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    MaratM got a reaction from DJ46 in Never ending build Lian Li pc-q37 htpc   
    The 8700k was showing its age, it is not a bad cpu, however it was time to upgrade, not like it was really needed but it was one of these things that can be done.
    Let the shopping begin! I bought a 13700k a fancy looking thermalright bracket and a EKWB backplate for the lga 1700 socket. (All of it was bought on amazon and shipped to Russia from the US, by means of forwarding company, the only reason for it was a very nice exchange rate in summer and the sanctions imposed on Russia, caused the prices on new CPU’s go through the roof)
    The motherboard of my choice was Biostar b660 itx. It is a nice liitle affordable board, I also decided to update my boot drive to Samsung 980pro. (Bought it on the Black Friday sale on amazon, however it took me 2 months to get it delivered)
    Also needed a waterblock for new motherboard. Second hand EK evo for a  third of the price sounds like a good deal for me)
    By the end of January I had it all on my table to start the assembly. Had a minor problem - MB needed a bios update to work with 13700k. Solved by borrowing a 12xxx series CPU from a local store. All is ready time to upgrade the “never-ending build”
     




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    MaratM got a reaction from DJ46 in Never ending build Lian Li pc-q37 htpc   
    Due to the fact that most fan noise is gone and 3080ti is more than capable to run most games in 4k. I connected my pc via my denon reciever. Finally I experienced how is to play games in dolby atmos!!!

     
     
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    MaratM got a reaction from DJ46 in Never ending build Lian Li pc-q37 htpc   
    The loud fans had to be dealt with. The solution had to be simple but effective. An external radiator. The idea was bigger is better.
    After a search on the second hand market I found a beast rad.
    EKWB CE 560 4x140mm 

    The fans were budget ones but good enough Arctic P14PWM


    The Base was painted matt black.
    and after a few weeks the rad was installed

    in order to control the fans an additional controller was bought
    Aquacomputer OCTO, Now I have 9 PWM fans

    Here is the results. The fan speed dropped down to 700-800 on the Noctuas and the Arctics are running at 600-700 RPM. It is near silent!!! The coolant temp dropped down by 6 degrees. this is after 45 minutes stress test.

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    MaratM got a reaction from Sir Beregond in My loop just broke down...   
    alcohol is a bad idea because if it get in contact with acrylic it causes micro cracks.
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    MaratM got a reaction from The meeks project in The Water Cooling Gallery   
    Finished the build
    Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic
    P6T with X5680 OC'd to 4,2 gHz (watercooled NB+SB+VRM)
    GTX 980ti
     








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    MaratM got a reaction from Renan003 in Building a custom water loop for my GPU with parts (almost) exclusively from Aliexpress   
    It is fine, aluminium is the handle, the body of the valve is bronze, bronze is copper alloy very simmilar to copper in it electrolitical/galvanic proprieties, so it does not make any difference if it is brass/copper/bronze as long as it is not aluminium
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    MaratM got a reaction from Renan003 in Building a custom water loop for my GPU with parts (almost) exclusively from Aliexpress   
    A drain valve will not do any harm, a couple 90 degrees and a couple 45 degrees fittings will be very handy. If you go with soft tubes you can always use a diluted antifreeze
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    MaratM got a reaction from Stahlmann in standard push VS. slim push/pull on radiators   
    I have both type of fans running on 2 gts rads. a12-25 are a lot better than their slim brothers) a12-25 are almost unaudible up to 1000rpm and can go up to 2000rpm. Even if the price of a12-25 is a bit high it is still cheapper than 2 slim noctua fans. 
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    MaratM got a reaction from geneticmaterial in GIGABYTE Radeon RX 6800 XT GAMING OC   
    I use a bykski block in one of my pc’s, it is fine, it works, probably a couple degrees warmer than the alphacool or ek one but it is not a problem, as long as it keeps my flashed and overclocked vega56 (nano pcb) under control
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    MaratM got a reaction from Tristerin in A NAS on the budget   
    All is done, remote access is set up, dlna and shared disks are all working, swapped 3 different lan cables before I found one which was working at 1gb)

    It is a remote access from my hackintosh.

    all the stickers removed

    almost final assembly (so I thought)
    However it is bloody noisy!!!
    It did not pass the WAF (wife approval facktor) The vibration from the hard drives is resonating with the case and the NAS is humming. Firstly I thought it was the psu fan. But after openong the lid and stopping all the fans I could hear the hard drived humming and vibrating.
    I’ll try to use a different mounting solution tomorrow.
    If it does not work it will go to a different place in my flat.
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    MaratM got a reaction from DJ46 in A NAS on the budget   
    All is done, remote access is set up, dlna and shared disks are all working, swapped 3 different lan cables before I found one which was working at 1gb)

    It is a remote access from my hackintosh.

    all the stickers removed

    almost final assembly (so I thought)
    However it is bloody noisy!!!
    It did not pass the WAF (wife approval facktor) The vibration from the hard drives is resonating with the case and the NAS is humming. Firstly I thought it was the psu fan. But after openong the lid and stopping all the fans I could hear the hard drived humming and vibrating.
    I’ll try to use a different mounting solution tomorrow.
    If it does not work it will go to a different place in my flat.
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    MaratM got a reaction from DJ46 in A NAS on the budget   
    I’ve managed to get dual chanel memory working with samsung sh!t dye!!! Plugged one stick, it works without problems, lower down dram speed tp pathetic 2400, save, reboot, swictch it off and install the second stick, and it worked all 16gb (a real overkill for a nas) but it worked.

    after that I installed the propper cooler. I originally planned to use liquid metal, but tried the thermalpaste, the temps were fine, around -5C idle and around -10C at load.
    cinebench r15 scored just above 900 points, plenty of performance for a NAS)))

    after that I installed the hard drives, but run into a small problem, the motherboard did not want to recognise the 50mm fans as 3pin, and I could not find the switch in bios to force it to 3 pin fans, so the fans (small and realativly quiet) run at full blast around 4000rpm, nometter how I set up the fan curve. Looks like the motherboard was using them as pwm fans and put constant 12v.
    So I installed an old fan controller

    after making my own sata to molex adapter and I got it all working and can control the fans with a small nob at the back of the rig
    I also had a spare temp display so it was installed too)

    it is showing the temp of the top 8tb hdd. Also I managed to get all the led and power button on the case working as it was designed. Except the fact the wires were too short and the connector was a propriatary acer made.
    unfortunatelly I did not have enough time to activate windows and set it up as a dlna/samba server with a remote access from other computer.
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    MaratM got a reaction from DJ46 in A NAS on the budget   
    Today I’ve got the ram, 4 sticks of samsung sh!t die, 2x4gb and 2x8gb.

    Tested all of them 4gb do not work with this CPU, 8 gb ones work, but only in single chanel in any of 2 slots. Very strange but it is not a gaming rig, It is a NAS and dual chanel does not make any difference. 8gb is enough. After that i installed windows and run a stress test. All the bios settings are on auto it boosts up to 2.9 ghz all core and 3.2 on a single core. With a stock intel cooler is stays at 38c idle and 52 under cpuZ stress test. According to cpuZ benchmark it is on par with 7700k.
    the plan for tomorrow is to install the big cooler with liquid metal (no real need for it) and assemble the rig. Install all the software and activate windows.
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    MaratM got a reaction from DJ46 in A NAS on the budget   
    The pinicle of chinese microelectronics has arrived from aliexpress.


    It was very well packed, the install was easy and straight forward

    all was left to go was to flash the custom bios. However using service connector on the motherboard the programming tool just could not recognise the bios chip.


     
    after trying to flash it a multiple times i gave up and went to the nearest laptop repair shop. The chip was unsoldered, flashed and soldered back. So I went back to my office and tried to fire it up. The cpu fan was spinning and that was it. No immage on the screen. For some unknown reason I tried to swap the “AMD” branded ram i bought for the NAS to Corsair RGB pro from my office watercooled beast, due to it being an open test bench it took 10 seconds and it worked!!! One stick, two sticks all detected and working!!!


    Here is a picture of AMD RAM!!

    The first fought was it is a double sided ram stick, and corsair is a single one. So I called the shop, and described the problem, (the funniest thing is that this AMD ram works without any problems my office rig) the ram is not defective, but some compatibility issue. The shop agreed to swap these two sticks to the single sided ones.
    so I walked to the shop (my car did not start this morning, it was a perfect day for subzero overclocking -35C, so i walked) got the sticks and the same thing happened it just does not boot. Called them back and asked to order some samsung oem green ram. It will be here on monday afternoon. If it works that will be the final stage of the build.
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    MaratM got a reaction from DJ46 in A NAS on the budget   
    here is some progress on the build
    I've dremmeled out original "IO shield"

    placed all of it inside it all fits

    still waiting for the chinese CPU
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    MaratM got a reaction from DJ46 in A NAS on the budget   
    The next thing was the cpu, mb and ram
    the choice of mother board was a bit tricky. I could of go for a soldered on cpu but I decided to go for the cheapest i could find
    Asrock H110M-DGS around $50

    some random ram 4gbX2 ($35)
    A 120gb WD ssd (i had one) as a bootdrive
    and a cpu
    the cpu of my first choice was a pentium for lga 1151 but the price for it new is around $85 new or around $50 for second hand. After some research I found out a crazy piece of chinese engeneering: it is a coffee lake mobile cpu soldered onto an lga 1151 adapter plate!!! It is called QNCT it costs around $75 shipped. And with some bios mods it can be installed into a lga 1151 motherboard.


    the specs of this cpu are almost identical to i7 8700T and tdp of 45watts!!!
    so it was ordered from aliexpress.
    The cooler is ID cooling IS-60. Stock 120mm fan will be changed to noctua slim 120mm. As the cpu does not have IHS it is asking to use liquid metal as TIM, so the cheapest nickel plated cooler was ordered.
    Meanwhile it was all mocked up and it all fits, exept the IO (will have to dremmel it out

    the 24 pin cable was a bit too short so i had to use an extension

    the top hard drive is a bit too close to the fan need some 90 degrees sata cables (have plenty)
    To be continued....
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    MaratM got a reaction from DJ46 in A NAS on the budget   
    So i unplugged the psu and pluged it into a psu tester. A very nice piece of chinese engeneering

    all voltages are correct
    lable on it said it is a 200w unit! Plenty for my needs (a few $ saved)

    The next challenge was to get as many hard drives as possible. The dvd rom was removed and a 2 3,5” drive cage almost fit without any problems but with some help from good old dremmel.


    so 3 dummy drives were installed
     
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    MaratM got a reaction from TheNaitsyrk in Cooling capacity on 480mm XE EKWB rad with 3000RPM fan   
    Unless you can create a constant and regulated thermal load on the Cooling system it is almost impossible. even if you do so you will have to eliminate one  of the 3 variables: Fan speed, DeltaT, Rad properties (fin area, density restriction and so on)
    I think it is all marketing BS. The difference between these 2 rads is minimal and the results published by the manufacturer is not good for fair comparison. 
    All I can really tell is my 240-60mm barrow rad can cool my overclocked flashed vega56 into 64 and 9400F which both produce up to 450 watts (according to HWinfo and GPUz) of heat with deltaT of around 15-16C and fan speed of 2000rpm on Noctua NFA12X25. Thus the reasonable figure is around 1000watts for a 480 "thick" rad.
    If deltaT is increased it can handle more, If fan speed increased it will handle even more.
    Here is some research made by Thermalbench.com both of them look more a less the same.
    http://thermalbench.com/2016/11/22/hardware-labs-black-ice-nemesis-gtr-480-radiator/5/
    http://thermalbench.com/2015/06/07/ek-coolstream-xe-480mm-radiator/5/
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    MaratM got a reaction from Deli in Cooling capacity on 480mm XE EKWB rad with 3000RPM fan   
    Unless you can create a constant and regulated thermal load on the Cooling system it is almost impossible. even if you do so you will have to eliminate one  of the 3 variables: Fan speed, DeltaT, Rad properties (fin area, density restriction and so on)
    I think it is all marketing BS. The difference between these 2 rads is minimal and the results published by the manufacturer is not good for fair comparison. 
    All I can really tell is my 240-60mm barrow rad can cool my overclocked flashed vega56 into 64 and 9400F which both produce up to 450 watts (according to HWinfo and GPUz) of heat with deltaT of around 15-16C and fan speed of 2000rpm on Noctua NFA12X25. Thus the reasonable figure is around 1000watts for a 480 "thick" rad.
    If deltaT is increased it can handle more, If fan speed increased it will handle even more.
    Here is some research made by Thermalbench.com both of them look more a less the same.
    http://thermalbench.com/2016/11/22/hardware-labs-black-ice-nemesis-gtr-480-radiator/5/
    http://thermalbench.com/2015/06/07/ek-coolstream-xe-480mm-radiator/5/
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    MaratM got a reaction from Lipe123 in Cooling your PC in a deep freezer   
    It is probably a better idea to travel up north Canada and freeze a PC in -35C))) as long as they use antifreeze as a coolant)
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    MaratM got a reaction from Demonic Donut in Why are CPUs so much hotter than GPUs under watercooling?   
    Zen2 Chiplet size is around 70mm and it produces around 100watts (estimated) of heat under full load. That means 1mm2 produces around 1.3 watts of heat
    on the other hand rtx3080 is around 600mm2 and produces 300watts that brings us to 0.5 watts per mm2. This is why gpu is usually colder than cpu under watercooler. 
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    MaratM got a reaction from Stahlmann in Why are CPUs so much hotter than GPUs under watercooling?   
    Zen2 Chiplet size is around 70mm and it produces around 100watts (estimated) of heat under full load. That means 1mm2 produces around 1.3 watts of heat
    on the other hand rtx3080 is around 600mm2 and produces 300watts that brings us to 0.5 watts per mm2. This is why gpu is usually colder than cpu under watercooler. 
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    MaratM got a reaction from Lipe123 in D5 Not Moving Water   
    once the pump is filled up with water you can mount it back there it was in the beginning 
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    MaratM got a reaction from AshRiver in Bent fin   
    Use a small flathead screwdriver to carefully bend them back, if you want for aesthetic reason. if it is just a couple fins do not wary it will not effect the performance 
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    MaratM got a reaction from IAmAndre in The Water Cooling Gallery   
    i5 9400f
    asus z170i pro gaming with a z270i waterblock
    Sapphire vega 56 pulse with Bykski waterblock
    16 GB Corsair vengeance RGB RAM
    A custom made aluminium copy of Motif Monument
    240 Barrow rad 60mm thick+2 noctua NF-A12x25
    Soft tubing
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