KhakiHat

13 minutes ago, Loue said:

So i just bought second hand gpu its normal for 1 day. But today it suddenly have black screen after i leave it on for few hour to test it. 

 

Ryzen 7 5700x

Asrock b550 pro 4

Zadak twist 3200 32gb

Teamgroup mp33 1 tb 3x4 ssd

Psu msi a550bn 550w

Used rtx 3060 evga

 

Could it be its a bad gpu? Or other part? Other part are brand new

 

And when i turn on the computer, i can still hear windows 11 startup sound. 

 

If you still have an older gpu, I would try maybe tossing that gpu back in to see if it operates as it would normally.

7 minutes ago, Alpha52 said:

Motherboard: Aorus Z790 Elite Ax

CPU: Intel 13900k

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 2x32gb

GPU: ASUS 4080

PSU: Corsair RM1000x

Case: Corsair 4000D

 

So here's the deal. Built the entire computer, turning on no boot. When I flip the PSU power switch, the 4 red LEDs on the MB blink quickly then go black. No illumination of the status LED.

Pressing the power button either on the case of MB results in a small "click" in the PSU and nothing more.

Pulled the PSU and tested all voltages with a multimeter. PSU is fine.

Tried pulling components until I was down to just the MB with the 24pin and 2x8pins connected. Same results. Even pulled the MB and PSU completely out of the case. Same results.

Got a replacement for the exact same MB thinking something was wrong there since the PSU seemed fine. Same result with the new MB.

Hooked the new MB and system up to an old, known working Corsair HX850i PSU. Same exact result as . Hooking that PSU back to a known working system, it works fine still.

 

What in the world is my next step? I already ordered another PSU thinking if it wasn't the MB, it must be the PSU. But that was before I tested with the HX850i and it did the same thing.

Did something fry both the MBs? The one thing I haven't tried is hooking the RM1000x to my old system that's running off the HX850i, but I'm afraid if the RM1000x is frying the new MB, I'll end up damaging my old rig.

 

Thanks in advance.

Sounds dumb but is anything shorting the rig? Are there any standoffs still installed that aren't being using?(Like underneath the motherboard)

Another somewhat dumb question, are all the i/o connectors configured correctly? Like power button, reset switch, etc.? Have you tried booting the rig just by shorting the power button connector port with a paperclip or something(to rule out a power button issue but also don't do this unless you know what I mean)

Have you tried re-seating everything? CPU, RAM, etc.?

On 7/14/2023 at 8:07 AM, frederikas said:

Sorry to revive an "old" thread, but did you ever figure out what was wrong?
Im having a problem which looks to be the same

Late but I found this video.

Another thing to add, I'm hosting the server itself on a windows OS based machine. Not sure what type of OS you're hosting on and if that would change the outcome at all based on the video help.

After setting up a router with OPNsense and then digging deep on how to port-forward successfully(for someone who knows very little about port-forwarding), I seem to have found a new problem.

Maybe a problem of my firewall within OPNsense, or within my operating system itself (All of my settings within OPNsense are 99% default, outside of port-forwarding).

A somewhat random occurrence, if I host a Minecraft server from my main rig, port-forwarded through my now OPNsense router build, I have no problems with my gaming PC/hosting machine, the problem arises when I attempt to play Minecraft at the same time as trying to host the server. Almost immediately after logging on, my internet connection drops. Requiring my to do a full restart of my PC before the ethernet driver and can be turned off and turned back on within Device Manager. I attempt to do a regular restart, my PC will crash for whatever reason is likely causing the ethernet problem to begin with. Also if I attempt to disable and re-enable the driver for ethernet, Device Manager will crash.

My PC is completely up-to-date from what I can tell, ASUS ez update claims I have no pending updates, as well as Windows not needing any updates.

Not sure really where to go from here. My PC rig isn't really lacking anything as far as my hardware, and I have a 1200MB/s internet connection.

For reference, I have a ASUS ROG Strix Z690-E GAMING motherboard, 32GB DDR5 CORSAIR Dominator Platinum RGB @ 5600MHz RAM, and an Intel i7-12700k @ 3.6 GHz. Which in my opinion should likely be well over the requirements for hosting and playing a Minecraft at the same time.

Any suggestions? Any driver updates I'm unaware of? Ways to search that aren't obvious?

I'm all ears.

I've been trying to figure out port-forwarding for a simple minecraft server all morning, my head is spinning lol.

I used these guides below but found no luck. Port-forwarding is likely out of my frame of understanding but I would still like to regardless.

https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?topic=8783.0

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https://www.wundertech.net/how-to-port-forward-in-opnsense/

Here is what I've attempted so far.

I added a forwarded port and NAT rule for the port I was going to use. Traditionally minecraft servers are on port 25565, but a guide above was using port 3200-3100 for theirs, so I figured it couldn't hurt while trying to figure it out.

I also added an alias to set up this port.

Lastly, I changed some port settings in Firewall: Settings: Advanced to allow the reflection of port forwards, and I enabled automatic outbound NAT for reflection.

Anyone have any thoughts?

17 minutes ago, Assimov said:

it's probably advisable to configure a DMZ for the machines running the minecraft servers so it's a seperate network and your normal local network can stay behind the firewall without open ports.

I'm sure there are people here who can give better advice on the matter.

sadly, port forwarding can be an attack vector for potential bad actors if it's not configured properly afaik.
https://superuser.com/questions/561140/how-safe-is-port-forwarding-in-general

I'll give that a read.

7 minutes ago, WolfBagle said:

so im building my first computer ever and it won't post. I am useing a ryzen 7600(non-X) in a asus TUF B650m-plus WIFI and a kit of kingston fury beast 2x8 5200MT/s DDR5 CL36. but after i install everything in the board and turn it on the fan will spin, but the light on the motherboard for DRAM will ligth up and stay that way and the fans will run and the pc will act like it's working but it will not post. i have tryed receading the ram and the cpu but nothing will change. Any help is great

You could try booting with one stick of RAM just to maybe see if one of them maybe is faulty. Make sure if you have several slots that you are also putting them into the correct slots. ex. A1 A2 B1 B2, etc.

edit: is your GPU plugged in? both on the motherboard(obviously) and if it need additional power from the power supply?

(I'm not very quick at responding but I appreciate any insight, gotta work ya know)

*I'm in the assumption it isn't by default at the very least*

For some friends and myself, I port-forwarded a few ports so that I could host a few minecraft servers.

Outside of the general reserved ports, is there any other major security concerns I should be worrying about while just having ports somewhat open for a minecraft server of all things?

I noticed in my router logs that there has been numerous port-scans on my ip, but again assuming, I would guess that happens to everyone's ip at purely randomly moments regardless of a port being forwarded.

Any huge security concerns I should consider? And if so, ways of maybe not eliminating the security concerns but reducing it?(All while keeping the minecraft server up?)

Thanks in advance

On 3/14/2023 at 3:03 AM, LIGISTX said:

Sell this… and buy something more efficient/use an older system. That CPU is genuinely to valuable to someone who would actually have a good use for it vs it sitting around doing nothing, or doing pfsense, which needs an i3 from the 3000 generation which would be overkill. 
 

Seriously, pfsense appliances directly from netgate (sg-1100) run on little arm CPU’s with 1 GB of RAM. You’d honestly be better off getting that sg-1100 and selling the 9600 (or using it for a much more involved server) then relegating it to be a router.

 

Also, pfsense is not meant to be a switch. Don’t add a NIC to it to get more ports like a switch would provide… have a single WAN and a single LAN, then buy switches to act as switches. You can bind interfaces in pfsense, but that isn’t really “the intended” way to do things.

 

You can use multiple WAN’s for HA/failover if you actually have two ISP’s, and you can use multiple LAN ports of each one is it’s own subnet, or at least it’s own trunk of subnets. So if anyone points this out or you come across this as you research… yes those are standard practice. But for a flat home network with a single subnet, don’t use pfsense as a switch, just get physical switches to act as switches. 

A genuine part of me wants to keep the parts for a general game hosting server, previously I was running a few VMs on the machine with the same hardware and a bunch of extra DDR4 RAM I had laying around since upgrading my main rig to DDR5.

edit: I just didn't wanna go and buy more hardware to end up not liking pfsense/opnsense, so I figured this was a nice balance as I also have multiple storage drives to mess around with. I literally just installed an M.2 for opnsense and unplugged my SSD's from the previous system config to give opnsense a try.

I didn't plan on going too crazy with the setup of pfsense/opnsense(still on undecided on which I will use, rn I'm opting for opnsense). For obvious reasons, this machine would lack all power efficiency, I planned on using a meter I have around to see how much power it is actually consuming. I could probably even go into the BIOS and undervolt it so that it isn't sucking as much power. I already bought a small network switch to use for wired devices. The only addition ports I purchases was a small, old intel networking card off of amazon for the sole purpose of setting up WAN but also to connect the network switch. So I have 3 ethernet ports on the router build, the extra port was in case the main motherboard port didn't want to be recognized.

I only planned on using one WAN config, so this opnsense machine would replace my current router(Netgear Nighthawk XR1000). The current router would just be turned into a crappy access point for some of the devices that I have that aren't able to use ethernet. I did read that the switching capabilities were there with pfsense, just to avoid them because software switches are way slower than physical switches.

So, I have an old PC and a lousy router. A good combo for potentially better internet speeds I hear.

PC specs:

• i5-9600k
• ASRock Z390M Pro4 LGA 1151 (300 series) Intel Z390
• Lots of extra DDR4 RAM around
• A few extra SSDs

While I would still need a router for at least an access point, I may just use my existing router until I buy something new for a WiFi signal.

The main question then is whether this hardware would be sufficient enough to run pfsense. Not necessarily spec wise but whether it is compatible or not. I would plan on getting some sort of Intel networking card for more ethernet ports but until then, I'd really just like a connection that doesn't give out as much.

Any thoughts? I am open to literally all options.

2 minutes ago, turismotom100000 said:

Same gen

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-11900-vs-Intel-Core-i7-11700F/m1515871vsm1522100

Here is a small benchmark on the two compared. It seems like a sort of upgrade that would increase the lifetime of the PC but even now is only better by like 10% percent or so. Maybe something like rendering would show a benefit, but upgrading purely to play games or browse the internet likely wouldn't show a huge bump(of course there would be a small bump in performance but justifying it for the price seems unlikely).

What GPU is it?

Is the GPU being overclocked in any sort of way? Even if it is a stock OC? Does the GPU require extra power from the PSU or is it powered directly through the motherboard?

1 minute ago, turismotom100000 said:

I7 11700f or i9 upgrade 

Do you mean the i9 in the same generation or of the current? What i9 specifically?

45 minutes ago, amacilravie said:

There is not. I just have a windows 11 usb, but its not letting me install without a storage device

I would try to reset your BIOS back to default settings, you can typically do that either through the BIOS itself, or simply by removing the CMOS battery(if you have any intention removing any of the hardware, ensure that the machine is completely off and unplugged from a power source) and post without it present. After a post without the CMOS battery, turn the machine back off. Make sure everything is unplugged, then re-insert the CMOS battery. At this point, through either method, the BIOS should be back at it's original, default settings.

On random occasions I will sometimes not be able to use my M.2 for seemingly random reasons(usually due to a BIOS settings change). In your case, it could be that the M.2 is incorrectly installed. Firstly, with the PC unplugged, check to see if the M.2 is properly installed. Assuming it is at this point, refer to your motherboard manual to see which M.2 slot a M.2 drive should be installed in. When building my PC for example, the top slot caused the M.2 to not show in BIOS even though it would seem like the correct slot for installation. After moving it to the second slot(after reviewing the motherboard manual to reveal that was the correct slot for installation) the M.2 was then detectable by the BIOS.

This could be a simple place to start before messing with your BIOS settings.

Is there an OS install on either of the storage medias?

Is the piece still connected on all of it's visible connection points? You could also try to power it on by shorting the power pins. Just with the motherboard plugged in, no CPU, GPU, RAM, etc. While obviously it won't turn on, or a light up a monitor, some of the LED's on the motherboard might show signs of some life.

On 12/25/2022 at 2:15 AM, That_PC_Kid said:

@KhakiHat I tried doing it without any drives installed and it still is stuck in boot loop. I noticed that there are red lights on the motherboard that show CPU and DRAM. I assume that’s what’s causing the PC not to post. Most likely the CPU but who knows at this point. Probably just gonna replace the CPU and return the AIO as I have another cooler that I found. If that isn’t it then I’ll try a new PSU. The endless cycle of troubleshooting is annoying.

A little late, but have you maybe checked your GPU? Maybe it isn't locked in properly or just needs to be wiggled a tad more into place.

Sounds simple but it could do a lot if that's actually the problem.

Just now, AustinLee1423 said:

It doesn’t Display On Monitor Screen And everything is hooked up correctly can a 650 Watt PSU operate all these components 

I understand stand that nothing displays on the screen, but does the screen illuminate when the PC is turned on even if the screen is just all black or is does the screen remain off?

A 650w PSU is probably pushing it power wise considering you have an i7 and a 3070.

1 minute ago, That_PC_Kid said:

I forgot to mention that I did clear the CMOS by jumping it. I will try to boot it without any storage installed. It’s just so weird since it worked and then I had and update and bam it stopped.

I've had windows updates break my installs plenty of times. Nothing you can do to avoid it besides keeping updated backups

Make sure everything is plugged in properly.

Try and boot to the BIOS without a storage media installed, that way it doesn't have to try and boot anything.

After you remove any storage media, you could also remove the CMOS battery as it will reset your BIOS. Try and boot with the CMOS battery uninstalled to fully reset any settings within the BIOS.

EDIT: If you are able to boot to BIOS after removing the storage media, then chances are you have a bad install of windows which can either be repaired or reinstalled. I personally would recommend a reinstall if that is the case.

Definitely don't overclock your CPU

Make sure the driver for your integrated GPU is uninstalled(there are a lot of different ways to do that), or perhaps check the device manager and see if the 4090 comes up as a hardware connected

Edit: Are all of the power cables fastened properly for your GPU?

When the pc turns on but doesn't boot, does it turn on your display or does the screen it is connected to also not turn on at all?

Is anything overclocked? 

You could also try to make sure that everything is completely plugged in or that everything that needs a satisfying little click has actually been clicked into place.

What speed is your RAM operating at? Sometimes if it is set too high, it can throw a PC for loop and not boot properly.

What are your PC specs?

What is your refresh rate for your display?