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I did a quick check for Artic coolers but didn’t see anything promising. I did the jank solution passive air cooler on my old GT430 I use in my garage computer and had to put 90mm fans on it to keep it stable but in a garage that’s fine. This is my main desktop so noise is a factor. I already cranked the fan curve for the stock settings and it’s a mite annoying but tolerable. Thanks for the tip on the EVGA SC cooler. Good point on it potentially being cheaper to just go with a different card vs. a cooler at this point. I’ll have to see what a 1080 Ti is running these days vs. say a 2070…. Hmmm. I could cycle the GTX1070 down into my garage computer as well though that’s extreme overkill for an undervolted Sandy Bridge system Thanks y’all

Howdy folks, I’m still happy with my GTX1070’s performance seeing as I’m using 60Hz capped monitors but I think I’m going to try overclocking it to keep it at maximum for newer games than Subnautica… Since I’m still on the FE cooler, I think I need to change that out to support the OC. What’s the best cooler for this? eBay used is fine if that’s what it takes to support an older Pascal card. Thanks

Watching the market and I'm starting to think that getting a 1080 Ti or a Titan XP might fit my needs a bit better than a 2080 Ti as the only reason to go all the way up to a 2080 Ti is the memory quantity over something like a 2070 or 2070 Ti for just performance. Price difference between a 1080 Ti or even the Titan XP and a 2080 Ti at average eBay sold prices would cover upgrading the system RAM from 16Gb to 64Gb. How much longer is the 1080 Ti going to be supported for drivers and such? Seems plenty new enough to keep lasting for another 6yrs or so.

Sticking with the Thinkpad is the direction we were leaning but not having bought a non-"gaming" laptop in 7yrs I wanted to make sure some new model line from another vendor like the Dell Latitude hadn't overtaken it as a better performer. Thanks

Howdy, My wife's now almost 7yr old Thinkpad T405S just stopped powering on this morning so it's time for a new laptop. Fortunately there are is only a month left in this school year so she can get by without one for a bit if we need to back order one. Her requirements are pretty much the same but preferably a bigger screen. The obvious is just another Thinkpad T-series with the 15.6in screen but what competitors out there are worth looking at for a similar sized laptop/ultrabook? 15+in IPS screen, color quality over refresh rate as she doesn't game at all but does do digital art i5 class CPU, she has an i3 netbook that's her backup and hates it Durable, not a Toughbook type thing but something that'll survive in and out of a bag multiple times per day as she moves classrooms and works at home DVD player would be nice to show stuff off of a disc where there's no wifi Decent webcam and speakers Thanks

Crickets... Crickets... Hardware Unboxed seems to recommend the MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD at $425 over the ASUS TUF VG27AQ at $330 though rtings.com pretty much says they are equal except in 60Hz gaming where the MSI pulls ahead noticeably. My current hardware is sitting far closer to the 60Hz level than the 165Hz full tilt but the price difference on a pair is enough to get me ~1/3 of the way to a 2080 ti which would address some of that. Secondary market isn't really worth it as most of the VG27AQs are $280-300 which isn't enough of a savings to chance on. I'm surprised with how common the VG27AQ seems to be based on secondary market availability and the request hype for Hardware Unboxed and similar channels (including LTT) that there's not more reviews forthcoming from this community. Thanks

Howdy Folks, I think my GTX 1070 FE is finally starting to impact my gaming, more so since a 144Hz+ monitor upgrade is a near term priority. Since I do CAD and soon GPU accelerated code work as I start my PhD, I'm leaning towards a 2080 Ti as it has more memory without getting into the crazy cost land of a Titan V or RTX. I'm sure I'm just piling onto the endless stream of "should I wait for..." but playing it a bit differently with looking for when the secondary market will get near enough to bottom on the type of hardware I'm looking for vs. should I hold out till the next launch. While I think the 40XX launch will be smoother all round due to everyone learning from the 30XX launches, I don't want to ride that too tightly and get hit with a 6-8mth spike of prices while supplies flatten out again. General Thoughts?

Howdy, Been planning on going to twin ASUS VG27AQs for awhile now and with needing a new desk its time to pull the trigger on that idea but time has moved on since those monitors came out. They're still sitting at a really nice price point ($362 each on Amazon, ~$300 second hand) but have they been overtaken if I'm looking to spend only around ~$800 on a new pair? MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD? Been going through rtings.com and Hardware Unboxed and it's difficult to sift through the data on what's important. Here's my use case: Immersive games like Subnautica, Long Dark, etc. but looking to add flight simulators to that as my kids get more into airplanes Primary display for stuff like streaming videos and YouTube Lots of Data manipulation as I start my PhD and will be doing some art type work making images to support my research Right now computer hardware I have will support 80+ fps on Subnautica and Long Dark but is getting challenged as newer games in that vein pop up and I know Microsoft Flight Sim will be forcing an upgrade driving the frame rate up even more I'm sure. I'm running display port on a 8600K + GTX 1070 FE but will likely be going to a 9700K + 2080 Ti sometime soon. Recommendations welcome!

Just a smidge more expensive. Good call on the grinding through there's still the CPU cooler and power supply that will have to contend with that.

Howdy folks, So my GT 430 in my garage Sandy Bridge system is on it's last legs as driver support is gone and I've been nursing it along with an Arctic passive cooler and 90mm fans hardwired on now for years. Unfortunately, there's no iGPU on the P67 board I'm running. I think it's time to get something else in there and my old GTX 260 Core 216 is not the man for the job on an 450W SFX power supply. The system just opens webpages for reference materials and streams YouTube so might even be overkill. In the pre-GPU panic I'd just have grabbed a GTX 750Ti but that's starting to get both long in the tooth and they're running around $65-80 which I guess isn't bad. Is there something else I should be looking for instead?

Sounds like just going to a 4x16Gb and a 9700K is the way to then. 32Gb non-ECC DIMMs are not easy to find to go 2x32Gb. I guess ECC might be the only shining reason to go X#99.

Howdy, Heading back to grad school in the fall and that means needing to amp up the Matlab and SolidWorks capacity on my home machine. If I'm shooting for 64Gb of RAM, is my current Z370 (or upgrade to Z390) running a 4x16Gb in dual channel giving up much on an X#99 system running in quad (or an 8x8Gb)? Thanks

What version SolidWorks (SW) are you using? There's a pretty big jump with SW20 in GPU utilization before that the Quadro really just enabled RealView graphics and allows you to run the rendering engine (which doesn't use the GPU oddly enough). My P4000 handles my big models way better than my GTX1070 does.

For the non-XOC real world, is there a need to go past 18-18 on the timings for 3200-3600 DDR4?

Howdy folks, Potentially going back to grad school and with the supply chain bottlenecks still raging I think I'd be better served by upgrading my current baseline hardware to better handle an increase in utilization. Use case is I'll be doing an engineering PhD and a fair amount of computational workloads in Matlab including very large data sets (images) running through post processing transforms. I still will be running SolidWorks with big to large sized models as well. Finally, yes I still game but we're talking stuff that's circa three years ago (i.e. on sale on Steam for $12) and I'm more of an RTS/TBS and survival game person than shooters or e-sports. Stuff like Subnautica, The Long Dark, Iron Harvest, and Battletech (with Battletech Advanced). Current System: ASRock Z370 Extreme4 i5-8600K Noctua NH-U14S 16Gb DDR4-3200-16 (-16-16-38?) (2x8Gb) Samsung 512Gb 970 Evo M.2 Boot 256Gb 960 Evo "Data Drive" 3Tb Seagate network backup drive for my home systems 2x Random recycled drives as archive and backup drives for cameras, phones, etc. GTX-1070 FE on second round of repasting and more aggressive fan curve 2010 vintage CoolerMaster ATX mid tower case NF-A12x15 PWM fans in a front and rear inlet then top exhaust configuration since the tower is inside of a desk cabinet with an open top slot to keep the cats away from it EVGA Supernova 650 G2 The MB and storage is pretty much fixed unless it turns out I need more storage capacity in which case I'll just get an other M.2 drive and consolidate other drives down. I plan on keeping the case unless I need more headroom as that NH-U14S is practically against the side panel already so more cooling probably means a different case as there is no room for an internal radiator or taller air cooler. GPU is probably not worth messing with and the most screwed up piece of the supply currently so I'll just wait as I don't think MatLab is GPU accelerated for what I'm doing. I think 64Gb of memory (max the board will support) is a given though I'm wondering if it's worth getting tighter than 18 primary timings at 3200+? The big question is CPU. Obviously an i7-8700K is a drop in upgrade but also about the smallest one. An i7-9700K sounds like a better idea since while its not hyperthreaded MatLab doesn't really used hyperthreads anyway. The 9900K just sounds like more that I need and would probably push the cooling past where the NH-U14S can handle even with a second fan. Thoughts?

How does this one stack up in general: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012015?Item=N82E16824012015 That's probably about my budget.

Sorry for the absence. Not sure what my budget is as the lack of ~24in screens makes this a bit harder to specific what I want. Right now I'm running a pair of U2410's that work great for everything but being limited to 60Hz for gaming. One of them is starting to get LCD bleed through so was thinking I would just replace it with a higher refresh rate 24in panel keeping the 1440p resolution. Now that I'd be running unequal sized monitors that makes me reconsider how I want to redo things and yes I do want to keep a pair of monitors as I like the physical divide better than side by side on a single screen. Ideally I'd get a cheaper second hand matched pair but not quite so sure anymore. Might have to consider getting a primary creative screen and a second faster gaming screen. The monitor(s) double as the DVD player display so a good viewing angle is needed and one of the bigger reasons I am shying away from TN panels like the Dell S series. Thanks

Folks, I can't seem to find a high refresh 1440p (QHD/2K) IPS monitor floating around on the secondary market. Seems like everything out there is a TN panel. Did IPS in those refresh rates not come out till fairly recently so nothing is really floating around yet? Thanks

Howdy folks, I've been watching the reaction to the NVidia 30 series and the shock that the AMD 6000 series gave when they were announced yesterday mainly with looking how it affects the second hand market as I'm not a cutting edge gamer and I use SolidWorks 2016 on an infrequent basis. While I was able to drop my thermals on my 1070 FE by redoing the paste to keep it from going into thermal throttling in my current selection of games, the newer stuff I'm interested in has finally walked the recommended settings to just past the 1070. This has me interested in getting a Titan XP or Xp as it has enabled SolidWorks driver optimization, pushing it past the 2080 Ti in SpecViewPerf SolidWorks, and is not that far behind the in gaming while averaging around $200 cheaper. The main question is to hold out for a Titan Xp in my price range ($450-500) or capitalize on the older XP being around $100-150 cheaper? The benchmarks with my i5-8600K put the Xp only ~4% ahead of the XP though the uplift is a bit more with SolidWorks. Thoughts?

Don’t know if you bought the M4000 yet but I poked around for the first time on Facebook Marketplace and noticed there is someone selling a pair of Quadro RTX 4000s for $400 each. I seriously thought about it but looking into the performance the fact it’s a single slot design makes it run obscenely hot for gaming which is probably 60% of my usage of a card. However wouldn’t be a bad one for your friend if it’s in the budget.

I'm coming around to your way of thinking reading how the EVGA AIOs are produced in batch lots so a Pascal block/pump would be out of support now and AIOs do wear out. That sounds like a decent system considering the improvement in architecture in CPUs, don't run CAM so don't know how that scales but then again stuff like that tends to be time in the background while it paths the tool and generates the G-code. That RAM ought to handle the fun. Had an M4000 before the P4000 and it was good till I went crazy with trying to make stuff look real and add 100's of fasteners to an assembly.

Here's a slightly updated look at how the RTX Quadros helped with SW19+ https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/SOLIDWORKS-2019-Quadro-RTX-Series-in-Enhanced-Graphics-Performance-Mode-1385/ Looking over the available stuff I couldn't find a direct comparison with between Pascal and Turing performance with SW19+. I emailed Puget asking if they had some data on that comparison for the Quadros. I did find some data on how the 2080 Ti,Titan Xp, and Quadros did and SolidWorks doesn't appear to be one of the applications where NVidia pushed Quadro driver stuff into the Titan line though it does do better than the 2080 Ti according to the GN/TechGage review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKBLrkZtIVk), just slighly behind the P4000. It looks like a used Titan Xp (or if cheap enough an X Pascal) wouldn't be a bad compromise card for me since a Titan V or an RTX Quadro are out of my reach and the lower SKU RTX Quadros would likely be worse for gaming than my current 1070.

What version of SolidWorks are they going to be running? Up to SW19 that advice was spot on about a higher clock, lower core count CPU and the GPU only coming into play if you were running the RealView Graphics option to a limited effect. I went in with a registry editor and added the 1070 to the list and got RealView working on it but you can’t do a optics path render like you can on a Quadro. That changed with SW19, at work where I have a Xeon and Quadro system I’ll routinely peg the GPU (P4000) just rotating a large model in the interface. Now I’m still running SW16 at home but in this era of the Coof and telecommuting, I’m considering moving that license to my personal desktop since the work laptop has a K2000M (unrefreshed Kepler) and it’s struggling. The RAM is also a “more the merrier” depending on how large of an assembly they’ll be working on. Mine has 16Gb and hasn’t missed a beat on lets say “hobbyist” level models and assemblies. We’ll find out if that’s enough if I pull the SW20 license home and start working on the work stuff.

I looked up the part number and that’s a Titan X (Pascal) vs. the Titan Xp. Probably a minor thing for my applications as well. However, is the answer really just RTX 3070? It’s got a price point right at the same neighborhood as the rest of these cards.

I think that one is running on the lower end of Titan Xp prices, potentially due to the cooler. I agree that the AIO cooler have a slightly shorter lifespan but based on some of the reviews about how hard the Titan chokes on it's own cooling solution it seems like a worthwhile upgrade. This also seems like it was done with a kit vs. a kludge on a CPU block.