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I thought the entire point of GPP was to lock away all "gaming" branding from AMD and make it Nvidia exclusive. Ie, doesn't matter if they call it "ROG Strix Aurous Gaming+" or create a new "My Little Radeon Gaming" brand. If they put the word "gaming" on an RTG product then they get sent to Nvidia's gulag in Siberia.

"By 2020, current cost trends will lead to an average cost of between $15 billion and $20 billion for a leading-edge fab, according to the report. By 2016, the minimum capital expenditure budget needed to justify the building of a new fab will range from $8 billion to $10 billion for logic, $3.5 billion to $4.5 billion for DRAM and $6 billion to $7 billion for NAND flash, according to the report." ~ https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1264577 Standard economics doesn't really apply to building things that only a few entities in the entire world can afford.

Bitmain is publicly releasing their Eth ASIC shortly and they are not memory bound. If you have been following the difficulty rate you will also know they have been using them in house for quite a few months now. My GPUs have joined their respective CPUs in being pointed at Seti@Home for over a month now.

Depending on your project, you might have some other computing measurements available that include combined CPU/GPU power. Ie, for Seti@Home each host has its own information page like the following: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8411878 https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8433580

I ran it for about 8 hours. Was going to leave it running over night except it wasn't even attempting to use the Vega 64 LC so it would have been a waste. Edit: maybe it didn't like being in a mixed Radeon/Nvidia compute box.

I have installed Folding@Home on that box - just letting it run for a day or so to get some accuracy. Edit: Results below. Man - I thought S@H was clunky, but F@H made it look advanced. It failed to use the Vega 64 LC at all and it doesn't seem to be able to properly utilise the Titan V either.

Thanks for that. It took a day of messing around with the app_config file but I found I could throw 3 work units at each card (Titan V and Vega 64 LC) simultaneously without major penalty per work unit. I don't even think this is pushing the Titan V but I will wait till I can isolate this card in a single GPU system before trying to push it to its limits. This will greatly increase throughput.

If you microwave your CPU on high for 5 minutes, it will be completely immune to all hacking.

It is your gear. But mining is tanking right now and a lot of the miners here used to run Boinc before the boom. Some might go back to Boinc as things swing downwards. Hardware-wise you are surrounded by the most promising recruiting targets you could hope for.

Just got a Titan ▼ in for my Seti box (Chibineko in sig) to replace one of the Vega 64 LC's which has gone to GPU Valhalla. Currently running the Titan ▼ at stock and the remaining Vega 64 LC at a memory only OC of 1020MHz. Using standard Boinc client but not in screensaver mode of course. Boinc uses 6 of the 1700X's 8 cores, so no GPU starving. The Vega 64 LC's have been averaging 5-7 minutes per work unit and the new Titan ▼ is sitting at around 20 minutes per work unit. Rather underwhelming. A quick screenshot example is below. Currently this card is severely under-utilised by Seti@Home. Just a heads up.

Boinc active users (all projects) have taken a massive hit over the past year and a bit. Currently there are only 176,674 active users across all projects. They aren't going out of their way to advertise the losses but you can throw the following URL ( https://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/project/detail ) into the Wayback Machine ( https://archive.org/web/web.php ) and see the historical active user data. Back in June 2016 the active users were 437,284 users and it had been growing till that point. You can also throw your own projects page into the Wayback Machine to see how it is faring. Ie, I do Seti@Home work units so the current project page ( https://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/project/detail ) lists 103,019 current active users. Put that URL into the Wayback Machine and back in June 2016 the active user base was 140,858. This is quite a substantial decline, but your preferred projects may have fared better or worse. Might be time for us to reach out to folks who have spare CPU threads going unused since not many people have spare GPU capacity these days.

Depending on the type of GPU in use, I have seen each GPU utilise between 0.2 to 0.33 CPU threads on Seti@Home (so likely similar for folding). That is why you never let the Boinc client saturate your CPU or or you will starve out your GPUs. If you haven't gimped out a mining rig with the weakest possible CPU then there shouldn't be much of an issue. But having said that, it isn't unusual in mining rig building to do exactly that.

You obviously have an attitude issue with mining and this is blinding you to how similar both hobbies are from a technical perspective. It has been mining resources that have given me the information on how to best setup my particular GPUs for maximum efficiency, not Boinc resources. Yet it is Seti@Home that has predominately benefited from it. And, many of the people on my Seti team are currently off mining at present. They tend to return when the crypto market tanks but I doubt they would if I treated them with contempt or hostility. Lastly - because of all the Boinc users mining right now, if you did have a Boinc-only section then at present all it would consist of is a couple of posts a week asking if anyone else is still doing it. "Helloooooooooo...." *echo* *echo* *echo*

As soon as ASICs are built in number to mine a particular coin's algorithm, GPU mining of that coin becomes unfeasible. In Bitcoin ASIC usage is so entrenched that even older tech ASICs can't compete with later generation ones. Some alt coins are specifically designed to be ASIC resistant, like Eth for instance. This is why they are a popular choice amongst GPU miners.

A USB bitcoin miner is like a 80 buck Powerball ticket. Set it to mine solo and forget about it. The odds for Powerball are likely better tho.

Technically they are quite similar and not diametrically opposed. They are both distributed computing, both leverage GPU's, both rigs have to be built for 24/7 operation, both take large amount of resources. Also, many Boinc compute enthusiasts also mine to varying degrees (myself included). What separates them is ideology. One is perceived to be for a good cause and the other is perceived as being bad. This is a technical forum though, and ideology is best left at the door.

Seti@home. I leave it running 24/7 on 75% of all CPUs on all computers, and let it use GPUs for about 3 weeks of each month. Will GPU mine Eth for the other week per month to offset electricity usage. Seti is borking fairly regularly these days and having recurring work unit distribution issues, so sometimes have to switch back to mining when there are no work units available.

The toxic professionally outraged demographic latched onto Linus mixing the terms "tampon" and "pad". Not joking. This is the 4th wave in 2018.

Not folding, but I am still running Seti@Home. I run mining for the first 7 days of each month to pay for electricity and then do Seti work units for the rest of the month. When the GPU's are mining, the CPUs are still doing Seti also.

Now is the worst possible time to be buying GPUs. There is market hysteria and subsequently the retailers are gouging and the scalpers are circling. Plus consumer Volta with drastically increased efficiency will shortly be here. Once they hit the pools in large numbers, a lot of cards now commonly used for mining will no longer be viable. My next GPU purchases will be Volta based (whenever that is) and any money I make in the meantime will be saved for that purpose.

Electrician is what you will need (not the power company). This is beyond the scope of internet advice, especially as international users will have experience with markedly different voltages/currents/conventions/codes.

Still single mining Eth to hold for the long game. There are ups and downs but I don't want to fragment efforts over a multitude of wallets and get hit with fees trying to convert/consolidate it all. Currently just using 3x Radeon V64 LC's till some rad screws arrive for the newest build and I can get the cooling down pat on it.

EA and Ubisoft. Don't buy, not even once.

Well, just logged into Nicehash, the balance isn't restored and withdrawals are disabled, so I am not eating my left nut just yet.

Nicehash is giving people their money back? Ugh. I have been telling people I would eat my left nut if they saw any of that money back... Doh.