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Hello all! I have a Fractal Design Meshify C Mini with a front 280mm radiator. Well when I am not using it, I have folding@home running making the whole system hit peak temperatures of about 60C for CPU and 78C for GPU. Since I am doing this pretty consistently to my computer, I was thinking about adding a side fan to my case to blow fresh air for the GPU. I care much more about performance than looks so keeping the GPU fed with fresh air would be nice. That biggest reason for even considering this is because since I have a front radiator, I know I am pushing potentially 60C air into the case, which then only leaves a potential 18C delta over ambiant which the GPU is operating at. So on that note my request for help. Does anyone know what would be the best way to going about cutting out a slot for a fan or how the cuts would be? I am completely clueless as to the subject so any help is greatly appreciated.

Yeah, I'm sure Intel is frantically working towards trying to beat the same rumors I have posted, but I don't think I'll be able to wait longer than when Zen 2 comes out before I want to upgrade my CPU/MB.

Hey guys! So when I first got my 6600k, I told myself I would upgrade 3 generations later to an i7 and started saving for it. Well then AMD had to come in and upset the market with its new Ryzen processors and suddenly my plans had to change. The current rumor is that the Zen 2 will have a 13% increase in IPC from the Zen+ and could potentially open up even better OC opportunites with high core counts as well. So now I HAVE to wait for the Zen 2 to see if it is going to blow Intel away. I have had Intel CPUs for all of my computers for the last 12 years but am no fan boy right now and have no problem switching. My 6600k is able to run my games with no problems still, so I have no problem waiting until next year. Current info/rumors for Zen 2: Releasing after CES 2019 around May. +13% IPC over Zen+ Up to 16 cores for Mainstream processors AM4 and up to 32 for Enthusianst TR4 Sources: https://hothardware.com/news/amd-zen-2-speculation-16-core-am4-cpus-15-percent-ipc-uplift https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-2-7nm-cpu-13-percent-ipc-increase-rumor/ Has anyone else heard any other rumors or information regarding Zen 2?

@Zenyatta The MSI one is probably gonna be the best of the 3 just because of the large cooling solution, larger is usually better just because heat dissipation is based on surface area.. But make sure that it will fit, its a very large and long card. Just picked the Gigabyte because of price.

@Zenyatta The ASrock is a bit better than the ASUS board. VRM is just a bit better. Mind you, that is by me counting the stuff, not smart enough to analyze if the ASUS ones are "Better".

@Zenyatta With the first generation MBs, the memory support sucked. The particular MB I got did not like going up to 3200MHz. Fortunately even though it was undervolted at 1.2V, it is stable at 2933MHz. The XMP Profile puts it at 3200MHz as its rated for and just failed to boot, your use may vary though and your MB may have better luck. Getting a new MB would definitely make your life easier.

@Zenyatta The RAM I linked is on the supported list of RAM for the MB that is on there. From experience you may have to underclock a little instead of using XMP (Had to do that with my r7 1700 on my server, so it is set to 2933 instead of 3200). I have to agree with @Brooksie359 as far as getting the 2600. Most of the boards you buy new are going to have an updated BIOS. Not all mind you, but most. If it is not, not sure if AMD is still doing this, but when the APU's first came out, they were offering to send a super low powered CPU on loan to update the BIOS, you just had to send it back within a month or so, it is pretty cheap to ship just a CPU.

Just make sure the cable is rated for the requisite throughput to handle 144Hz, AKA if the one end is DVI-D, should be fine. Double check though, I have been bamboozled in the past with those adapters.

Just get a better GPU then like a 2080. You can get a pretty cheap 2nd monitor which is a nice quality of life thing. I have a cheap $100 24" monitor as 2nd monitor. I'm not an crazy overclocker so I think unless you are competing or the CPU is slowing you down in your productivity that delidding is not worth it. Delidding just to get better benchmark scores is silly.

Well both of the options you have listed has a 2070. So then which is better for you? Do you need the extra speed that would result from delidding your CPU, or would the Monitor be better? Is it a quality of life thing? Do you need another monitor for productivity or is it just extra? What GPU do you have right now?

Need more context in order to help you friend. It would depend on what you need.

I'm really surprised its still subsidized right now, would have thought that would have been cut by now by sitting president. Edit: Err, not go to off track, sorry.

No problem, I learned some stuff too. =D Getting a good PSU is ALWAYS a good investment. After all, if a shit one goes up, it could be the whole system too. Though as others mentioned, plenty of good ones that arn't my level of bullshit, I know a platinum PSU is excessive.

Now I don't have any experience with FreeNAS, but I use Unraid and have a 4 port SATA PCI e Storage controller for some extra drives I have in there. So perhaps if you are only using the two NAS drives its not a big deal and you may not need it. (I have 8 drives in my Unraid server.)

That's just sad for a company to do that with the M12II and the S12II. But still, haven't had a problem with my 860W Platinum PSU from them.

Well sure, but you get what you pay for. If you plan to spend shit money, you get a shit PSU. I also didn't know they changed brands, you are clearly more informed on the current goings on of that than I. I do a ton of research on the specific piece of gear I am getting before I buy it, just never had a problem with Seasonic in the past. Though again, I'm buying platinum efficiency PSUs, and spending the money on it, it better be friggin good.

Again, depends. Since I fold while I'm away from desk, the savings in power will add up. Especially since a quality PSU has a 7-10 year warranty. Meh, moderate OC. When I first got the CPU, I couldn't justify the cost of getting anything more than a 6600k. And I do have a Corsair 110i GTX with 2 ML140 fans (these things can blow your socks off) cooling the thing XD.

Please hit refresh, I added more stuff =D I would agree 99% of people don't run their CPU and GPU 100% all the time, hence my added comments of considerations and how they affect the buyer. He still hasn't responded so don't even know what he needs or wants.

@Brandon0McGowan As you can see on this article, I have the Seasonic 860W Platinum, but my max load is at about 531W with an i5-6600k with moderate OC and a EVGA SC GTX 1080Ti. I also let it fold while I'm not using it, so it is consistently at max load, therefore my 860W PSU is good because its peak efficiency is at max load. https://us.hardware.info/reviews/5011/6/seasonic-platinum-series-v2-660w760w860w-review-extremely-efficient-efficiency Another thing to consider is the fan curve for the PSU. If you desire a silent system, which you are looking at the RMx PSU from Corsair which are silent based, then you need to know at what load does the fan kick on. Do you want to spend the money to make sure the fan almost never kicks on? If that doesn't matter, then does the efficiency matter? If that doesn't matter, do you just need enough power to make sure everything is fed enough to run? Also, most of Corsairs good PSUs are just rebranded Seasonic PSUs, so if you see a Seasonic one at the desired W that is cheaper, go with it instead and save the money on the same PSU. Seasonic is one of the most premier PSU manufacturers.

@Brandon0McGowan As everyone above has already mentioned, it depends on what you have and what your plans are. a 650W PSU can power almost any Single GPU setup. However, if you plan to in the future to upgrade to something more power intensive or do some mad overclocks, the 850W might be worth it. Keep in mind you would have to do some MAD overclocks to a single GPU system to need 850W. Another thing to consider is the efficiency curve for each PSU. If you know that you will consistently keep it under say 45% load, for example if you let your computer do folding@home while your not using it, then the 850W might be worth it if the efficiency curve spikes at that 45%.

Yeah, kind of a crapshoot there. I have heard that when ryzens APU first came out that AMD was sending an on loan CPU to update the bios, not sure if they will still do that if its not updated. I would say go for the 2600 for now and hope for the best.

Correct, like super maginally better to the point Nvidia didn't allow board partners to overclock the 1070 Ti out of the box because it would beat the 1080 stock handidly. So just use whichever tool, like MSI Afterburner to set a slight overclock to match it to the 1080 if you really want 1080 speeds, but Nvidias built in OC works pretty decent that you could easily just leave it alone.

Slightly off topic, but look into just how big Samsung is, especially in South Korea where it's based out of. Suddenly them being on the forefront of that technology is NOT so crazy.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant Type Item Price CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor $159.89 @ OutletPC Motherboard MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard Purchased For $0.00 Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $124.99 @ Newegg Storage Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $54.99 @ Amazon Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $58.89 @ OutletPC Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card $419.99 @ B&H Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For $0.00 Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $0.00 Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $838.75 Mail-in rebates -$20.00 Total $818.75 Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-29 17:54 EDT-0400 I would argue the 1070 Ti, because it is basically a 1080, also, the stock coolers in AMD's stuff are pretty stout for what they are cooling, you probably don't need an aftermarket cooler unless you are doing some crazy overclocks.| PLUS, MSI does the black and red which fits your color scheme.

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