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So im having this problem over a week now and I just cant find a solution for it.

The problem is that if im not using my pc for more than 15-20 min, it suddenly freezes and the only way to fix it is by hard resetting the pc using the power button. At first I thought it was a ram issue but I've tested both of my ram sticks and they seem to work completely fine alone and together on other systems.

I have a Ryzen based system (3600X on stock values), 16GB ram on 3200Mhz and an asus strix b450-f gaming board.

Im thinking its a windows issue, but that issue wasnt resolved after reinstalling, I use windows 10 Pro 64bit.

Ive also viewed some threads about this issue from other people, but none of them have found a solution that worked well..

If someone here knows how to fix this, thanks in advance!

9 minutes ago, S.Hamed23 said:

Sounds like a ram issue. Get the ram changed. Mine got fixed right away with the same issue after a replacement

Can I replace this ram using warranty? Ive used XMP, is that considered warranty voiding?

*Update* - After some testing, ive found out that the problem was the Ryzen based power plans on Windows, the "Ryzen High Performance" seems to be the problem, switched to "Balanced" (the one that windows recommends) and it seems to work normal now.

Hi all!

So a weird thing started to happend on my computer, and I think it's on the ram side..

When I log on to my pc everything is fine, but if I dont use it for around 30 mintutes, suddenly it getting stuck and I cant use it unless I hard reset it.

The reason I think it's a ram issue is because when that stuck happends, the ram lights also stops working (I have an 8x2 Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB kit 3200Mhz on CL16, almost a year old).

In my trying to fix attemps I've reinstalled Windows, updated drivers for GPU and chipset and updated the BIOS to the latest version (im rocking a Strix B450-F Gaming with a R5 3600X) and of course disconneting and reconnecting the ram modules.

Someone maybe know what can be the issue? Its really annoying, and I've never had this problem before with my PCs over the years..

Thanks to you all who will try to help, happy weekend

5 minutes ago, mariushm said:

x570 has the benefit of chipset creating pci-e 4.0 lanes, while the b550 chipset creates pci-e 3.0 lanes. 

 

So with both motherboards, the lanes coming from cpu (first pci-e x16 slot and the m.2 connector) are pci-e 4.0, but the ones from the chipset are different (2nd m.2 connector, pci-e x1 and bottom pci-e x16 - electrically x4) are pci-e 3.0 on B550.

 

x570 also has a couple more lanes compared to b550 but if they're used for something depends on implementation. 

 

Downside of the x570 chipset is that if you actually use pci-e 4.0 from the chipset, it needs active cooler, so the fan on chipset needs to spin... and the fan is a potential point of failure.

 

between the two... i'd go with the b550 model even though the vrm heatsink on the x570 is probably a bit more beefy, so in theory it could handle very power hungry cpus better.

 

pros and cons 

 

only one video output on the x570 - only matters if you'll end up using a cpu with integrated graphics .. so B550 +1

no bios flashback button on x570 but special usb port for install bios without cpu, bios flash button on b550 (put bios on usb stick, press button even if no cpu in socket, you get bios updated) so B550 +0.5 

wifi on x570, not on b550 but you get extra slots to put wifi cards in, still..   x570 +1

2 extra usb 2 ports on the x570 ... not enough of a plus to score it

only 2 pci-e x16 on the x570 (2nd is pci-e 4.0 x4 from chipset),  3 pci-e x16 on the b550  (the 2nd is pci-e 3.0 x2 and 3rd is pci-e 3.0 x1 I think, and may be disabled if 2nd m.2 is used i think, but nevertheless it's there if needed)  so b550 +1

 

usb type c 10gbps front panel header on x570,   no header on b550   (I think there's one on b550 aorus elite V2)  so I guess x570 +1 

 

standard 1gbps lan on x570 , 2.5g ethernet on b550 so b550 +1

 

 

So for me,   2.5g ethernet + 3 pci-e slots + no need for fan on heatsink  beats  the type c 10g front panel header and the extra 2 usb 2.0 ports on the back

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the detailed replay!
honestly, 2.5G ethernet is not a big deal for me since my house supports up to 100MB on LAN (kill me please, but thats what I deal with), I wont use an APU so I dont care for the I/O video outputs, BIOS updates are annoying no matter a button or not, so I dont care doing a few more steps to make an update), 3 PCIe slots are cool but Ill probably never use 2, so I really dont need 3, USB-C is always nice, but ill need to buy a new case anyway to use it in this case..

Considering the current state and my needs, ill end up getting the X570

1 minute ago, Misguided Penguin said:

It comes down to the features you need honestly. The X570 motherboard supports more PCIe 4.0 lanes than the B550 does (B550 only supports 20 4.0 lanes so a new GPU and your new M.2 will use all of your 4.0 lanes), and X570 board you listed in particular also has WiFi. Honestly if they are the same price I would just go ahead and pick up the X570 board but if you find another decent B550 board for cheaper I would go for that.

I wish I had more options, but in the current state of things, the market on my country is just bad, really bad, these are the only two boards ive found that worth the money (200$ for the X570 is a steal considering the fact its 270$ msrp). Ill probably end up getting the X570, thanks!

1 minute ago, NZgamer said:

Sounds like you only need a B550 board but if an X570 board is the same price as a B550 then definitely get an X570

Yeah, when it comes to features I know ill need only a B550, but since they are the same price, wanted to make sure ill make the right choice

Hello!
So around a year ago, I've bought a new awesome gaming rig with a 3600X and a B450 board.
I haven't expected it to come that fast, but I've managed to put my hands on a new fast and cool PCIe 4 M.2 drive, and now I obviously need to get a new motherboard to support it.

My question is, B550 vs X570! since these two chipsets exist for some time now, I wonder what will be the better option.

First of all, ill probably use the board on stock settings (ill probably set up a fan curve and enable PBO, but unlikely ill OC the CPU.

I've found an X570 board (Aorus Elite Wifi) and a B550 board (Aorus B550 Elite), and the prices of both boards and pretty much the same (both around 200$ each, new in box, just not from an official store).

So what board should I go with considering the fact they are both new in the box? If that matter, my next upgrade to the rig will probably be a new Ryzen 7 CPU (either 3000 or 5000, depends on the price), and I might upgrade to 32GB RAM as well, adding 2 sticks to my current 8x2 3200Mhz setup or buying 2x16 kit 3600Mhz if I end up buying a 5th gen CPU.

Thanks to everyone who will be able to help me make a good choice!

4 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

put a -50mV offset on core voltage 

Well for now im running PBO and it looks like it will do the trick.. I guess once ill start video editing more and do more heavy multicore tasks ill come to the oc drawing board.. Thanks!

3 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

i'd use stock / pbo then for gaming. all core manual OC is good for rendering/productivity tasks only.

The problem with stock is that my CPU temp bumps into 60C on desktop and chrome (since on stock 2 cores are getting a boost every few min to do everything better), so im not so sure what to do here..

also I do some really tiny video editing usually of my shadowplay from nvidia, so that is also something to take in mind i suppose..

51 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

if mostly gaming, do a cinebench single core run and see what score you get with your OC vs auto-pbo.

On single core test OC gave 477 and stock gave 481..
Also, ran the normal test on Cinabench with the OC setting and my pc crashed almost instantly after the test started, is that normal it will crash under the multicore test? After ive put the voltage on 3.2 the multicore test went a-ok.

I guess stock gave a bit more juice since the voltage is way higher..?

So after a week with my new rig ive dicided to start OC my bad boy called the Ryzen 5 3600x!

And here is my end results based on personal needs and stuffs (mostly gaming on this bad boy):

Ive managed to boost up the clock speed from 3.8 to 4.275GHz on 1.3V, 65C max on full load!
Now ive tried to push up for 4.3GHz but that is achivable only when I set the voltage to 1.4V, that makes my CPU pretty toasty at really heavy load tasks (max temps went 85 at times, yikes!).

All of my stress tests and oc tweaking was made with Ryzen Master and RealBench.

Im using alonside my cpu a RTX2080 Super and Stix LC360 AiO!

I would like to hear some of your opinions when it comes to OC the 3600X, and please share you personal OC setups if you have some!

1 hour ago, Master Disaster said:

Make sure you have the latest AMD Chipset driver installed, set it to Ryzen Balanced and leave it alone. When the system is under low stress it will automatically boost 2 cores up to much faster than it could ever achieve across all cores, this is to help speed up the low stress high frequency tasks done by the OS while the system is idle. It's perfectly normal. Manually setting to High Performance overrides this feature. Just trust that AMD know better than Microsoft on how to power their own CPUs.

So should i set up a fan curve to reduce the noise when the cpu is over 40c or i should live with the noise in order to maintain good preformence at all times?

So I've recently picked up Ryzen 5 3600x and paired it with Strix B450-F Gaming and Strix LC 360 AiO.

For some reason, when I set the power plan on my PC to high performance or balanced, the cpu temp on idle goes up to 48-55, sometimes even 60. Every power plan does this (even the AMD Ryzen custom ones), the only plan that works fine is the preset Power Saver plan. I haven't oveclocked the cpu and it runs on default setting and voltage.

Does someone else in here having this issue or something similar to this issue? I would really like to set my power plan to high performance to make the most out of my cpu and AiO.

Thanks for reading and helping !

Hello people of the LTTForums!

So ive just built a new PC (WOOP!) and I own the ROG Strix LC 360 AiO Cooler (smexy af tbh).

Now ive went into BIOS to disable mobo rgb lights when the pc is off, but I cant find a way to disable the RGB effects on the AiO pump. 

Also looked for some software tweaking, but the "Armory Crate" gives me nothing when it comes to shutdown state rgb effects.

Is there a way even to disable those lights when the PC is off? I know there is somewhere..

Thanks for the support!

And for those who wonders:
Ryzen 5 3600x
16GB Corsair Vengence Pro RGB 3200Mhz
Strix LC 360

Strix 2080 Super Advanced

Strix B450-F Gaming

ROG Thor 850W-P

Came out really good!

Hello! im looking over some features of the GPU TweakII for my 1070 Strix.
I wonder what "Game Booster" does.. someone familiar with this feature? I would like to get some reviews ;D

Well after digging in some other parts, the case i got came with 4 tiny yet kinda long bolts that looks like some mounting screws, ill have to try installing the cooler using these to see if it works

Hey there, ive picked up a new "Arctic Alpine 11 Pro" for a rig im building..

I know this cooler suppose to come with some sort of "push in" bolts that allows me to mount the cooler to the mobo.

Ive opened the package and could not find these push in bolts.

Someone had this problem with this cooler b4? if yes how did you managed to fix this? 

Thanks a bunch!

So every 95% of the time im going into game (even just opening it), I can hear the GPU start kicking and then my PC crashes, and then reboots back normally.

This is going on for like a month.. in that month ive reset my drivers, formatted my pc, went to a lab and got my GPU testing (came out to be fine) and even testing it in another room since my room sometimes go crazy with the electricity. 

Im pretty sure its the PSU. (by "pretty sure" im like 99.9% sure..) its a Antec TruePower Classic 750W 80+ gold.

Im sad, help.

So i'm having this annoying problem happens under load (played Shadow of War for a long time, lol).

My PC is crashing, under heavy load (some games worked fine and I didn't got any crashes). Then it reboots back to Windows.

The thing is - 

1. Its not drivers (Ive formatted my PC and let Windows install all the drivers for the GPU  - 1070 Strix), and when benching in FurMark still crash.

2. It can be either the PSU or the GPU IMO.

When I run stress tests on the CPU it can run 30 min without nothing happens.

Some of the stress tests ive made for my GPU was on the good side (it managed to stay up for around 12 min before crashing once).

So I think its the GPU ATM, and Ive got it in a lab for testing (ive got warranty on the card so its cool).

I do have one more thing to look for if the cards comes back with no problems - if its the PSU ill replace it.

But Im having a "rain protector" thing plugged into the system (this plug that if there is a power shutdown it will keep the computer safe and wont burn anything down). - its pretty old so it might be that thing aswell..

Im not asking for help since ive done maybe every possible thing in order to seek the problem, I just want to see what you guys think about all this...

Thanks

*UPDATE* *FIXED*

Well a friend of mine @KermitFTW suggested to do a "load default" from the bios, turns out that fixed the problem. Kermit is a god.

57 minutes ago, MrDrWho13 said:

Try installing the older driver to see if that fixes the problem. Then you can be sure it's a driver problem and not a hardware problem.

Well I did reinstalled the driver before the current one went into game and got that reboot shit again, im thinking its windows.. that fkn update it did fucked everything.

Just now, firelighter487 said:

you could try rewmoving the geforce driver fully with a program called Display Driver Uninstaller, DDU for short. and then reinstalling the driver.

Ive went to the Nvidia website and installed the drivers again manually. I just need to test if its fixed now.

Just now, Majestic said:

I've seen so many of these posts. Sometimes it's the Nvidia driver, sometimes it's even the Blue Yeti mic driver. Something happened with the creator update that just threw a wrench in the works with drivers.

I can agree that since the creator update im getting more issues then before. About the drivers, the only driver ive updated is the GPU one so im guessing that is the problem.

Just now, Majestic said:

Windows 10 mysteries. Probably some driver that is causing that POS software to crap it's pants and reboot.

Good luck finding it, took me months to find it, more months to try and fix it but eventually just went back to windows 7

Wow. that is positive :\

Just now, firelighter487 said:

you could also try to monitor temp's. this sounds like an automatic shutdown from overheating.

I did monitored my temps, nothing went above 58C' in any part of the system.