TheoKondak

When I have some time, I will disassemble it and try to see how these switches are built. Maybe I will find a way to clean the interior and save the keyboard. Thanks for your tips.

Unstable power delivery can cause all sorts of strange shit, don't really know if it can cause smth like that, since if it indeed affects the network card so it loses packets it still would appear in software as so. But getting a new PSU would be my first call since you already know that it's faulty. Also, be sure to get smth serious, that GPU will appreciate it. Be sure to check that thread to pick a new one. What PSU do you have currently i'm curious ?

Well it is not a matter of CPU, it's rather a matter of software. Lightroom and PS wont be able to use all the threads. Other than that 3700x is a beast, and will handle both with no problem. 

I did some testing the other day, I had Lightroom recreating my photography catalogue (more than 100 thousand files), while I had open Davinci Resolve and Photoshop (with an HD image and a couple of layers), and at the same time a Chrome browser with more than 50 tabs, CS:GO and Ashes of the Singularity running as well. The system was running smoothly and it was still super responsive. 

I think it is not worth it that much to be honest. Outer Worlds seems nice. From some reviews I checked, they say it reminds a bit of the Fallout.

Hm not sure what to suggest to you my friend. I'd try to go for the new stuff. The new CPUs consume less electricity, heat less, they have better computational power, and they will receive more performance upgrades (we will get one bios update with more than 100 improvements they say during November).

Well it is not a matter of CPU, it's rather a matter of software. Lightroom and PS wont be able to use all the threads. Other than that 3700x is a beast, and will handle both with no problem. 

I did some testing the other day, I had Lightroom recreating my photography catalogue (more than 100 thousand files), while I had open Davinci Resolve and Photoshop (with an HD image and a couple of layers), and at the same time a Chrome browser with more than 50 tabs, CS:GO and Ashes of the Singularity running as well. The system was running smoothly and it was still super responsive. 

I recently got the 3700x and I m working on productivity tasks every now and then. Photoshop, Lightroom. Resolve and Handbreak. 
CPU: 3700x (Tuned using Ryzen Master: all cores @4.2Ghz 1.243v | Temps on load Max 73 average 60-65 Celsius).
GPU: Gigabyte 5700xt OC
RAM: 32gb 3000mhz cl16.

The 3700x just eats anything i throw at it. I can edit 4k footage from my Mavic Air without even creating optimized media. The CPU doesn't even break as sweat. If you want me to perform any specific test to give you more info let me know.
 
Also check this video/channel: 
 

not again...
 
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newer version can be found here:
 
Credit to: @Jurrunio @GoldenLag
 
The following list is based on facts, ranked on power delivery and known problems. The list will include modern motherboards for both Intel and AMD chips From Asus, Asrock, Biostar EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, NZXT and Supermicro (chipsets will be listed). We’ll include the recommended chips we would do with the boards.
 
For advanced users: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Smj5dh97n32wJqm5dkdDcQt8ID7vH52-lKzaaXUUQx8/edit?usp=sharing
 
AMD (AM4 Althlon 2xx, Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7, Ryzen 9)
All current draw figures are based on Prime95 small FFT with AVX unless otherwise specified, in other words the worst case scenario. Only the top end SKU of CPUs in the same generation and core/thread count configuration is named, others share the same rating. Zen scales down frequency and voltage according to EDC (current limit) and TDC (thermal limit) settings of the motherboard so in theory you won’t cook the VRM of any board at stock, you just lose frequency.
 
AM4 (Athlon 2xx, Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7, Ryzen 9)
Tier S 300A current draw on little ambient airflow (i.e below a big air cooler in a well-ventilated case), maxed out 3950X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking
Asus: X570 Hero
Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Xtreme
MSI: X570 Godlike
 
Tier S- 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3900X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking
Asus: X570 Strix-E, Pro WS Ace, Impact, ITX
Asrock: X570 Taichi, Phantom Gaming X, Creator
Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Master
MSI: X570 Creation, Ace, Unify
 
Tier A 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3950X on ambient cooling, 2700x on LN2
Asus: X570 Strix-F, TUF Plus, Prime Pro, Prime-P, X470 Crosshair VII Hero, X370 Crosshair VI Extreme
Asrock: X570 ITX/TB3, X470 Taichi (Ultimate), X370 Taichi, Professional Gaming
Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Ultra, Pro (ATX), X470 Gaming 7
MSI: X470 M7 AC
 
Tier B 160A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3900X, 3950x at 1.3V on ambient cooling, maxed out 1800X on LN2
Asus: X470 Strix-F, X370 Crosshair VI Hero, Strix-F
Biostar: X570 GT8, X470 GT8, X370 GT7
Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Elite, ITX
 
Tier C 125A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2700X, 3900x at 1.3V on ambient cooling (P95)
Asus: X470 Strix-I, B450 Strix-I, X370 Prime Pro
Asrock: X570 Extreme4, Steel Legend, Pro4 (ATX & mATX), Phantom K4
Gigabyte: X570 UD, Gaming X, X370 Gaming K7, Gaming 5
MSI: X570 Gaming Pro Carbon, !X470 Gaming Pro Carbon, !B450 Gaming Pro Carbon, Tomahawk (& Max), Gaming Plus ATX (& Max), A Pro (& Max), Mortar (& Max), Gaming Plus mATX, Bazooka Plus, Gaming Plus ITX, X370 M7 ACK, XPower Titanium
 
Tier D 100A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1800X and 3700X, a tad more than maxed out 2600X, maxed out 2700X in ambient cooling (Cinebench R15)
Asus: X470 Prime Pro, B450 TUF Pro, Strix-E, X370 Strix-I, B350 Strix-I
Asrock: X470 Master SLI, K4, ITX, !B450 K4, Steel Legend, ITX
Gigabyte: X470 Gaming 5, Ultra Gaming, B450 Aorus Pro (ATX), Aorus Elite
MSI: X570 A-Pro, Gaming Plus, Edge, !X470 Gaming Plus, Gaming Pro, B450 Pro-VDH (& Max & V2), Bazooka (& V2), X370 Gaming Pro Carbon, Krait Gaming, SLI Plus, Gaming Plus, Gaming Pro, B350 Gaming Pro Carbon, Krait Gaming
 
Tier E 75A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1600X and 3600X, a bit more than maxed out 2500X
Asus: X470 TUF Plus, B450 Strix-F, TUF Plus, Prime Plus, X370 Prime-A, B350 Strix-F, Prime Plus, TUF Plus
Asrock: X470 Master SLI, K4, B450 K4, Steel Legend, Pro4, M/AC, HDV, X370 Gaming X, Killer SLI, mITX, K4, Pro4, B350 mITX, Pro4, K4, HDV, AB350M
Biostar: X470 GTA, GTQ, GTN, X370 GT5, GT3, B350 GT5, GT3, GTN
Gigabyte: B450 Aorus M, Gaming X, DS3H, ITX X370 Gaming K5, K3, 3, Gaming, DS3H, !B350 Gaming 3, Gaming, DASH, DS3H, AB350N Gaming-WiFi
MSI: B450 Pro-M2 (& Max) B350 Gaming Plus, Tomahawk, PC Mate, Bazooka, Mortar, Pro-VDH, Pro-VH Plus, Pro-VD Plus
 
Tier F 50A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1300X
Asus: B450 Prime-K, Prime-A, B350 Prime-A, Prime-E, Prime-K
Asrock: B450 HDV R4.0, B350 HDV R3.0, HDV R4.0
Biostar: X570GT, B350 B45M2, HiFi B350S1, ET2
Gigabyte: B350 D3H, D3V, HD3, DS2
MSI: B450 Pro-M2 V2, B350 Gaming Pro
 
Tier H2O Liquid cooled only VRM, terrible if cooled only with air, tier S if liquid cooled
Asus: X570 Crosshair VIII Formula
Asrock: X570 Aqua
 
Tier W Workstation features, can appear here and above tiers
Asus: X570 Pro WS Ace (ECC certification)
Asrock rack: X570 D2I, D4U-2L2T, X470 D4U (ECC cert + KVM switch), D4U2-2T (ECC cert + KVM switch)
 
AMD (TR4, Threadripper)
 
Tier LN2 700A current draw under mist of liquid nitrogen and high RPM fan (ambient air? unrealistic), maxed out 2990WX under an awful lot of liquid nitrogen
Asus: Zenith Extreme Alpha
MSI: Creation
 
Tier S 500A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out (1.35v) 2990WX on ambient cooling (P95), 2970WX on liquid nitrogen
Asus: Zenith Extreme Alpha
MSI: Creation
 
Tier A 350A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2970WX on ambient cooling (P95), 2990WX limited to 1.175v (P95)
Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme
 
Tier B 300A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2970WX on ambient cooling (Cinebench R20)
Asus: Zenith Extreme with cooling kit
 
Tier C 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2950X on ambient cooling, 2970WX limited to 1.15v (P95)
Asus: Zenith Extreme
MSI: Gaming Pro Carbon AC, SLI Plus
 
Tier D 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2920X and 1950X on ambient cooling
Asus: Strix-E, Prime-A
Asrock: Taichi (mATX & ATX), Professional Gaming
Gigabyte: Gaming 7, Designare EX, Aorus Pro
 
Tier E 150A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1920X on ambient cooling
Asrock: Phantom 6
 
Intel (1151 v2, 2066)
 
Tier S Extreme overclocking (i7oc, i9oc)
Asus: Maximus XI extreme, Maximus X extreme, Rampage VI Apex, Rampage VI, Maximus XI Gene, Maximus X Apex, Maximus XI Apex
EVGA: Dark
Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme (WaterForce), x299-aorus gaming 9
MSI: MEG Godlike, MEG creation
 
Tier A High-end gaming (i5oc, i7oc, i9oc)
Asrock: Taichi (ultimate) (xe), x299-Extreme4, Phantom Gaming 9, x299-fatal1ty (xe)
EVGA: FTW, Classified K, Micro
Gigabyte: Designare, Aorus Master, z390-Aorus Ultra, z390-Aorus Pro, z390-Aorus Elite, Aorus Gaming 7, x299-gaming 7 (pro)
MSI: M7, MEG ACE
 
Tier B Mainstream gaming (i5oc, i7oc)
Asus: zxxx-Strix, x299-strix, Maximus XI Formula/Hero/Code, Maximus X Formula/Hero/Code, zxxx-Prime-A, X299-TUF, X299-Prime Deluxe
Asrock: Phantom Gaming ITX/6/atx-ac/, zxxx-Fatal1ty, z370/z390-Extreme4
Biostar: Z370GT6
Gigabyte: z390-Gaming SLI/plus/m gaming, Gaming 5, x299-aorus gaming 3 (pro), x299-aorus ultra gaming, x299-aorus ultra gaming pro
MSI: zzxx-Pro Carbon, Edge, MPG, M5, Krait, x299-sli plus
NZXT: N7
 
Tier C Value gaming (i3, i5, i7)
Asus: hxxx-Strix, bxxx-Strix
Asrock: zxxx-Pro4, Phantom Gaming 4, ATX/ac, Killer/SLI, hxxx-fatal1ty, bxxx-fatal1ty, Bxxx-Pro4
Gigabyte: Gaming 3, UD4, z390-UD
MSI: Tomahawk, Mortar, Gaming Pro, bazooka, hxxx-pro carbon, Gaming Pro, Raider, zxxx-SLI plus
 
Tier D Basic (pentium, celeron, i3, i5)
Asus: TUF, Prime-P, Prime-Plus, Prime-C
Asrock: hxxx-Pro4, HDV, DGS, HDVP
EVGA: Stinger
Gigabyte: D3, XP, HD3, DS3H, N-wifi, s2p, n, m h, d3, S2, DS2V, HD2
MSI: A-Pro, PC-pro, Gaming Plus, Pro-VDH, Pro-VD, Pro-VH, Pro-D, Pro-VHL, Pro-VL
 
Tier W: Workstation (i7, i9)
Asus: WS Pro, WS Sage
Supermicro: CGW-O

 
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Today I've purchased some Crucial Ballistix Sport 3000Mhz CL15. They are in the cheap end, bought 32GB for 160€, but I see that people can easily achieve 3600Mhz CL16 with some OC. So I guess they are some of the best options for your case.

That's what I purchased: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/22vbt6/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-32-gb-4-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-bls4k8g4d30besbk

Frankly unless you're rendering massive scenes or somesuch, the 3700X is hardly a compromise. It's a great piece. It rivals and in many cases beats out the 9900K in production at 60% of the price, and it games really well. I'd just grab one and be happy with that purchase. Until great sales hit, the 3900X is just too damn pricey.
 
Comparing what Linus was finding with 3600 vs what Steve Burke found with 3200 (obvious 2 different environments, but pretty applicable) there is a distinct difference in performance there. But again, RAM can always overclock.

That could certainly bump your workload performance a solid amount! In gaming, the results won't change a whole lot.
If you do so, I would go with a decent X570 series board instead of the B450. Like this AORUS model:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/nHxbt6/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-elite
 
Also note that in either situation, your CPU is going to want faster RAM than that 3200mhz. If you get into loads that you need to improve, I would do a little research in RAM overclocking. See if you can get it up closer to 3600mhz.

My case has such capabilities so if I am about to save 20€ for something that will not bother me that often, I guess I will just skip it and go for a good non-modular one, and I guess I will do the same for CPU fan for now. That's 50€ savings just from these two parts  Maybe if I can save some more, I can push my budget to get the 3900x!

Very loud. Actually, in the modern market is a BAD solution for the price. The Freezer 34 eSports and others people have chosen in this thread would do a lot better while being less loud.
 
NEVER watch a Linus review, they're usually shit...
 
The 660p or P1 will do; the 970 Evo has ZERO real world benefit.
The Vega 56 has similar performance to RTX 2060, a bit less than 5700. If you are looking to spend less, you can go for that.
 
Please, I see you've said you will be buying in September, come back and ask then, prices change daily.
 
FALSE. The difference is usually less than 1%... you would likely be better off just getting smaller PSU and using the saved money to cover the cost. 550W and 650W is already overkill.
 
Corsair does not make any power supplies. They share the same factories with almost everyone else in the industry (SeaSonic (rarely), HEC, CWT, Flextronics), may I know what model you currently have?

Watch any review videos for the Hyper 212 Evo. It is literally not worth your money.. watch one where it's pitted against the included Wraith Spire. 
 
I chose the eSports Duo based on performance reviews. It's a solid dual unit for a really good price. 
 
750 is fine if you want it, but if 650 is a savings, dont waste the money. Grab a BitFenix whisper if you want modularity. 
The problem is not all PSUs are high quality. Xilence is not, like across the board. 
MWE Gold, Corsair RMx or TMx, EVGA G1+, BitFenix Whisper are all solid and modular. 

The trick is to let it go for a while I've managed to wait for so long, I will probably manage another month 

As @TheoKondak was mentioning, there's a lot of changes specific to supporting PCI-E 4.0. The chipset has over an 11W TDP, so it requires active cooling, which is driving up the price.
 
Really, for the performance benefit that you will get for PCI-E 4.0, it is worth it. Really, X570 is for the content creators who can make real use of the new Corsair NVME 4.0 drives that can push 5GB/s Read/Write on PCI-E 4.0 and are looking to leverage that Ryzen 9. It really feels like HEDT without requiring a separate platform.

Well, X570 mobos are going to be more expensive, due to PCI-e 4, and many more. There are a lot of changes, and extra heatsinks etc that are required, so a premium price should be expected.

Ähm....
 
You have an old, inefficient Q6600 and wonder about electricyty bills? RLY?
The old C2D parts are pretty awful when it comes to idle and such. And that's not with the Dual Dous...
 
So the old 65nm Parts I'd expect to idle around 100W, with an age appropriate GPU up to 150W...
And that's not taking the old, 60-75% PSU into account.
 
So yeah, your new system might not actually consume more, on the contrary, it might consume half as much under low load conditions...

seems to be a alpenföhn sella

The Sella has different fin shapes. I'm pretty sure that's an Alpenfohn Brocken, which is a 120mm fan.
 
Regardless, @TheoKondak, AM3 and AM4 have different amounts of space between mounting brackets. Not by much, but by enough that I've had mixed results on getting AM3 coolers to work on an AM4 board. If you've got the crossbar, there's no harm in giving it a try in a horizontal position and checking your temperatures and mounting pressure to see how strong the hold is. Dropping coolers on your GPU is no bueno.

I think you can still use the single mounting bar (am3 style) if you're motherboard provide it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant Type Item Price CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor €168.89 @ Mindfactory CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/White) CPU Cooler €29.90 @ Amazon Deutschland Motherboard ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard €156.99 @ Amazon Deutschland Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland Case Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case €44.99 @ Amazon Deutschland   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total €510.67   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-06 15:05 CET+0100