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  1. Interested readers: high GPU 'power concerns' peaked w/ the release of the AMD R9 295x2 way back in 2014: TDP 450w / TBP 500w (pushing the limits of dual-8pin power); Tom'sHardware breakdown at the time ('A lot has been written about AMD’s flagship violating standards and specifications') message clear: forget 20g, 18g minimum, 16g preferred --> The Math Behind GPU Power Consumption And PSUs ... easy to apply that same lesson to today's Nvidia 3000/4000
  2. PSA: While they offer international shipping also, in the US, custom / DIY sleevers have success using Lutro0 / MainFrame Customs thin-jacket insulation 16awg & 18awg wire in black or white (among most other basic cable & wiring supplies: connectors, terminals, sleeve, tools etc), all at affordable cost ... scroll to see MainFrameDave's custom 3090Ti 12pin FE cables Get their 16g if it's size will work, or 18g --> ditch the 20g (ewww)
  3. FYI: Attached is the EVGA G2 G3 P2 T2 etc panel (& pinout), the x2 CPU 8pin ports are the EPS key-type, the PCI-E 8pin ports are PCI-E key-type; the pinouts are a true CPU (x4 12v | x4 ground) & true PCI-E type pinout (x3 12v | x5 ground); whether you zoom-in on the SnowCrash EVGA front panel (from 2 posts above) or mine, u see the CPU/PCI-E ports are electrically pinned different & key different, so you can not run x4 discrete CPU cables off an EVGA ... Corsair Seasonic you can, since all 8pin ports are electrically pinned the same & all key the same
  4. @jonnyGURU ... in 2013/2014 I bought a Corsair GS600 new from MicroCenter for $34/US; on install it exhibited this exact symptom, like a digital / tea kettle whistling noise (~50sec-1min): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AtODn7GJk I ran it for 2months & then put it into storage, & no use since then for ~7years (still in my attic collecting dust). I've wanted to 'donate' the PSU to family, but, it's noisy, sounded 'weird' when I ran it. My questions are 1) is the PSU 'known to be faulty' & if so can it be 'fixed here' by some method to make it quiet 2) If I do get it running again after 7years in storage (noisy or not), is the advice to run the 12volt rail for 24hours straight, so as to prime/re-energize/reform the main cap(s) electrolyte coating etc ... ok, so my tea kettle GS600 needs help or needs recycled etc .. ty 

    1. Cyberspirit

      Cyberspirit

      The mention most likely didn't work because of the lines under the text so might want to tag them again or send a dm.

  5. Advice: pay someone to make a 4+4 CPU cable, using a 12pin connect = x4 12v top row / x4 ground bottom Advice: buy an empty 12pin & empty 4pin or 4+4 + pre-made 24"/600mm wires with female-to-female PSU ATX pins attached & make your own cable (using pinout below) ***Contact MainFrameCustom.com, ask if they'll make u a cable or sell u the parts to make it (ie x4-x8 pre-made female-to-female wire sleeved or un-sleeved + empty 12pin & 4pin / 4+4) The color pinout was made from my X1250 XM1 & is identical for my 1000w Platinum (same as OP) Note: for the 6pin SATA, there are in fact two live 12v pins (one is unused, both are shown) Note: the lower 10/18 ATX, 'star icons' are sense wires, & the numbered color chart is relative to the 24pin Note: all of the 12volt & most of the grounds for CPU/PCI-E wires are 16awg (dual-grounds are 18awg) Original CPU #2 cable shown below, housed in a 12pin with solid 8pin EPS connect (x8 16awg) EDIT: If what u did was insert a solid 8pin EPS/CPU connector into the 12pin, for a volt/ground reading w/a DMM, I have an empty 12pin (male) & yes the solid 8pin will insert (key) into it but it will not latch together. If an inability to 'latch' an 8pin to a 12pin doesn't bother you, you might buy an EVGA CPU 4+4 cable (see eBay), since their G2 P2 T2 G3 pinout for CPU port is the standard 12volts top row / grounds bottom row ... if you know how to back the PSU terminals out & put them back in, you could then buy an empty 12pin (MainFrameCustoms etc) & transfer it onto the EVGA 4+4
  6. I assume you have an Alienware Area-51 R1 (2009-2011) with the standard 66pin case harness (part# U647R). If so, you have a pair of standard video cables on that harness (blu + ylw) each on its own 12volt 18Amp rail, & the black P3 connector is the '3rd' video cable on the 1100w model (see Note 1), & as you stated it needs an extension (part# W405C) ***see eBAY for W405C https://www.ebay.com/itm/152492962862?epid=720111250&hash=item238149f42e:g:ZVcAAOSwA29Y3uT7 ***Also try AlienOwners Forum Note 1: 2inch black P3 8pin connector is DEAD on the 1000w & 1200w PSU, it is LIVE on the 1100w PSU ... your U662D & other 1000w/1200w can not use it (it isn't internally pinned out / wired for it). Only factory-ordered 1100w model desktops had the W504C 3rd video-cable extension installed Note 2: P3 is an 8-wire PCI-E 8pin -but- only six wires are live when used with the 1100w (x3 12v + x3 ground, the other x2 grounds are dead) Note 3: W405C adaptor/extension has an 8pin PCI-E male connector-end, it's roughly 8inches long with a 5inch pigtail, set-up as dual-6pins (females), but it only has six wires. It's the equivalent of a 6+2 but with the ground wires for the 2pin are both absent Note 4: What is it used for? In the 1100watt DELL PSU (example G821T), it's the 3rd video cable, on its own 12volt rail. It is normally used to power SLI/X-Fire configs, when the video card uses an 8pin + 6pin power ports design, see the dual HD5970 cards below, where W504C powers both 6pin ports (each 5970 shares a 6pin). In other words, two video cards running off of three discrete video cables, where each 6pin is probably good for 75watts each, or all told, a 150watt dual-6pin cable PICTURE Note 5: 1000w PSU has two vid-cables, 1100w has three, 1200w has four ... therefore, the 1000w is best used with a solo-beast-card, while the 1100/1200 are best for dual-cards (note the 1100watt can not power dual-8pin cards, since W504C extension is a 6pin, lol ... when needed, buy the 1200w J297R or VHM5V made by Flextronics)(VHM5V has the better 46Amp rail)
  7. @GabenJr Aliens make me grouchy. Linus makes Aliens grouchy. Heh. Twitter's erupting. Head dawg at Alienware's butthurt Azor makes it sound like he's coming in with a 3600MHz club, but (PDF Setup Manual) indicates the motherboard supports 2933MHz DDR4 max. Idle boasting. Whatever's in the works could be less of a bang, more like a whimper. Early adopters now paying out the nose for their 2667 Dell budget green sets, 'worthless' on the used market in attempt to upgrade to faster better later. Twitterer asks why Azor won't 'like' Linus' review, answer below. Game On. @GabenJr I warned you not to put your reputation on the line for these people. Not a day later do they try to publicly ruin your reputations. @Cinnabar Sonar The estimated cost of the 850watt Bronze is ~$175 of the $3000 base price. Add $250 more for 1500watts, $425 investment ...
  8. To be fair to the buying public, I find it irresponsible for you to promise buyers that their desktop 'will have proper cable management done'. I'm struggling to understand why you would place your reputation on the line like this. Their idea of poor factory cable mngmnt is & always has been one click away to the latest owner unboxing videos on uTube. The same cable set in your test rig there has been in production for 3years now. it's the same cable set that Gamespot called out in 2014: 'Similarly disappointing are the modular cables, which are your basic mismatched OEM set, and again, given the cost, it's odd not to find a more aesthetically pleasing and sturdier set of wrapped cables inside'. 2009, 2014, 2017, nothing's changed. Most wires have no sleeve, some cables are only half-sleeved, the rest have reduced sleeve counts, all of it purposely done as a cost-cut, a budget set quickly hewn into a rat's nest by factory workers, no attention to detail, same as always. You should retract your statement that buyers will receive better than what they already saw, or amend it to say you 'hope' they do, because that is all you can say in good faith. It is Ill advised to rush to this company's defense the way you did. Show me one desktop in their 20year history that had proper cables & management
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