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Everything posted by Jrasero

  1. I been without a GPU for a bit now and I am getting pretty nervous about my newegg EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC pre-order. It was delayed once until 9-27 and I emailed and called to see if they were expected to receive their shipment by Thursday and they kept reiterating pre-orders are subject to change, without ever answering my question directly. I have a strong feeling they are not getting a shipment this Thursday. Vendors like B&H have their shipments coming in late October, I wonder if this is really the most realistic date. Honestly the EVGA RTX 2080 TI at $1150 is a lot of money no matter how you slice it, but by far has the best performance out there. I have started to contemplate just getting a used Titan Xp for $675 shipped off Reddit, or another guy has offered his un opened RTX 2080 FE for $775 shipped. Both seem like good deals, however I am always nervous about buying used or buying from Reddit period. None of the sellers have been flagged but that like saying the car I am looking at buying doesn't have anything bad on it's CarFax, which means something could have just not been reported. The Reddit deals definitely have an urgency to them since I suspect people want to unload these asap. Today I also got the same email from newegg that I got on 9-19-18 saying your RTX 2080 card will not be shipping on 9-20 and is expected on 9-27. Just odd, maybe these meant to say it's not coming in 9-27 and expected .... any suggestions on what to do? also performance wise where does an Xp fit into the RTX spectrum, a course not considering DLSS or ray tracing
  2. Jrasero

    Titan Xp, RTX 2080, RTX 2080 Ti

    again you are hell bent on price. Which is fine but there is a demographic of people who can and will drop $1000+ on a dime. Is it spending money on the future or just on the perception of getting the best out there? Point being the RTX 2080 Ti factually is the fastest gaming card out there, whether you value it at $1000+ is really a personal financial question and not someone saying $ per FPS. Also at this moment really the only 4K 60+ FPS card without dialing down the settings, which I believe no one will want to do if they are dropping $1200 on a card. I am not going to argue that RTX isn't overpriced and your getting less for the money, but I hate when people say well "just wait" especially 12 months. I don't consider myself a totally impatient man but waiting a year just so we can see RTX drop what 15% at max? As per DLSS support, I get that you need games but from I can see, developers can easily have their games include DLSS, even older titles, so adoption rate should be much higher compared to ray tracing which we both agree might never catch on. SLI is mute since it sucks, and my system doesn't support it. Again pricing doesn't need to make sense for you and you only. I think the narcissism that a retailer should curtail to certain people so you yourself can afford it is outrageous. If everything was priced within reach and reason it wouldn't be called a luxury and there wouldn't be any ultra enthusiasts. Luxury isn't about reason or rationality. I think using historical antidotes isn't realistic. There are too many 10 series cards out there which leaves zero reason to lower the prices besides events like BF. How come we went from sub $600 GTX 1080 Ti deals to all cards being $700 or higher? Yeah there would be confusion between them and the RTX 2080 but also there is zero reason to give anyone a $550 GTX 1080 Ti anymore. Honestly I think people are just primed to hate. RTX was never going to live up to people's expectation regardless and of price and $800+ didn't help that and that's kind of the issue when something falls bellow their expectation line. If RTX 2080 was $600 and the Ti was $800 there would still be people saying, oh God I need to sell my kidney to afford these or these aren't what I expected.
  3. Jrasero

    Titan Xp, RTX 2080, RTX 2080 Ti

    Well my question said without parlaying the money to something else...lol but my system really is already complete besides the GPU. No I don't plan on mining. no offense but people are so hung up on price. Let's be honest most people don't need anything above a 1070, yet people buy these enthusiast cards for minimal visual benefits and a higher FPS ticker. It's a sickness and I admittedly suffer from it. My point is RTX is overpriced, I get that but so is a BMW IMO but hey a lot people buy those for perceived value and performance even though BMW frankly has none of those characteristics (sorry M series guys). I am not sold on ray tracying and your right this gen it will be a dud, but it's still is a party trick and DLSS IMO still has HUGE upside. So let's stop pretending we need or want to live this minimalist life where we won't pay for frivolous things because when you die and your whole life flashes before your eyes, how much of it do you want to not have ray tracing?” haha
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    Titan Xp, RTX 2080, RTX 2080 Ti

    I find the 1080 Ti to be a so so value. With the RTX 2080 out GTX 1080 Ti sales stopped and they remain at $700. So no more sub $600 GTX 1080 Ti. For $100 why wouldn't I get a RTX even if it's features aren't be utilized at the moment, it seems like a more future proof card.
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    Titan Xp, RTX 2080, RTX 2080 Ti

    Money is always something to consider, but I am willing to buy a RTX 2080 Ti knowing it is only 20%-30% better than a GTX 1080 Ti since it is really the only true 4K gaming card. I wouldn't say a RTX 2080 is a bad buy though $100 more than a currently priced 1080 Ti but you get an ever so slightly better card at 4K, DLSS, and ray tracing. Granted the last two features are not available now, which makes the RTX more of a speculative buy I guess my question is, if someone gave you $1150 and said choose, which one would you pick and no you can't parlay the remaining money into something else
  6. So you can basically get a 1080 Ti for $650 now pretty much everywhere and a RTX 2080 is $800. So the question you have to ask yourself is having the newest tech and ray tracing worth it to you? There are other pluses like DLSS for RTX but from the leaks the RTX 2080 is basically a 1080 Ti when it comes to traditional game benchmarks. Most people will say no and I understand that, but benchmarks will only be able to confirm this
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    Tips for buying used gpu

    Unless you personally know the guy pretty assume any used card was mined and overclocked. If this is off a listing that has multiple cards listed its almost certain they were mined cards. If possible ask him for video and or screen shots of benchmarks and of the card running. In the end I am not huge on used cards unless they are from a company like EVGA that has very good customer service and allows the warranty to be easily transferred without proof of purchase. also IMo Zotac are some of the worse cooled cards especially the mini
  8. Jrasero

    Gtx 1080ti vs RTX 2080ti @ 3440x1440 100hz

    What monitor do you have? my Pixio is also 3440x1440 100Hz and with my former EVGA SC2 Hybrid 1080 Ti and iCX 1080 Ti both were able to get 100+ FPS on Ultra w/ GTA V. 4K cut that in half. Again no benchmarks but it has been reported that the GTX 2080 Ti will be able to do some* games at 4K ultra settings at 100+ FPS. With that being said a GTX 1080 Ti will be great at 1440P ultra settings and a 2080 Ti could be amazing if not borderline overkill. If you plan on doing 4K or in the future the 1080 Ti will be ok to even good in some games while the RTX has the potential to be very good to even great at 4K money wise yeah 1080 Ti is just the safer bet, but if $1200 aint nothing but a thang, ball baby
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    RTX or current gen?

    New $525 has been the lowest on a random third part Amazon vendor for Zotac 1080 Ti. I recently bought the EVGA 1080 Ti iCX for $552 when Ebay adsorbed the 15% off. So a great deal for new $550 or lower, but again these were one off random sales. I don't think drastic price cuts cross the board will happen. However B&H is having a nice sale and a SC2 1080 Ti is $600, so if you can get a 1080 Ti $600 or bellow good deal IMO
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    RTX or current gen?

    Best explanation so far 2070 up to 20% over 1070 2080 up to 20% over 1080 2080 Ti up to 25% over 1080 Ti
  11. A couple questions. But first some background. Sold my hybrid 1080 Ti at the beginning of the month so I could buy a new EVGA air card so I could have a card right away but also be eligible for step up when RTX was released. I sold my card for $560 and got an EVGA GTX 1080 Ti iCX for $552 (after rebate) new but with a step up value of $650. The cheapest EVGA card at the moment seems to be the 11G-P4-2382-KR at $1150 so if I am able to step up on 9/20 I will be paying $500 plus whatever shipping is. In the meantime I was able to place a pre-order w/ Newegg for the 11G-P4-2382-KR for $1156 shipped. So my first question is: will a RTX 2080 Ti (11G-P4-2382-KR) work with a Corsair SF600 PSU with a 8700K, EVGA 240 CLC AIO, 2 120MM slim Noctua fans, 1 92"mm slim Noctua fan, 2 M.2 NVME drives, 16GB DDR4 Ram, Z370N MOBO? System is a SFF NCase M1 so PSU options are limited unless I got SFX-L but that would make it super cramped in there if not impossible. Second question would be: should I cancel my pre-order and just try step up? If I kept my pre order there is no way I could get $650 for my current 1080 Ti so in the long run I would be paying more for a 2080 Ti. I know I will get flack for this but should I keep my preorder and just try and sell it? or do you think there will be no market for this? Newegg is sold out, EVGA is not taking pre-orders at the moment or is sold out, and Nvidia site has their 2080 Ti with a delivery around 11/12/18 now.
  12. Sure and maybe we will. Hard getting less for more money this gen but that might be the new normal which again sucks but who is going to check nvidia? AMD? Lol Point being the RTX whether we can justify the price or not seems to be at this moment really the only card that we know for a fact that will have good performance boosts. How much to be exact we don't know. So when people are saying a 2080 should exceed a 1080 Ti one maybe that's not case anymore
  13. Well I am not getting my hopes but I think there is some confusion. The 60 FPS was with the new Tomb Raider with Ray Tracing on at 1080P. So yeah Ray Tracing for high pixel density and high refresh monitors is out of the question. I should note that 100+ FPS at 4K was on "some" games which again they couldn't disclose. So yeah benchmarks are still needed. If GTA V hits 55 FPS on Ultra w/ a GTX 1080 Ti at 4K 60Hz, anything less than 80-100+ w/ the RTX is a bust IMO. https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-performance-preview-4k-100-fps/
  14. Well no data/benchmarks as of yet but tech radar who couldn't reveal a lot of info due to embargo found that a single RTX 2080 Ti at 4K was hitting 100+ FPS on Ultra. They couldn't disclose what games, but I am sure they weren't playing MOBA games. So I am pretty positive the RTX 2080 Ti will be the first real 4K card and really the only card at the moment we can say for sure that has the most traditional performance gains over Pascal. On paper I am not sure you can say that about the 2070 or 2080...
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    Prediction: RTX Cards Are Barely Faster Than Pascal

    No benchmarks yet but Tech Radar said: "We also played a variety of other PC games that shall not be named, and saw performance run in excess of 100 fps at 4K and Ultra settings (this is with the RTX 2080 Ti)". With that being said yeah the 2080 Ti looks like a beast of a card at 4K w/ non ray tracing games. They did note that they didn't know if the cards were being overclocked in order to reach this and couldn't say which games they played. But it's apparent at least for ray tracing on the RTX 2080 Ti that the tech is just not up to snuff for today's high FPS and 1440P/4K players
  16. I agree and unfortunately the 2080 Ti meet be the only RTX card that sees decent traditional performances increases over Pascal, albeit at $1200 MSRP. I don't mind spending $1200 if I know that the RTX 2080 Ti will be the top dog for the next 18-24 months, but it seems this gen might be a place holder at best even though it has a whole new moniker dedicated to it
  17. I think you are right that something within the next 12 months will be released by Nvidia. This version of RTX was really to launch a new tech feature that will hopefully be the baseline of all future cards. The prices and traditional specs make it clear this was kind of an iPhone S type of gen in hopes of maybe funding ray tracing development, getting rid of huge amounts of Pascal cards, and just testing how far the demand for anything new is even with huge MSRP premiums. There are a couple issues. AMD should be launching 7nm next year and for a company like Nvidia that has so much hubris they will not let them have any kind of win. I guarantee Nvidia strikes back and issues their own 7nm or a updated Turing that have "X" more performance which will probably send anyone spending $600-$1200 on this version into a crazed furry. More than likely AMD's cards will have no shot in competing performance wise however if AMD follows their own company history they can undercut their competitor significantly by releasing cards for hundreds of dollars less than the current gen Turing cards. Oh and then you have Intel in 2020, so without a doubt Nvidia is saving a few tricks for down the line. I believe they thought RTX would wow us and we would accept it without asking performance numbers with or without RTX enabled. It's pretty clear even the $1200 RTX 2080 Ti can't handle ray tracing well for 2018 standards since it only managed 60 FPS w/ ray tracing on while playing the new Tomb raider 1080P at 60Hz. Simply RTX is more of a half baked idea like the original Siri. It will takes years for developers to catch up and really it's more of a talking point than an actual useful feature as of today or even possibly years to come.
  18. Jrasero

    Which graphic card to choose RTX 2080 or GTX 1080 Ti

    I wouldn't buy a card for ray tracing today but only for the added traditional performance benefits over Pascal, but what those gains are are very unknown at this point. The only one on paper that looks like it will have a nice traditional performance increase is the 2080 Ti but then you have that $1200 MSRP. But the recent news of the RTX 2080 Ti only being able to get 60 FPS w/ ray tracing on at 1080P for the new Tomb Raider pretty much cements the fact that whether you believe in ray tracing or not, it's NOT currently ready today or even years from now to meet gamer's current high FPS and 1440P/4K needs. So no one should be buying a RTX card for future proofing. Buy RTX because you want bragging rights or hopefully traditional performance boosts. However I a lot of people are going to be disappointed with the 2070 and 2080 performance compared to Pascal counterparts TDLR RTX 2080 Ti or just stay/get a GTX 1080 Ti
  19. Yeah I am a little torn about waiting or not. For one any RTX 2080 Ti is a lot of money but really it is the only card that might see decent performance increases via non ray tracing titles. I got my order in through Newegg for an EVGA card since EVGA is my preferred brand and for $6 I have 3 day shipping and you aren't charged until it ships, hopefully going out on or before 9/20. So why did I pre-order even with no benchmarks and a huge price? Well I figure even if the card falls bellow expectation at the very least I can sell it for what I purchased it at if not more. Or if I totally change my mind I can just sell the card since cards are either sold out or pre orders are ETA October even November now. I checked this morning on EBAY and pre-order RTX 2080 Ti are being sold as high as $2000. Do I think someone will buy it for $2000? Probably not but living in NYC there are tons of rich and desperate people who could care less if the 2080 is only "x" times better than a GTX 1080 Ti and will pay anything to say they have it before anyone else. Not an Apple Fan (Youtube) makes the point that the 2080 Ti was really the only card that didn't take a step back spec wise barring the switch to DDR6, which is why in theory the 2080 Ti could be the only card that sees good increases, but hey also makes it clear that anyone paying $1200 for a graphics card is a moron lol
  20. Yeah I pre-ordered the EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC GAMING, 11G-P4-2382-KR and that is the 250W version for my Ncase M1 fir sizing concerns The fact that we are seeing a lot of triple fans designs could be heat related but and/or due to the fact that Nvidia launched a dual fan no blower style card, not wanting to be outdone in the same price range thus card members are making these massive 3 fan designs. Either way I do expect the 2080 Ti to be hotter but in an Ncase M1 I think it can be manageable however someone on Optimum Tech asked the same question as me but for a Dan Case. That system I think will have a much harder time keeping case temps down since basically 90% of builds use air coolers and it can have one case fan at most anyways.
  21. For anyone w/ a SFF system and is considering the RTX 2080 Ti for a SFX 600 W PSU: After plugging my theoretical system into https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator An i7 8700K, 16GB DDR4 Ram, 2 M.2 NVME, 1 92MM fan, 2 120MM fan, keyboard/mouse, 32"+ screen, 1 USB 2.0 device, 240MM AIO, and the RTX 2080 Ti w/ no overclock the calculator says my peak load should be 466 W, recommend PSU wattage 516 W, recommended PSU efficiency Bronze 80%. The PSU they recommended was a EVGA 600 W 80+ Bronze, which leaves me to believe that the Corsair SF600 Gold should be good to go. If you plan on overclocking than maybe an extra 50 W with the Evermax or SILVERSTONE SST-SX650-G 650W (Both Gold) might be a better option. I forgot my 2 M.2 are NVME so that brings load wattage up to 495 W, recommend PSU wattage 545 W, with the recommend PSU still be 600 W bronze, with this slight increase I would say at stock this still should be fine but for overclocking a 650 W or going to a SFX-L that can do 700+ W might be better if it can fit
  22. Jrasero

    RTX Performance?

    The more and more I think and read about it you are probably dead on. AMD is set for 2019 for 7nm and Nvidia'd hubris will not allow AMD to out shine them in any capacity. I think Nvidia feels RTX could be the nail in the coffin for AMD since in theory all the major game developers will be developing for RTX, but if AMD is able to put a good product and undercut Nvidia by a good margin, which shouldn't be hard then yeah I see Nvidia cutting prices on the RTX 20XX and even doing a revised 7nm that has increased performance in the more traditional sense. Plus you have intel in 2020 so yeah the more and more I talk about it I think I might cancel my pre order and keep my GTX 1080 Ti
  23. Well they have a shot in 2019 moving to 7nm as long as they perform well and undercuts Nvidia's insane pricing. Also Intel coming to the party might help.