Jrasero

I agree and very true but even with the 3900X being available now the price for most places is $30 to $80 still above MSRP. The only place to my knowledge that has it at MSRP is Microcenter and that is in store only and they previously had it at $600. Even if stock comes back in the projected 6 weeks I could see retailers asking for 5%-15% above retail $800-$875 easily That's why I said on reddit before launch MacMall's $872 preorder frankly was not out of line.

how much did you pay?

So here is the thing we celebrate when people fight to have the best prices like on sites on Amazon, with sellers sometimes taking razor thin margins, yet it's philosophically incorrect for that same person to make a healthier margin? On Ebay some people are asking $1500 for a 3950X and while that is a lot of a $750 chip this isn't oil or water we are talking about. No one needs a high core count computer chip so the morality dilemma of jacking up prices is mute to me. Also you would have to be an idiot to by that chip for that amount especially with Sky Lake readily available and the 3960X being $1400. At the end of the day you are the consumer and you have the right to buy or not buy whatever, no one is putting a gun to your head and saying buy this chip for $1000+, sure AMD needs to get supply up and it should have been more plentiful. Honestly I am even okay with with AMD not having stock for now, worked with Nvidia and the RTX 2080 ti. It's a halo product and if people want to fight over the cost and stock let then, it just adds to the hype and prestige of the product

Why is someone an asshole if they are trying to flip something for a profit? Supply and demand. I am sorry that not everyone cares about the "community" and not everyone is all about tech and gaming. I am never going to blame someone for hustling instead of sitting on their ass. Is it fair? probably not since AMD should have had better stock but maybe I am not jaded because I got a 3950X on launch. On the flip side I have been on the other end where I paid a premium to get a case that was sold out since I paid $350 for a $200 case. Insane for most people but for a lot of people anything more than a potato of a computer is insane waste of money. Either way the 3950X will come but if it's worth anything as a now former 3900X owner, the R9 3900X is still a really great high core count CPU that goes toe to toe with a Threadripper 2950X and is available for $500

on another posted I mentioned this to you about the 3950X going toe to toe with the upcoming 10980XE probably but at $250 less and on a consumer platform. If you need more PCIe lanes just wait for TR 3000. But as I remember you said your applications simply aren't optimized for AMD? Sad since the 3900 and 3950X are killer chips pre ordered a 3950X and I am putting it in a 13L NCase M1 w/ only a 240mm AIO since OptimumTech successfully did the same build, which is insane since my prior setup of a 18.5L Sliger Cerberus with a X399M 2950X could be barley be cooled with a custom loop. Which brings up another point, even if the 10980XE is the better chip marginally it requires a large socket HEDT motherboard and at least a 360 AIO or custom loop. For me personally I only build SFF so this automatically rules the chip out

Just transferred over my R9 3900X build from the Sliger Cerberus to my NCase M1 V6 cutting 5L from my setup! Ryzen 9 ROG Crosshair VIII Impact DTX Trident Z Neo DDR4 32GB 3600 HP 920EX 1TB Intel 660P 2TB EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC Ultra Corsair SF750 Corsair H100i RGB Platinum Noctua NF A9x14 PWM As a previous V5 owner I was pleasantly surprised with all the changes and I think they made the V6 100% worth it over the V5, baring that you can find either one at the moment. I am still a bit disappointed that NCase has not changed the frames black finish to something more robust since it still easily mares and while it's nice that the frame is light due to it being made out of aluminium, some of the pieces like the PSU bracket and parts of the frame flex with some pressure. Also like my V5 I got a unit that has some pretty noticeable panel gaps. For some reason with my 3 slot EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC Ultra I could only get 2 out of 3 support screws down and while I have seen builds with XC Ultra cards and slim 15mm fans beneath I was not able to do so. One of my biggest headaches hands down has been the Corsair H100i RGB Platinum. First it feels a bit cheap considering the price but when hooked up and paired with iCue software it constantly disconnects and reconnects having the fans ramp up and down. To my knowledge there is no fix to this at the moment. I tried running the AIO without software but the fans seem to be stuck at 2000+ RPM and are loud and when I try changing the settings in BIOS nothing happens. I think I am going to disconnect the USB and just run the fans directly to the MOBO and see if that helps. Or loose RGB and switch to my Noctua A12x25 fans. If I can score one I will be buying a 3950X and will sell my 3900X... It's pretty crazy that a year ago I had a Sliger Cerberus X399M 2950X 16 core in 18.5L and now with Ryzen 9 I am getting very similar performance out of a 12 core at a much more reasonable TDP on a consumer platform not needing custom cooling in a case 5L smaller. I hooked the ML120 RGB fans directly to the motherboard and the noise is much better. Also changed the ML fans to exhaust which helped with temps. The H100i RGB Platinum is a great cooler just it's overpriced and buggy AF. Maybe next time I would just use a Kraken X52 but the inclusion of ML 120 RGB fans is nice and the block on the Kraken while nice looking is pretty tall PICS IMG_0150.heic IMG_0151.heic IMG_0152.heic IMG_0153.heic IMG_0157.heic IMG_0163.heic

okay well a forum isn't going to break any news of that sort. Best of luck with your X299 build

So even if Threadripper 3000 is cheaper and it rips the pants off a XE part you would say, money means nothing?

if cost is not an option go Threadripper 3000

I mean even then it probably is a draw. Yeah you have a X299 board and Intel tends to overclock better but one a 3950X will still be much easier to cool and two the X570 platform will simply have a longer life in my opinion since it will be supported through 2021. 10nm won't be ready until 2022 so maybe they support x299 up until then but I doubt you will see any performance increases at all. TLDR X570 3950X is the better bang for your buck and Threadripper 3000 will kill Intel HEDT

so no release date as of yet but here is a leaked benchmark of the 3950X at stock speeds https://wccftech.com/amds-ryzen-9-3950x-cinebench-no-oc-score-achieves-a-32-performance-increase-over-1950x/ basically crushes a 1950X and is so close to a 9980XE that at $200 less MSRP compared to "next gen" and not needing a X299 mobo X570 and 3950X looks like the clear choice unless you have specific apps that favor Intel only

Multicore benchmarks Geekbench 3900X 12,553 pts higher Cinebench 3900X 1,884 pts higher Handbrake 3900X 18 seconds slower that's sizable or whatever you want to label the 3900X as BTW the 3900X in gaming is found to be only 5% slower on average (Hardware Unboxed). To get a better multi core chip and to buy into a platform that will have more life than Coffeelake and Z390 is huge. So unless you need quicksync, or your apps favor Intel, or you game at 1080P AMD this gen wins

an i9 9900K is the fastest gaming chip but falls way behind in multi core tasks compared to Ryzen 9, but the biggest concern for me is that the Z390 platform and i9 9900K in 2020 or whenever 10nm comes out will become non compatible with next gen. AMD has already stated that support up to 2020

yeah Cyberpunk 2077 will have to be dialed down but majority of AAA should be fine unless there is a huge wave of games that are ultra demanding, even then it's probably still good as a medium settings card

oh sorry I misread, I thought you said you had a 1070 Ti. but yeah a 1070 Ti will be fine for the foreseeable future

November but like TR and 3950X reviewers should have samples probably at the end of the month. Just remember there is no integrated graphics anymore and secondly the X299 platform is really long in the tooth. If you have Intel oriented apps then this is the best you can do at the moment, if not than a 3900X or soon to be 3950X is not only a better value but core vs core will be better than Intel. I just got a 3900X and it is faster than my previous 2950X while running much cooler.

$200 is a bit of stretch, sure a decent 2070 Super is $100-$130 more...

Both are great but I personally would go Intel since I only buy EVGA cards due to their customer service and transferable warranties. Secondly Nvidia tends to push out updates quicker and there are simply more third party cards compared to AMD

At 90hz probably a 2070 Super or 5700 XT but honestly I would probably upgrade to a 1440P 120+ HZ monitor before buying a new card.

I started off with a 1070 a few years back and was playing at 3440x1440 at 100Hz and it was great. Personally I would upgrade your monitor to a 1440P 120+ Hz panel over getting a new card. A 1070 Ti which is basically a GTX 1080 or RTX 2060 Super more or less

Currently I am running a X399M w/ a 2950X in a Sliger Cerberus SFF case with a EK Block and slim 27mm radiator. The processor and setup is probably fine for the foreseeable future but I like to be up on the latest tech. With the huge prices cuts for the Cascade Lake X lineup is it worth it to sell my X399M and 2950x and get a i9 10980XE? A new board would be anywhere from $250-$285 and I would need to either get a new block which is $99 or get an AIO for $100-$150. Is a i9 10980XE worth it over a 2950X? If I can sell my board and chip for $650 I would be paying around $1330 before tax or try and keep my X399M and hope that TR 3000 supports X399 and Asrock updates the BIOS and go next gen TR and sell my 2950X or do I simply do nothing?

I will admit that the fear of a leak from a self bit loop is present for me but on the other hand in my case there weren't any options for my Sliger Cerberus. The H115i is not full coverage and will require a separate adapter. Honestly a large air cooler would be better

Drain the system and flush the block well.

Your 1st mistake is building in that case. A few years ago I did an i7 8700K w/ a 120 AIO and a Hybrid GTX 1080 Ti with 120 AIO and it still was hot AF in there. Not worth it

I mean if you have a Noctua U14 TR4 you have the best TR4 cooler out there besides maybe a BeQuiet Dark Rock TR4. As a 2950X owner and someone who has gone through a Kraken X52 AIO, Enermax Liqtech II 240 TR4, Noctua U9 TR4, and now a custom loop on a measly EK SE240 slim 27mm radiator, hands down the best of those was the custom loop. So Asetek AIO don't cover the full chip by any means but handful of tests show if you are at least using a 280 AIO (preferably 360) if can handle any X chip within reason. If your case can fit then the U14 TR4 and Dark Rock TR4 are no brainers however they are quite bit and can come into conflict with other parts of your PC. I would avoid the Enermax Liqtech II TR4, I had it for two weeks and for the first week or so it was great but at the two week mark corrosion and temp spikes happened. By far the most expensive option but also the best performing is doing a custom loop. 16 Core 18L Custom Loop ThreadRipper Build