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I can tell you from first hand experience that the x299 platform is not the shitshow everyone thought it would be and many wanted it to be.  
 
Ryzen is a fine chip and can be had for cheaper, but there is no denying the performance Sky-X..
 
BTW, PCI-E raid works fine with x299 without a key.  I have 2 960 evo 500GB M.2s running raid zero as my boot drive.

You missed that part where I said that Ryzen doesn't effectively us AVX.  Therefore, if AMD reduced your ability to use it, your CPU will not get as hot in Prime95 with AVX because they've removed some of that option from you.  
 
I don't think you understand that that's actually not a good thing.  
 
 
You're intent was to cast a shadow on x299 while promoting AM4.  Then you ask someone to share their overclocking information when you weren't even prepared to do so yourself?  Then you asked me to do something that you weren't prepared to do yourself?
 
It's kind of hard to debate with guys like you because you cite what you've read or seen somewhere else on the internet instead of offering first hand experience.  I'm not hating though because it is the LTT way.  

OK,  you are running a 4.6ghz oc.  That answers one question, not exactly helping on temps while running a stress test or whether it's delidded. 
 
 

Speculation? More like common sense.
 
Ryzen CPUs hit a wall at 4 ghz and very few can hit 4.1 or 4.2. It makes very little sense then that threadripper can go any higher, especially seeing as amd hasn't said it's binned or anything, and even if it was binned the difference wouldn't be large enough to make up the difference to a 4.6 or 4.7 ghz 7800x.
 
Also, you marking my posts as just indicates your immaturity to me. I honestly don't even understand why you do it, all it does is increase the funny count on my profile so it helps me.

Not far behind.
 
There will be little that X99 can't handle, well. But by the time X99 can't handle something, neither will X299. They've both got a good life ahead of them.

While this platform is quite powerful, where will it be in two years? The 6950x is the end of the road for x-99, and while it is an exceptionally powerful platform, who knows what new technology, standards and software will be released that the aging platform will not be able to handle?

First off I use p95, max heat option  and I hit 75c on the stock cooler with shit case airflow 
 
When I have access to my PC again (no gpu rn) I'm totally willing to get real bench and run.  
 
Again I've literally never said X299 performs badly, obviously your chip that costs more than my entire PC is going to outperform my cpu...

I agree. X99 is still very viable and will be for years to come. Although the OP wants upgradeability which X299 will be best.

While certainly an upgrade option for 10C. I'd only consider Haswell-E for the hexa and octocores, since they clock a good deal better and IPC difference is like 1-3%, best case scenarios.

I'd definitely give consideration to a x99 option with the ability to upgrade to a 6950x.  Especially considering that used prices are dropping substantially on them!

It's actually 4.8 but HWInfo isn't reading clocks correctly. The 2nd score (2012) is at 4.7. No it's not delidded nor will I ever. Those were quick and dirty runs. I run 4.4 daily at 1.15v.

For what you can get now, the 7800X, unless you really benefit from having 8 cores (excluding AVX programs. Things like Adobe's program suite, Handbrake, H265 encoding), you'll be better served with the higher potential single core perfomance and additional PCIe lanes from the chipset (should the mainboard manufacturer not suck a dick at implementing them).
 
Also look at X99 chips like the 5930K, if they're going for a similar price where you live. They're still great chips, and there are hexacore options with lots of PCIe expansion capability if that tickles your pickle.

I haven't used Prime95 in years and don't plan on it because you're trying to prove a point about something you stated.
 
Besides that, if you run Prime95 with AVX on a Ryzen chip, it will not get hot because Ryzen doesn't effectively use AVX.  You're kinda asking me to do something that your Ryzen CPU can't even do.  
 
How about I run RealBench with 10 cores at whatever max clockspeed that your 8 core Ryzen 1700 is capable of?  It would still be harder with a 10 core, right?
 
As a matter of fact, we can both run it for 30 minutes at the same clockspeed and see who returns more hashes at better temps?

I have not once said anything about X299 but that it is a hot chipset.
 
Also, do you think der8auer and gamers nexus are clickbait?  GN shares literally everything they do, they are consistently fair and unbiased.
 
Also, please run a p95 test for a couple hours so we can see temps.
 
 

We're all of a sudden supposed to believe that everything is effectively coded for high core count CPUs and that's so far from the truth it's not even funny.  Buy a chip that has both high single and multi-threaded performance and you don't have to worry about it.

Reread what I said then and before then, both platforms benefit from higher bandwidth RAM. Most benches done with Ryzen are done with OC'd RAM because they recognize that it speeds everything up.

You're right. Core count is irrelevant if your single-threaded performance is no good, especially considering that today's triple A games only utilize 4 cores at most.

4.9 GHz at 1.255v.  Trust me, Skylake-X is fast.  I don't care what clickbait YouTubers are trying to say about it.  

It's been mentioned by several YouTubers and others in the Tech world that Ryzen CPUs benefit greatly from faster RAM.

Speaking of memory.  Check out this latest config that I'm currently testing.  Perfectly stable.
 
Please disregard my super high temps at 4.5 GHz as my fans are only running at half speed.  
 

 
 

Yeah, from everyone's posts it feels like X299 is the better bet in the long run especially with AMD splitting their platform for Threadripper. 
 
Thanks everyone for the input. It has been extremely helpful.

Those extra 24 from the chipset have to go through the DMI 3.0 interface which is 4 lanes of bandwidth (PCIe 3.0), 3.93GB/s. 24 lanes is 23.6GB/s so those 24 lanes might not be as useful as it appears depending on usage requirement.
 
A single NVMe on the chipset is going to almost fully utilize that bandwidth, only when being use of course, so anything else needing to use the DMI is going to be fighting for bandwidth too.
 
More lanes on the chipset is useful for motherboard designers and end user flexibility in the number of devices/slots that are on offer but they are not for high performance components like GPUs and multiple NVMe devices.

Yeah, from everyone's posts it feels like X299 is the better bet in the long run especially with AMD splitting their platform for Threadripper. 
 
Thanks everyone for the input. It has been extremely helpful.

X299 is probably going to give you better CPU upgrades than X370. Even after a Zen architecture refresh and what ever improvements come with that being able to go from a 6 core Intel to a 12-14 core Intel cheaply (ish) at a later date is easily going to out way those Zen improvements. Threadripper/X399 is a better comparison platform but will also be cheaper so you'll likely end up started with one of the higher core count parts anyway which leaves you waiting on architecture improvements again, we also have no idea what kind of performance it has to offer.
 
As for adding a second 1080 you may actually be better off completely replacing it with the current latest GPU if the performance has increased by 50% or more, SLI scaling and lack of dual GPU support for the majority of games etc.