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  1. I know I shouldn't be reviving a thread this old but I just couldn't keep myself from doing so. 8700K gets slaughtered in price to performance by the X5675. X5675 OC'd to 4.5 GHz on Air X5675 gaming benchmarks.
  2. Why do you keep on making it look like I am talking about general laptops here. This thread is about the Ryzen laptops Dell launched and their extremely bad prices and configurations compared to similar Intel laptops from Dell itself and Ryzen laptops from other companies. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-vega-laptops-hp-elitebook,36613.html Even folks at Tom's Hardware find it amusing that the prices are high and they don;t include SSDs. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/dell-inspiron-17-5000-amd-ryzen-vega,36612.html Here is a much superior product from HP at similar price with better specs. http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-envy-x360-convertible-laptop-15z-touch-1za07av-1 Acer's take - https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/NX.GV7AA.003 Lenovo too - https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-700-series/Ideapad-720S-13-AMD/p/88IP70S0929#tab-customize Not to forget ASUS's ROG with the Ryzen 7 1700 and RX 580. Its not the most practical laptop but hey, Asus tried and they made the fastest laptop in the world in terms of CPU power. Acer also has an upcoming Nitro 5 with the R7 2700U and RX 560. I don't see how Dell's stupid Ryzen models stack up in any way to the competition what with the pricing and specs. They sure as hell don't make such mistakes when it comes to Intel based laptops.
  3. Exactly my question, how do companies like HP, Lenovo, ASUS and Acer manage to look out for themselves while providing all the features and Dell does not? No wonder HP and Lenovo are on top. Dell is up there only because of its business lineup and tieups with governments. When it comes to general consumer laptops, HP, Lenovo, Acer and Asus are the best. God knows how Dell managed the 7567.
  4. Well for the industry's sake, I hope it doesn't. As a consumer, I don't see why anyone should choose this Dell product over other Ryzen laptops. I think it will because as an informed user, I can see where this product is gonna land. No SSDs, uneven memory channel config, high prices, 17" models only. Dell is doing everything it can to make AMD CPUs look like crap here.
  5. How do comments like these even make sense? You said they invest millions of dollars in research, I quoted an example of a failed research such as these laptops. And I said it seemed fishy because other comapnies have better products at same prices, Intel counterparts have better specifications at lower prices. Where do I even come into the picture of success?
  6. I am pretty sure you haven't read the article at all. I am pretty sure you got a lot of Dell products at home with the way you are pissed off about Dell getting the hate here. Wanna know a secret? I am on a Dell laptop too right now. I see you don't have anything constructive to add or say so I'll refrain from replying to your comments now.
  7. Social media kids these days. Have got more useful stuff to do. I don't come here to get triggered by you kids. Long past that age. More meaningful stuff to read here and learn rather than sling mud others. Need free advice? Learn to engage in meaningful conversations rather than post such silly comments.
  8. Me a fanboy? I have a IT store and I am an engineering undergrad in Electronics. I know more about what the underlying silicons in Intel and AMD do. I sell more Intel than I do AMD and I have more Intel than I do AMD at my house. I dunno how you come to such conclusions, must be the rocket science you guys learn in kindergarden, but if Acer and HP and Lenovo can make decent R5 2500U based laptops for the price Dell makes an R3 based, there is clearly something wrong here. I don't think you even know what the whole issue is all about and just came here to profess your I am no fanboy logic while clearly showing you support companies which accept billions of dollars in rebates from Intel to make sure AMD doesn't get a chance. If HP, Acer or Lenovo do so, at least they are half decent and make half decent products based on AMD, not blatant biased products like these. As to what you buy, is your personal choice but from the kind of words you type, I clearly see you are much into monopoly and against any kind of competition. Peace bro, everyone's out to make money. The others are doing it as well and making more than Dell makes without the BS that Dell needs to. There is a reason Dell doesn't sell as much laptops or are remembered for anything good.
  9. If laptops like these are going to make money and if Dell believes they will be able to sell these and make money, IMO Dell is shittiest company with the shittiest marketing plan and product research and are just behaving like a kid out to make money by hook or crook. If millions of dollars of research gets us products like these, I think the Intel counterparts must require somewhere in the billions and extremely popular 7567 must have needed trillions in its research to make such a perfect gaming laptop.
  10. If the i5 8250U isn't an(extremely bad) alternative to the R5 2500U and the i7 8550U isn't an (okay) alternative to the R7 2700U, then I don't know what is. The issue isn't whats high end and whats not, its the specifications and prices which Dell is charging for these laptops.
  11. A Ryzen APU laptop is high end? Then what is a Ryzen vanilla laptop, HEDT?
  12. Well, Dell's in it too and Michael ain't my brother-in-law. If a company can go ahead with such practices, I can go ahead with my hate as well. I know all about the previous fiasco and the OEMs were equally guilty in my opinion. If this is happening today, they are guilty as well.
  13. I don't know where you find me talking about Alienware laptops or their price considering the fact that you brought up the Area 51(a desktop) in the first place. The original post was about Dell's worthless new Ryzen laptops, not their desktops or their Alienware laptops.
  14. Performance models haven't been released yet and OEMs are not utilizing AMD's configurable TDP at all. So right now, AMD's U series are competing with Intel's U series only.
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