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Still can't believe AMD's managed to play catch-up after having inferior architectures and CPU for nearly a decade. Even with their low R&D budget.

@Sauron is that you?

Can we just sit back for a moment and appreciate the fact that on top of the core count, PCIe lanes, solder, and power efficiency, AMD is even using more expensive packaging than Intel and still charging significantly less?
 
Oh, and...
 
Actually...
 
 

-Lisa: I want to send a subtle message to intel.
 
-PR team: Say no more fam:
 

I'm officially slightly more interested in the packaging than the CPU now.

HEDT is a low-volume part, for sure, but they're used in the "enthusiast" circles quite a lot. And some of us *do* have use for these platforms, so we're really curious. Until 3 weeks from now, your only option is still Intel, as it has been for the last decade.

With how tight AMD is planning to iterate, it's possible we get AM4+ to get the full features of Zen2, but Zen3 is supposed to be hot on the heels of Zen2. We'll see, as AMD has quite a tight roadmap for the next 4 years.

Im praying with all of you anti miners! 

when uninstalling pre drivers try looking in ur registry for left overs

I like people testing with low end stuff. All of the high end stuff gets samey after a while.

Pure gaming focussed upon ur information id say get an i7 k version 4cores over 8threads and oc it a little. Best pick would be 7700k in this case even on ur 1440p. Ryzen 1700 would do too. However prepare for that you will lose a bit of fps compared to 7700k (no drama drop 5-10%) and older games like single threads, so if youre some CSGO fan than i would also go for 7700k or any strong i7 4/8. Since ryzen also has memory related problems, you can stay on your older stuff/setup by going for intel here. I feel that your aiming towards gaming and this is what is the current best situation for that. Unless youre like me and want a better chip like ryzen 1700 at the cost of some fps due of higher frequenty on the 7700k vs all other win claims on ryzens side. Also if you can wait till august or the end of august i bet the prices will be much nicer for you, looool and all of us too! AMD will release threadripper and vega and intel will release the more cored chips. All in this year!

I'd advise against getting the 1700x or 1800x. Get the 1700. Comes with a cooler and has the exact same specs aside from out-of-the-box clock speeds. You can overclock it and get identical performance to a 1800x for half the price and a free cpu cooler at the cost of having to do some bios tinkering for the overclock.

7700k dont listen to all them ryzen boys out there. You can also find coolers easily

OP, you have to understand that your original question isn't complete. While people may like blanket statements (like "get CPU X to do Y"), not all gaming is created equal: which GPU and which monitor you are going to use matters as well. To a first approximation, you could say the best gaming CPU is the cheapest CPU that allows the GPU you are going to buy/already have to work at its full potential.
The problem is, you may have the best GPU and therefore get the fastest CPU in most games (it is important to notice that results vary from game to game), and still none will work at 100% because your monitor is 1080p 60Hz. I mean, technically you can get them to 100% by generating 1200 FPS that will never be displayed and enjoy the tear fest, but if the idea is to enjoy the experience then they will be idling a lot  
 
So, bottom line: what you need to consider instead is which CPU is the best for the gaming you are going to do, including not just the titles you are going to play, but especially the monitor (i.e., the resolution and refresh rate) you are going to use, and the GPU that you are going to pair it with.
For example, The Witcher 3 in 1440p 144Hz with a GTX 1080ti will be best served by an overclocked 7700K. But if you are playing the new Doom at 1080p with an RX 470, everythign beyond a 1600 is wasting your money, and probably even that is overkill. Hell, even at 120Hz you are still fine with almost anything  

That's not how tearing works. Your eyes have nothign to do, as you are not changing the speed of what you show to them: it is still 60 FPS. The only problem is that each frame will be a combination of pieces of different frames, and pushing FPS like crazy will only make it worse, not better.
 
It truly seems you haven't read my post. Or maybe you are just not replying to it in this part  

Another AMD fanboy on damage control 
 

It is the same chip, only xfr isn't present. Like I said, my 1700 clocks just shy of 4.1ghz, 1800x won't do anymore (or very rarely) more than that it isn't worth the extra money 

Dont get the 3Gb 1060, get the 6Gb or 480/580 if you can find one. Also get R5 instead of an i5, much better. But to answer your question, a motherboard can not be overkill. It does not affect performance, but rather the features available. So just get which ever is the cheapest that has all you want. 

Sorry for the late reply. Get a board that has all the features on it that you want but don't go overboard on stuff you don't need. Like you probably don't need 8 ram slots if your using an i5 7500. The msi b250 pcmate looks like a good board and with the extra money you could upgrade something else but I also have to agree with @nerdslayer1 because right now i5's are just really not worth it.

Wait hold on, i never said its worth the money over a 1700 tho. So yes i would suggest 1700 over 1800x in this case, and any gamer/oc'er who need to pick.

That kit has only two sticks, and 2 x dual rank should be better than 4 x single rank. It is also a bit cheaper in Hungary.
 
It is also not the end of the world for me if I can't get the RAM speed over let's say 2933 MHz right now. I need 32 GB RAM for my virtual machines, so I can't use just a 16 GB kit. I also read that upgrading kits won't always work, so it is better to get all the RAM in one kit. I am not sure if this info is true for Ryzen, it was supposed to be true for Intel, especially with the faster kits.

I'm running B-die ram and the new (beta for now) bios update allows me to go to 3600 at 2t on the C6H. 32 gigs across 4 sticks, without touching the BCLK. 
 
Flare X seems to be the best bet for price vs performance on Ryzen at the moment though. 
 
From an anecdotal standpoint, I haven't had any issues with my board or ram that can't be attributed to a brand new platform. I haven't had to RMA the board and everything works great. On C6H you can push BCLK to 105 and still maintain full IO. Anything above will downgrade it.
 
Edit: Apparently I am running B-die ram. The old stuff I replaced was non B-die so my bad on that. Still can't get it to run at the full 4266 though, even on 2 sticks.

Gotta admit, part of the reason that made me pick the Gaming 5 is the color scheme I fckn love this interpretation of black and white 

I don't think that's how things work, this is a GPU that's too powerful for 1080p which means that CPU is the bottleneck, when gtx 1080 becomes gtx 2060 then GPU will be the bottleneck.

Yup agreed!! 
App has the 1700x I have the 1700 and managed and extra 100mgz oc on mine 
 
ch6 is an amazing board and allows for pstate oc which 
@tom_w141 
has an amazing guide for