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Yes the i5 8600k is superior to the i7 7700k at gaming.

when uninstalling pre drivers try looking in ur registry for left overs

Personally stepping up to 144hz on 1440p i would spin up 7700k on a 1080 or ti. I assume you run 1080p, in that case i wouldnt worry that much. Like the people here say: test newer games on your system run high graphic settings and scan your fps (notice that fps meters lower your fps a little too), now you want to obv use those hz of that monitor so you wanna be above 80hz minimum (prefer 100+) which means you need a steady 80fps atleasr to enjoy the most hz out of that monitor. If you happen to dip back a little just see if its because of the 1060 or your cpu (on 1080p 1060 should do nice tho). Higher resolutions ask for more gpu demands as in moving away from your cpu bottleneck. However bottlenecks are relevant, and in your case you dont wanna neck below 100fps average. For example: you could run 4k on a lower clocked quad or dual core on gtx1080(ti) but tbose processors will neck your fps around 30-70 and you would need a faster and more headroom(cores, also depending on the development of the game) cpu like a r7 but even better an i7 8 threaded beast of a game cpu like 7700k to raise that fps as far as the gpu can handle. Just measure your system on high demanding graphics on the max resolution and that will tell you if you need a new cpu or a stronger gpu. 

Depends on how well the cards scale in SLI in the particular games.

+1, reset your settings. After removing cmos do a no powered (power not connected+no battery) butto reset. You hold your powerbutton for 15 secs to suck out all of the power left in the circuits, im not that fan of an hour waiting unless it is a bus to a vacation spot.
 

Sli is not standard with all games maybe 10% of em. Indeed try running all the same with 1 card and note the fps and compare them. See where you notice a diff. Optimisation is indeed the problem here, though i secretly wonder how much the 7700k would push out of this! Update your tests please, i predict a drop in Arma 3 on that and a minore one in the division as result of optimisation on sli being different. Heck i think a single well cooled 1080ti would allready spin alot of your games 35-70 on 4k.
 
Goodluck, jeez a 4k pc i dream of such overkilling for my home front! Nice....

Well its simple. 4k on 60hz refresh means it flickers 60 frames per second. So even if you have 5000 fps your display will only output 60 frames per second anyway. With this theory and real time proof you can just hook up a very cheap cpu (wouldnt advice tho) to a 1080ti as long as the cpu pushes 60fps ur good on 4k as 4k is very gpu demanding at these ages. And yes sadly we live in a 200 fps i need 999 fps guy on my 1080p time lol and the overkills i see. The dunking on chips like ryzen is also sad, its a good chip ffs...ok im getting really off topic.

You'd be surprised how much FPS you get back just by dropping one single resolution to 3200x1800p or similar...
4K is a different beast compared to 1440p-1800p, and as stated, Games being Games, varied budgets/developers, not equal and all that.......games are not made for 4K as a standard yet.
 
You still have a beast of a RIG, but your ahead of the Optimization/4K progression that should have happened a long time ago.

?????? Pokemon go, what a failer!

I was hopping around on youtube and replied on alot of em (im such a girl sometimes). There is alot of mistaking by people who think Ryzen bottle necks for example the 1080ti. Ryzen is at 25% cpu usage where 7700k is at 60%. Ryzen has more headroom and 7700k will fail in the future is what i hear or the other way around....people lost it!

Aimed pure gaming wise this is not really the truth. I copied a reply from my Youtube to here just cause I had some nerdgasms coming up.
 
So first here are some shout outs by ppl commenting on a youtube video:
 
They're saying the 7700k will bottleneck sooner, as when the 7700k hits 100% the AMD CPU will be at 75%-85%, not sure if that is a factor to consider yet though as i'm not sure when we will be seeing a 7700k hit 100% and i don't think it will be very soon but its still a valid point nonetheless and one that should be talked about.
 
jesus those cpu usage numbers are not a good sign for the intel longevity even if it is slightly faster.
 
the AMD chip is always 15 to 25% lower usage on average it indicates that the intel chip will probably it cpu bottleneck first.
 
compared to ryzen 25%, it will botteneck much sooner.
 
But ryzen is basicly bottlenecking already because it's get lower fps with same graphics card compared to 7700k
 
7700k will bottleneck sooner? Ryzen is already bottleneck compared to 7700k.
 
(I laughed my ass off on this one)
7700k is bottleneck. let me explain it in analog way. suppose you have only one hand and can please 2 girls with a hand because you are quick and Joe also can but not as fast as you and the difference is he has 2 hands... and the rule is 2 girls by hand, but when there are 4 girls....... Joe can please them and you can´t.
 
Ryzen runs the games at 25-30% CPU load, while performing on par with the higher clocked 7700K. Truly impressive.
 
Anyway after alot more of these I decided to finally reply (edited a little):

It is only cause of the 2x 4 cored (glued) chips that percentages show this way. So if there is no game optimisation for more than 4 threads, than when 7700k is 100% the ryzen will be 50% (example) but keep in mind the other 50% of Ryzens cpu will not be used at all for that game. And instead it will be used just for other things like your OS and CO. . Therefor the ryzen will be equally (even faster, due of lower clock speed) maxed out in such terms. Ryzen is not bottlenecking like people think but just slightly lower clocked +/- 1ghz to the 7700k. Either way, if you look at it Ryzen has alot of head room (other 8 threads) to let anything out of the game not interfere within the cores that the game is spinning on, and so it will use 4 cores for that work (8threads) which prevents hickups that the 7700k would surely have when using more programs. Cause 8 threads still doesnt make 8 cores but it keeps at 4 physical. So in the end you could say 7700k is getting old, strong but old. 8 cores can simply handle more pressure overall than 4 physicals.
 
This is the reason why I LMAO on the Analog Explanation about the 2-4 girls. On which i replied that what if those other girls were 2 man, than it would be about developping and the coding of the game (in his term 2 man, UHM girls, uhm whatever)
 
Thanks for the moment of time

rofl cupcake
 
Yes the r5 1600 is an awesome chip for the price, you couldnt be unhappy with that price/performance ... actually i think it might be one of the best price/performance deals you can make atm when aiming to OC the 1600 obv. 

CHILL!

Will check asap took a vacation meanwhile brt in 10 min  this makes me even more curious! What a tease.

I was hopping around on youtube and replied on alot of em (im such a girl sometimes). There is alot of mistaking by people who think Ryzen bottle necks for example the 1080ti. Ryzen is at 25% cpu usage where 7700k is at 60%. Ryzen has more headroom and 7700k will fail in the future is what i hear or the other way around....people lost it!

Aimed pure gaming wise this is not really the truth. I copied a reply from my Youtube to here just cause I had some nerdgasms coming up.
 
So first here are some shout outs by ppl commenting on a youtube video:
 
They're saying the 7700k will bottleneck sooner, as when the 7700k hits 100% the AMD CPU will be at 75%-85%, not sure if that is a factor to consider yet though as i'm not sure when we will be seeing a 7700k hit 100% and i don't think it will be very soon but its still a valid point nonetheless and one that should be talked about.
 
jesus those cpu usage numbers are not a good sign for the intel longevity even if it is slightly faster.
 
the AMD chip is always 15 to 25% lower usage on average it indicates that the intel chip will probably it cpu bottleneck first.
 
compared to ryzen 25%, it will botteneck much sooner.
 
But ryzen is basicly bottlenecking already because it's get lower fps with same graphics card compared to 7700k
 
7700k will bottleneck sooner? Ryzen is already bottleneck compared to 7700k.
 
(I laughed my ass off on this one)
7700k is bottleneck. let me explain it in analog way. suppose you have only one hand and can please 2 girls with a hand because you are quick and Joe also can but not as fast as you and the difference is he has 2 hands... and the rule is 2 girls by hand, but when there are 4 girls....... Joe can please them and you can´t.
 
Ryzen runs the games at 25-30% CPU load, while performing on par with the higher clocked 7700K. Truly impressive.
 
Anyway after alot more of these I decided to finally reply (edited a little):

It is only cause of the 2x 4 cored (glued) chips that percentages show this way. So if there is no game optimisation for more than 4 threads, than when 7700k is 100% the ryzen will be 50% (example) but keep in mind the other 50% of Ryzens cpu will not be used at all for that game. And instead it will be used just for other things like your OS and CO. . Therefor the ryzen will be equally (even faster, due of lower clock speed) maxed out in such terms. Ryzen is not bottlenecking like people think but just slightly lower clocked +/- 1ghz to the 7700k. Either way, if you look at it Ryzen has alot of head room (other 8 threads) to let anything out of the game not interfere within the cores that the game is spinning on, and so it will use 4 cores for that work (8threads) which prevents hickups that the 7700k would surely have when using more programs. Cause 8 threads still doesnt make 8 cores but it keeps at 4 physical. So in the end you could say 7700k is getting old, strong but old. 8 cores can simply handle more pressure overall than 4 physicals.
 
This is the reason why I LMAO on the Analog Explanation about the 2-4 girls. On which i replied that what if those other girls were 2 man, than it would be about developping and the coding of the game (in his term 2 man, UHM girls, uhm whatever)
 
Thanks for the moment of time

You can use my first build without Windows and slap in a NEW GTX 1050 ti.
That means no second hand at all

Low CPU usage doesn't mean that the CPU is not a bottleneck. For example if a game can only use 2 threads, a 3GHz 5960X would be at 10% CPU usage or something like that and a 5GHz 7700K would be at 25% CPU usage.
 
But because this game can only use 2 threads, the 7700K bottleneck the GPU less than the 5960X.

I don't know if i'll bother you are pretty dense. I remember you having similar issues understanding how gpus worked in a similar thread a few months ago

I honestly can't see Volta launching this year. It's not impossible but i don't think Vega will be enough of a threat to push the launch from my current guess of CES 2018

Temps? Kabylake does have major thermal issues (So much so that Intel advises owners not to OC), dont think there is alot you can do other than de-lidding it (Can drops temps up to 30c). 

Going any less than the G4560 is sadly really punishing
I mean it is a dual core.. But the HT really does it.

I made this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HBnJ4C. It's about $100 higher than your budget but I think it's worth it.
 
It's similar to @MVPernula 's build but I swapped the 6-core for a 4-core (makes more sense on a budget build) and also swapped the memory to a kit running at 2400mhz and the PSU to a Gold rated one instead of bronze, because the prices were almost exactly the same so why not? (oh and it has a graphics card as well)

LMFAO are you high man?! This makes less sense than your usual posts.

Need help?

If thats the actual box that you buy it in then I really like it, it looks so fluffy, and protective (the main thing) meaning it's unlikely that the postman who doesn't understand the word "fragile" and "handle with care" and has literally chucked things with those words into my porch, it might mean if I get one it will arrive in one piece

Pffft this 80's design looks sooo much better:

 
/SARCASM!!!111ONEone