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Ugh i didnt read everything sorry bout previous post. Whats your rig?? Tat ram wont help ur streaming, a faster hd would do that better than what u try right now. Not that you should do that either tho. Sooo yeh post your rig please.

Best is without a doubt the exact same spec build and number. Next thing tho....why do u need 32 gb what is ur reason for this? Also running on 2x8 woulda been slightly better in the first place. 32gb is ALOT of ram and you really need a good reason to use that....

Id slap in a r5 1600(oc) + asus prime plus. Tho i heard ryzen is a doomed memory struggler so check the qlv. Its a fairly "good" cheap board. Your real upgrade is prob a 8600(k) but those darn boards.....8400 is also a real good chip, wouldntgo for 8100....

Thats a good price for all that.

2200-3000

Hmm id still go all new with a 385 budget.

Yes or something like that, depending on his needs. That kind of money can get u new stuff lolz

Im sure with 300$ and a 85-90 u can slap in a brand new 1700(oc it)(comes with cooler) into a b350 or cheap x370. No clue why u would use a delid used 7700k in my case.... Lemmi ask you. What do you do on your pc mostly? What game names and or program names. Prices dropped alot and you can probably buy anything new and good for that money instead of used stuff. What will your set up be? Can you post ur rig?

Can you enter your bios with readable text?

Theres probably 2-5% difference in those streaming powers 8600k vs r7 , this i5 is secretly hiding i7 with 6 cores man wth

Dont listen to the throw mouths saying blabla 7700, no...not even at streaming. To me the new king is the i5 8600k oced, its in anyway faster than the 7700k oced. 8700k only adds cores for more workload. 8600k is you way to go, and if you wanna cheap out ur next best thing might be a 1600(x). You can easy oc an 8600k above 4,5ghz with a low cost AIO. Most of em hit 5ghz without any crashes. Dunno bout that heat tho (at 4,8ghz+)

1050 ti, 1060, is enough for 1080p far above 60.

Either will be good. Id also prefer 1700(oced). Pure gaming on 1080p 7700k will always win. That said its only a minor difference. Ryzen has problems (they became far less) with accepting ram. Do you plan to OC? Whats your gpu? Whats your final monitor resoultion and frequency? How many average FPS do you demand for gaming?

I never said it was not one die i even put glued between ( ) as it still works like a glued one, the only way to ramp up ryzen is to add faster and faster ram.

when uninstalling pre drivers try looking in ur registry for left overs

i bet all those reacted here wouldnt even buy it, unles you have some home business workstation need. I wouldnt buy it either but looks awesome indeed, earth to ryzen!

Yes thats the point of all this, the lower % is measured due of threads not being able to be ever used cause the program is not programmed to use em that way (as in lets say 4 core max). I agree there with you but yet you need to look at it different. 7700k on a 100% is most certainly maxed out, that game is not garbage cause if you would lift up more demands from the GPU like a higher resolution or AA (the resolution doesnt really add demand for the gpu power but the new images in it do, it must render more) than it will be used less due of a higher gpu demand it can work slower (the cpu). The way you could put more workload on gpus is when you would go near the max of our consumer-techs and play on a resolution like 4k or 8k. This way the GPU must work so hard that it is easier for the cpu to catch up. Where as if you drop resolutions and or gpu settings, the gpu works less hard and has its work ready everytime demanding more of the cpu's respond to catch up with the gpu's finished cycles this is why cpu benchmarks are hold on low(er) resolutions (in the earlier years you used alot lower resolution but our gpus are fricking strong atm). However on such high rdemanding 4k 8k res's the demanding from the GPU is so high that it can barely even push above 40-70 fps or whatever the case is with the card you use, and you dont need a 7700k to support 40-70 fps. Yes i wonder if such a technique is possible to say (and i even thought about this in weird situation), take away prosessors as a part of a GPU's cycle. And invent something like the ultimate IGPU Gaming Machine/Card/Pc ? Exactly like you say, put all work on a GPU (visualwise). Problem is there are chips for visual math and chips for REAL math aka Processor and those two work different, and your cpu is the heart of your pc....everything that happens must pass it it gets signaled heck why IPC is so important.

LOL ...... it makes perfect sense omg you dont see?

Did you change things in your bios Ranz? Try what he says too, in your bios you can set your display output to onboard gfx do so while u launch up ur pc with the gtx in too and from there u delete/reinstall/rollback drivers. Do you have enough PSU power?

Im praying with all of you anti miners!

Fun run 2 (see you in hell)

Good idea i hope its not the worst for you

You Dare!! if I were you id put on some armor lol get ready to be stoned! wait what STONED? hmm either way...run!

Yes it what im trying to explain to people. That the program, in this case a game, works only to what it is optimised for. And indeed will show a higher % on 7700k in ur case cause it looks at the max cores you own. After that the speed is the fps pusher, so the 7700k will pump more speed to keep the gpu satisfied than the 5960X. But it would also be less bottlenecked for the 5960X if the game allowed 4 threads or more. Nice saying just diff chips. Edit: BUT WHAT IF, you wanna spin that same game 20x so basicly 20 games open? Than the story of the bottlenecks become different. sorry i had to edit it

Goodluck with that. Ill be waiting