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    Jurrunio got a reaction from miguelusho in Motherboard VRM Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)   
    Credit to: @LukeSavenije
     
    The following list is based on facts, ranked on power delivery and known problems. The list will include boards that support CPU overclocking available at retail from different brands.
     
    There are still differences in performance among boards of the same tier. As a result, those that barely made it into that tier will be in orange while those that are better than others in the same tier are in blue. Unless specified, boards sharing the same name and chipset in different form factors are ranked the same.
     
    For advanced users: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Smj5dh97n32wJqm5dkdDcQt8ID7vH52-lKzaaXUUQx8/edit?usp=sharing
     
    AMD
     
    All current draw figures are based on Prime95 small FFT with AVX unless otherwise specified, in other words the worst case scenario.
     
    Only often recommended sku of CPUs in the same generation and core/thread count configuration is named, others share the same rating.
     
    Zen scales down frequency and voltage according to EDC (current limit) and TDC (thermal limit) settings of the motherboard so in theory you won’t cook the VRM of any board at stock, you just lose frequency.
     
    For tier A and above, due to lack of feasible CPUs that allow testing of the boards at higher current ratings, there are some level on guessing in terms of how much more power the VRM can take.
     
    AM4 (Athlon, Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7, Ryzen 9)
     
    B550 and X570S Speculation: If you cant find the board above, then it should be here. If it's already up there, then ignore what it's placed here
     
    TR4 (Ryzen Threadripper 1xxx and 2xxx) X399
     
    sTRX4 (Ryzen Threadripper 3xxx) TRX40 (largely guessing since there's little data)
     
    Sources:
     
    Legacy list thread: Those looking to dive into Intel's outdated process node and recycled (for many times) architecture please refer to the old list
     
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from Waderem in CPU vs GPU oriented games   
    I think they are all too light for new hardware to be put into either category
     
    By looking at the average of many games we can get an idea of what a balanced system would look like. If some games hit the bottleneck on either side first on a balanced system, then we call that CPU or GPU bound. 
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from problemsolver in Why does my new system suck compared to my old one?   
    How did you check system latency in the first place? Besides I doubt you can feel the difference between tens of milliseconds without using electronics of some sort so it doesn't matter in the real world. What does matter are things that take seconds, minutes if not hours to occur, say playing a video game. That's where the gains are
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from Needfuldoer in Dell Inspiron 620. No post with new graphics card   
    what about the display outputs you used before putting the graphics card in?
     
    Some of these prebuilts only have 25w power capability to the PCIe slot (essentially a x16 slot wired like an x4) so a card expected 75w wouldnt run
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from Ryker Robb in Should I use a m.2 to sata or just an ssd   
    SATA could mean two things, the name of a port and name of a data transfer standard. Your SATA port on the laptop only accepts SATA transfer standard, an M.2 to SATA adapter only changes the port but not the transfer standard because M.2 port can take either SATA or NVMe transfer standard. This means if you buy an NVMe SSD and use the adapter, your laptop simply would not read the SSD. A M.2 SATA SSD + adapter would work, but that's extra cost for no performance benefit
     
    So dont bother with NVMe or an adapter, just use a 2.5" SATA SSD.
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from RevGAM in would you ever buy nivida gpu 4095   
    Name of the stuff doesn't matter, what it gains does. Problem is the 4090 almost has the entire die enabled already, there's hardly any room for gains unless they introduce new silicon which is already too late down the product cycle for a flagship. It just makes way more sense to wait for the next generation.
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from Poinkachu in would you ever buy nivida gpu 4095   
    Name of the stuff doesn't matter, what it gains does. Problem is the 4090 almost has the entire die enabled already, there's hardly any room for gains unless they introduce new silicon which is already too late down the product cycle for a flagship. It just makes way more sense to wait for the next generation.
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from Eigenvektor in would you ever buy nivida gpu 4095   
    Name of the stuff doesn't matter, what it gains does. Problem is the 4090 almost has the entire die enabled already, there's hardly any room for gains unless they introduce new silicon which is already too late down the product cycle for a flagship. It just makes way more sense to wait for the next generation.
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from PlusOneKeigan in Nvlddmkm 3070TI   
    Did you use DDU to uninstall the AMD video driver before installing the Nvidia video driver?
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from lerodemmy in I’m really confused about where to install M.2 on Strix Z790-E   
    Preferably the top. The other slots connect to the chipset which limits bandwidth and increases latency. 
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from lerodemmy in I’m really confused about where to install M.2 on Strix Z790-E   
    If you're not using a PCIe 5 SSD, just use M2_2
     
    LGA 1700 CPUs support up to 16 lanes of PCIe 5 and 4 lanes of PCIe 4, usually the former for a PCIe x16 slot and the latter for an M.2 slot. Therefore to provide a PCIe 5 M.2 slot, it's necessary to split what the PCIe x16 slot gets. PCIe can only split in half, so it has to be x8 + x4 rather than x12 + x4
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from Erioch in Pronunciation Pronouncements   
    So you pronounce "oscillate" without the c?
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    Jurrunio reacted to Beerzerker in Website causes gaming PC CPU to reach +95c and 80% utilization when visiting specific website   
    Could be a website that's recruiting your machine into crypto mining or something else similar to that - It's happened before with the same symptoms you describe.

    In any case I'd not visit that site again - Problem solved, at least with that particular site.
     
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from da na in Did I fry my laptop!?   
    It's just thermal throttling heavy enough to be noticed. Not fry.
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from jhogan93 in Overclocking my AMD R9 7950x   
    There's not much reason to overclock Zen 4 because they are pretty maxed out from the factory, undervolt instead. Or if you do want more performance, focus on tuning up your memory sticks.
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from GuiltySpark_ in Overclocking my AMD R9 7950x   
    There's not much reason to overclock Zen 4 because they are pretty maxed out from the factory, undervolt instead. Or if you do want more performance, focus on tuning up your memory sticks.
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from abux in Upgrading to 3080+   
    the power supply won't hold it, it should be 750w minimum. Also refer to the PSU tier list for at least tier B units
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from RONOTHAN## in Does anyone have information on this motherboard?   
    i.e. he sold you a prototype. This is most likely one of the older Gaming 7 design that was then deemed not good enough.
     
    As for the boot loop, are you using a newer LGA2066 CPU? Since it's a prototype, it likely only supports the first bunch of X299 CPUs released like the i9-7900X.
     
    Q2'17 ones are more likely to work than Q3'17 ones, pretty sure not newer X299 CPUs than these
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from Hinjima in Upgrading to 3080+   
    the power supply won't hold it, it should be 750w minimum. Also refer to the PSU tier list for at least tier B units
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from Poinkachu in Little confused with PWM stuff   
    Your direction feels wrong, when a CPU overheats hard it usually means the cooler is failing its job completely. Say the pump of an AIO died, or the thermal paste has dried out. Doubling fan speeds of already not-slow fans would not help enough to turn a "really freaking hot" CPU into a cool CPU, at best it will last a bit longer before crashing.
     
    PWM controls fans based on %, regardless of the actual max RPM of the fans. 3pin fans on a 4pin connector will just run 100% all the time. If you don't care about noise, honestly I don't see that as a reason to not try max fan speeds all the time first and see if the problem goes away. 3000RPM fans are just as loud at similar RPMs to slower fans anyways.
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from Doll in Lenovo Ideapad Slim 3 (15IRU8) review   
    Bought one for my brother's entry into university, so I might as well take the chance to review it (also my first experience on Windows 11).
     
    Build
    I'll give it an 8/10. The top and keyboard faces are metallic and smooth but the Lenovo badge on the keyboard face is somewhat unnecessary. The bottom and display faces are plastic with a frosted texture, I prefer this over having all metallic because it provides better grip imo. Bezel width is reasonable, thin enough but not on par with smartphones these days.
    Camera is clear enough and it has a mechanical shutter that will block the lens off for security needs.
    Chassis flex is minor, it can flex a bit but I'd put it closer to the "sturdy" side than the "flimsy" side.
    It has backlit keyboard, but the light only goes around the keycap without showing the writings on them so it's imo rather useless.
     
    Display and Sound
    I'll give it a 7/10. The resolution (1080p) is totally fine for its 15.6" size while 60Hz refresh rate, unspectacular colours and no-HDR is standard for a paperwork device like this. The brightness is sufficient at max when it's super sunny outside and I'm in a room with the only window facing away from the sun, but I don't think it will be enough when extra sunlight comes in from the sides and especially not for outdoors in the shade.
    The sound is clear but limited in "vocal range" to the point of distorting human speech, if that makes sense. Just like many cheaper Windows laptops, get yourself a good set of headphones if you're looking for quality.
    Overall, no surprises.
     
    Internals (no disassembly sry)
    My model comes with an i5-1335U, 2x8GB LPDDR5-4800 and a 512GB SSD. The factory's SSD model is sadly unknown because I opt for a 1TB upgrade, which turns out to be a WD SN350 1TB QLC NVMe SSD. Not the SSD I would buy myself (endurance is low) but the price is alright and I wanted the extra space for my brother without taking the blame for opening up the laptop myself (yeah, family things). The RAM is running 52-44-44-104 primary timings, seems worse than DDR5-4800 but I don't know these new stuff well to make further comments. There is no dedicated graphics.
     
    Connectivity
    I'll give it a 6/10. WiFi card is an Intel AX203 (CNVi), Wifi 6 support should be standard these days so nothing to complain or brag about.
    Only 3 USB 3.2 Gen 1 (Type A x2, Type C x1 that can also be used to charge the laptop) is a big reason why it loses so many points, the number is already not generous and 5Gbps per port means performance with a USB hub is still limited.
    There's also an HDMI 1.4 port and SD card reader
     
    Performance and limits
    Windows 11 is updated to the latest version as of posting (2023-7-25), graphics driver is 31.0.101.4575.
     
    CPU turbo bins:
    P-core: 46x (1c), 43x (2c)
    E-core: 34x (1~4c), 32x (5~8c)
     
    Power limits:
    PL1: 12W~27W (static), 14W~21W (dynamic)
    PL2: 55W (static), 45W (dynamic)
    These are reported by Hwinfo
     
    Cinebench R23:
    Single core: 1556pt (note Hwinfo64 shows it loading the first thread of each P-core rather than a single P-core's two threads, leading to them running at 4.3GHz during the run) @73C peak and 70C steady (room temperature is 26C)
    Multi core 1st run: 5914pt @88C peak and 58C steady (a couple seconds of 45W peak, dropping to 21W and then 19W steady)
    Multi core subsequent runs: 5724pt
     
    CSGO FPS benchmark (just for fun, can't think of any games reasonable to try on basic laptops like this)
    at 1080p and every video quality option turned way down, it can get around 200fps when nothing's going on but drops to 15fps after the smoke grenades explode and the camera enters it. Average reported is 112.88fps.
     
    Noise and external temperature
    A slight fan noise (louder than a hiss but not annoying) can be heard during Cinebench R23 single core test, but even running R23 multicore and CSGO can't get it to be loud. PL1 did its job very well.
     
    Only the left side of the bottom vent gets hot, the right side stays cool during all tests. This means the single fan design did not fully utilize the cooling potential of the chassis.
     
    Useless pre-installed garbage
    Lenovo preinstalls Lenovo Vantage, Smart Appearance Components and Lenovo Now from the factory. Vantage lets you check for warranty and other maintenance stuff so it's good, the other two I don't seem to find a use for me yet.
     
    Price
    It's HKD 6000 before the SSD upgrade, HKD 6400 after.
     
    Battery life
    My brother won't let me take it for long enough for a battery life test, but it's a 47Wh BYD battery on a laptop that idles at 5~6W CPU package power and takes about 10W when watching Youtube videos. Therefore unfortunately he will have to take the charger with him every day which is not so convenient as it has a separate power brick.
     
    Conclusion
    My brother's not a computer geek, the only game he plays is Roblox. The laptop will be used to do paperwork and run geomatics software like ArcGIS so it should be good enough and isn't too bad of a deal. However Lenovo clearly didn't spend much effort on improving it over their older designs on a hardware level either, the power brick and USB ports being the giveaways.
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from PcBeExpensive in UPDATE! New PC Build Help Please!   
    Depends on the display you will use and games you will play. 
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    Jurrunio reacted to Slizzo in Motherboard DDR type   
    12th and 13th gen run quite a bit better with a good DDR5 kit compared to a DDR4 kit. If you're going to be repurposing most of the build I'd just get a DDR5 board and memory now.
     
    Especially now that DDR5 pricing has come down quite a bit.
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    Jurrunio reacted to Levent in Could I boot Windows 10 to 3.8 Gb SD CARD   
    You can’t even fit stock W10 ISO to 4G disk let alone having an OTG install.
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    Jurrunio got a reaction from Darknighterror in The hell are all of these 4080s priced so low for?   
    Here you go

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