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    Zando_ got a reaction from Average Nerd in Fastest way to spread the word of folding to non tech users.   
    Not really. As I said, it can work as a neat space heater. Not gonna beat a proper HVAC system for anything but a single room though. My power bill doubled when I ran a few GPUs 24/7 for a folding event. In winter, so assisting the HVAC not fighting it.
    Not everyone can do so, nor do they want to.
    🤓 <- that's the only appropriate reaction I have for this statement lmao.
    You assume everyone's parents can just magically afford a higher bill. Mom and Dad don't poof money out of a hat infinitely for their kids projects. I've had the privilege of financially stable parents who can both shrug off an increased power bill and have helped me financially in a bunch of other ways, most people do not get that. It is very important to understand that that is a less and less common privilege these days, so you don't come across as an entitled twat.
     
    I don't get the fixation on F@H. As I said earlier it seems to be going fine, and they regularly have more hardware than they can actually use enrolled. I'm not sure what point there would be in the masses running F@H on very slow and inefficient devices (really anything but a decent to great GPU is practically useless for F@H, I only run CPU folding when I want the heat output). If you want to effect the world in a positive way, look into how batteries are produced from raw materials to final product (both environmental and human cost), then come back and advocate for burning through the limited useful life of mobile and laptop batteries to accomplish barely anything as F@H doesn't scale well on those devices. If they could even be served work units.
     
    On the speed of F@H, back during the covid push in 2020, the network was 2x faster than the fastest supercomputer on the planet: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/folding-at-home-worlds-top-supercomputers-coronavirus-covid-19. This article also does a good job of mentioning that you can contribute with your hardware if you want, but not being too pushy over it.
     
    On mobile, unless they've changed it, DreamLab seems especially bad on modern phones: https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=32951. Relevant bit here:
    Lots of even cheaper phones now are often OLED, seems a bad idea to try and kill screens faster for dubious benefit.
     
    TLDR: Folding @ Home seems a weird thing to want to get regular (non-techie) folks into. It's doing very well (again AFAIK, I haven't seen some massive "we're losing hardware help" message from the F@H team, and we have some hardcore Folders here on the forum so it would have been mentioned if so) in its niche, and doesn't really fit anywhere else due to a multitude of overlapping concerns that may or may not be an issue depending on the individual non-techie person.
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    Zando_ got a reaction from Eigenvektor in Fastest way to spread the word of folding to non tech users.   
    Not really. As I said, it can work as a neat space heater. Not gonna beat a proper HVAC system for anything but a single room though. My power bill doubled when I ran a few GPUs 24/7 for a folding event. In winter, so assisting the HVAC not fighting it.
    Not everyone can do so, nor do they want to.
    🤓 <- that's the only appropriate reaction I have for this statement lmao.
    You assume everyone's parents can just magically afford a higher bill. Mom and Dad don't poof money out of a hat infinitely for their kids projects. I've had the privilege of financially stable parents who can both shrug off an increased power bill and have helped me financially in a bunch of other ways, most people do not get that. It is very important to understand that that is a less and less common privilege these days, so you don't come across as an entitled twat.
     
    I don't get the fixation on F@H. As I said earlier it seems to be going fine, and they regularly have more hardware than they can actually use enrolled. I'm not sure what point there would be in the masses running F@H on very slow and inefficient devices (really anything but a decent to great GPU is practically useless for F@H, I only run CPU folding when I want the heat output). If you want to effect the world in a positive way, look into how batteries are produced from raw materials to final product (both environmental and human cost), then come back and advocate for burning through the limited useful life of mobile and laptop batteries to accomplish barely anything as F@H doesn't scale well on those devices. If they could even be served work units.
     
    On the speed of F@H, back during the covid push in 2020, the network was 2x faster than the fastest supercomputer on the planet: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/folding-at-home-worlds-top-supercomputers-coronavirus-covid-19. This article also does a good job of mentioning that you can contribute with your hardware if you want, but not being too pushy over it.
     
    On mobile, unless they've changed it, DreamLab seems especially bad on modern phones: https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=32951. Relevant bit here:
    Lots of even cheaper phones now are often OLED, seems a bad idea to try and kill screens faster for dubious benefit.
     
    TLDR: Folding @ Home seems a weird thing to want to get regular (non-techie) folks into. It's doing very well (again AFAIK, I haven't seen some massive "we're losing hardware help" message from the F@H team, and we have some hardcore Folders here on the forum so it would have been mentioned if so) in its niche, and doesn't really fit anywhere else due to a multitude of overlapping concerns that may or may not be an issue depending on the individual non-techie person.
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    Zando_ reacted to AlwaysFSX in Fastest way to spread the word of folding to non tech users.   
    🤔
    Ah, got my answer. Gotcha.
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    Zando_ got a reaction from Dedayog in Fastest way to spread the word of folding to non tech users.   
    Not really. As I said, it can work as a neat space heater. Not gonna beat a proper HVAC system for anything but a single room though. My power bill doubled when I ran a few GPUs 24/7 for a folding event. In winter, so assisting the HVAC not fighting it.
    Not everyone can do so, nor do they want to.
    🤓 <- that's the only appropriate reaction I have for this statement lmao.
    You assume everyone's parents can just magically afford a higher bill. Mom and Dad don't poof money out of a hat infinitely for their kids projects. I've had the privilege of financially stable parents who can both shrug off an increased power bill and have helped me financially in a bunch of other ways, most people do not get that. It is very important to understand that that is a less and less common privilege these days, so you don't come across as an entitled twat.
     
    I don't get the fixation on F@H. As I said earlier it seems to be going fine, and they regularly have more hardware than they can actually use enrolled. I'm not sure what point there would be in the masses running F@H on very slow and inefficient devices (really anything but a decent to great GPU is practically useless for F@H, I only run CPU folding when I want the heat output). If you want to effect the world in a positive way, look into how batteries are produced from raw materials to final product (both environmental and human cost), then come back and advocate for burning through the limited useful life of mobile and laptop batteries to accomplish barely anything as F@H doesn't scale well on those devices. If they could even be served work units.
     
    On the speed of F@H, back during the covid push in 2020, the network was 2x faster than the fastest supercomputer on the planet: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/folding-at-home-worlds-top-supercomputers-coronavirus-covid-19. This article also does a good job of mentioning that you can contribute with your hardware if you want, but not being too pushy over it.
     
    On mobile, unless they've changed it, DreamLab seems especially bad on modern phones: https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=32951. Relevant bit here:
    Lots of even cheaper phones now are often OLED, seems a bad idea to try and kill screens faster for dubious benefit.
     
    TLDR: Folding @ Home seems a weird thing to want to get regular (non-techie) folks into. It's doing very well (again AFAIK, I haven't seen some massive "we're losing hardware help" message from the F@H team, and we have some hardcore Folders here on the forum so it would have been mentioned if so) in its niche, and doesn't really fit anywhere else due to a multitude of overlapping concerns that may or may not be an issue depending on the individual non-techie person.
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    Zando_ reacted to freeagent in my aio is being a pussy again   
    Start over again. Take the lid off your CPU and do it over. 
  6. Agree
    Zando_ reacted to da na in A quick one to Xeon users. Is it worth it?   
    Xeon is not worth it for just gaming. The low single thread performance just does not stack up well with any modern CPU.
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    Zando_ got a reaction from da na in A quick one to Xeon users. Is it worth it?   
    Yep. The only ones that were killer value for gaming was seven years ago when Ryzen did not exist, and you could get a cheap 6-8 core chip with an X chipset motherboard and easily overclock to 4.2-4.5Ghz with a competitive IPC at the time. Zen/Zen+ endangered these Xeons, Zen 2 wiped them out. 
     
    EDIT: Worth noting that this is in the US market, overseas I know mainstream Ryzen/Intel chips can be much more expensive, even used, thus why these Chinese boards exist to take advantage of mass Xeon selloffs from upgrading datacenters. 
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    Zando_ reacted to AlwaysFSX in Fastest way to spread the word of folding to non tech users.   
    They don't care. It's a niche for people that have the cash to burn on electricity. The average person does not or will not.
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    Zando_ got a reaction from Needfuldoer in A quick one to Xeon users. Is it worth it?   
    Yep. The only ones that were killer value for gaming was seven years ago when Ryzen did not exist, and you could get a cheap 6-8 core chip with an X chipset motherboard and easily overclock to 4.2-4.5Ghz with a competitive IPC at the time. Zen/Zen+ endangered these Xeons, Zen 2 wiped them out. 
     
    EDIT: Worth noting that this is in the US market, overseas I know mainstream Ryzen/Intel chips can be much more expensive, even used, thus why these Chinese boards exist to take advantage of mass Xeon selloffs from upgrading datacenters. 
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    Zando_ got a reaction from RONOTHAN## in A quick one to Xeon users. Is it worth it?   
    Yep. The only ones that were killer value for gaming was seven years ago when Ryzen did not exist, and you could get a cheap 6-8 core chip with an X chipset motherboard and easily overclock to 4.2-4.5Ghz with a competitive IPC at the time. Zen/Zen+ endangered these Xeons, Zen 2 wiped them out. 
     
    EDIT: Worth noting that this is in the US market, overseas I know mainstream Ryzen/Intel chips can be much more expensive, even used, thus why these Chinese boards exist to take advantage of mass Xeon selloffs from upgrading datacenters. 
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    Zando_ reacted to RONOTHAN## in A quick one to Xeon users. Is it worth it?   
    If you're just gaming, no. You might have a ton of cores, but games like Alan Wake 2 don't care about core count, they care about single thread performance, and in that regard you can get something like an R5 3600 that will wipe the floor with the 2697v3 in games for about the same amount overall without having to go for sketchy Chinese motherboards. Heck, even an R5 1600 will be better for games than a 2697v3. 
     
    If you're doing a production rig or need a ton of PCIe, then sure, a Xeon can make sense, but not as a gaming chip. 
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    Zando_ reacted to GuiltySpark_ in Why would anybody need a threadripper?   
    Extensive PCIe device support. Memory bandwidth intensive applications. Software that scales with core count. 
     
    Not gamers, not even close to the target market. 
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    Zando_ reacted to BentleyOwen123 in 4k gaming on a budget   
    oh ok, i didnt think about staying on am4, yea i have a b550 m pro i bielieve from gigabyte
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    Zando_ reacted to TatamiMatt in 4k gaming on a budget   
    Pure performance
     
    PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bnTdWt
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($357.00 @ Newegg) 
    CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
    Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
    Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($92.99 @ Newegg) 
    Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($61.99 @ Amazon) 
    Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($899.99 @ Newegg) 
    Case: BGears b-Masstige MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
    Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.90 @ Amazon) 
    Total: $1714.75
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-26 11:57 EDT-0400
     
    Performance with budget for a good monitor
     
    PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WdCsfy
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($198.99 @ Newegg) 
    Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
    Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($92.99 @ Newegg) 
    Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($61.99 @ Amazon) 
    Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($899.99 @ Newegg) 
    Case: BGears b-Masstige MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
    Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.90 @ Amazon) 
    Total: $1520.84
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-26 11:59 EDT-0400
     
    for a full new builds, if you wanted to do what @Zando_ said and have a decent mobo, take out the cooler, motherboard, ram and cpu and slap a 5700X3D/5800X3D in there instead and knock off $300 with the new cpu included, in fact here 
     
    PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HCJvFs
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($247.00 @ Amazon) 
    Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($61.99 @ Amazon) 
    Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($899.99 @ Newegg) 
    Case: BGears b-Masstige MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
    Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.90 @ Amazon) 
    Total: $1355.87
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-26 12:01 EDT-0400
     
    Or 5800X3D
     
    PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VCJvFs
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($309.00 @ Newegg) 
    Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($61.99 @ Amazon) 
    Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($899.99 @ Newegg) 
    Case: BGears b-Masstige MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
    Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.90 @ Amazon) 
    Total: $1417.87
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-26 11:59 EDT-0400
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    Zando_ got a reaction from CT854 in Is Folding@Home data not effective against STD’s like HIV/AIDS?   
    https://foldingathome.org/diseases/
    I'd assume HIV isn't a fault in protein folding.
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    Zando_ reacted to SpookyCitrus in How do you reinstall MacOS without another Mac?   
    If I'm remembering correctly, if it's an intel based mac, you should just be able to use a USB drive to install Windows onto it directly. You don't even need to have MacOS installed.
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    Zando_ got a reaction from goatedpenguin in How do you reinstall MacOS without another Mac?   
    Hold CMD + I when it boots up to boot into Internet Recovery. Or CMD + R (regular recovery mode keybind, but it will boot to Internet Recovery if no OS is present). It will usually try and download the launch OS though, which can be annoying to upgrade from. On my mid-2012 MBPs that was Mac OS X Mountain Lion if I booted to Internet Recovery with no OS present. 
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    Zando_ got a reaction from Sinnamon in NAS or RAID in windows workstation with remote access?   
    Doesn't sound like you need multiple machines to connect to the same drives (this is the main point of a Network Attached Storage device), so the main benefit would be in the separation of the machines. It's often more convenient to have one computer do one thing (your work for example) and another do different things (hold all your stuff). Adding a bunch more devices to your main PC will make it boot slower for example (as it has to initialize more devices, and if you use an HBA then the HBA itself takes a bit to come on as well). Also if for some reason you need to take the RAID array offline, you don't have to shut down your main PC to do so. The main cons would be a whole 2nd computer to administrate (though this can be very easy, once set up they require very little attention) and you'll be throttled to whatever your home LAN is. Most folks have gigabit ethernet around the house, so you'll be limited to ~125MB/s, even standard HDDs on their own are often a bit faster than that, and depending on RAID/ZFS configuration they can get much faster still. 
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    Zando_ reacted to Shimejii in what are all the settings you must change when you just got a new pc   
    Dont bother Overclocking. Just do voltage tuning. If its not your computer, dont OC. Youll be the one having to deal with all the issues that arise from that.
     
    Otherwise besides the power settings for GPU/CPU in windows, it just comes down to what things he actually does with the computer. For the most part once you have all the drivers and such installed, thats pretty much it for casual users. You want rock solid stability with this system rather then the absolute most performance, since they are not going to notice the marginal gains that comes with that type of stuff.
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    Zando_ got a reaction from da na in I have three microchip implants, AMA   
    Not (usually) due to the implants. The cool tech itself isn't what makes cyberpunk settings suck to live in, it's the abuse by corporations. Implants/neon cities/flying cars are the set dressing, not the cause of the issues cyberpunk critiques. 
    I use these at work. Have a card in my phone case (as it's flat so it fits) so I can just use my phone - which I carry everywhere anyways - to get in to work, instead of having to have another thing dangling off my keychain. I ride a motorcycle most days so I have 2 sets of keys (bike + truck) and when on the bike the keys are just dangling out in the weather due to where the ignition switch is, so I'd prefer to not have a bunch of important stuff hanging off of them. If you have a lot more RFID/NFC stuff than just a door or two at work, I see the reasoning behind getting implants. 
     
    I don't have much else to ask/add other than it seems pretty cool, and I'm sorry folks are overreacting to a small, barely invasive and easily reversible procedure. 
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    Zando_ got a reaction from Kilrah in How do you reinstall MacOS without another Mac?   
    Hold CMD + I when it boots up to boot into Internet Recovery. Or CMD + R (regular recovery mode keybind, but it will boot to Internet Recovery if no OS is present). It will usually try and download the launch OS though, which can be annoying to upgrade from. On my mid-2012 MBPs that was Mac OS X Mountain Lion if I booted to Internet Recovery with no OS present. 
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    Zando_ reacted to Tetras in among them,According to gaming performance which gpu will be first, which one will be second and third position ??? what is the performance difference   
    RX 5600 non-XT is the best.
    1660 Super is a bit slower.
     
    5500 XT and 6500 XT are quite close, but a decent chunk slower than the other two cards.
     
    RX 6600 is usually the best budget card if you're buying new.
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    Zando_ reacted to filpo in among them,According to gaming performance which gpu will be first, which one will be second and third position ??? what is the performance difference   
    there's four?
     
    techpowerup is a wonderful tool
    higher percentage is better
    5500 XT and 6500 XT are basically the same but the 5500 XT is better imo since it has 8 lanes instead of 4 like in the 6500 XT 

    1660 super is about 25% better than the 5500 xt

    the rx 5600 is about equal to a 3050 8gb so it comes out on top out of all of them

    so in order from best to worst
    1. RX 5600
    2. 1660 SUPER
    3. 5500 XT (technically it's worse but because it has a higher lane width than the 6500 XT, this one's above it imo)
    4. 6500 XT 
  25. Funny
    Zando_ reacted to Caroline in School Survey about GPU Preferences[Academic][2min]   
    It really keeps happening.
    Could you please either put the questions here or use something else than google for the survey? Now that'd be greatly appreciated. Try to give some more content to the topic, care about the topic, honestly right now it looks bland, uninviting, written in a rush even.
    See, it's probably me because I like forums, long, detailed topics that invite users to participate in more ways than by just writing a single comment that gets lost between pages. Forum topics are a form of literature to me, sounds dumb I know, I like to participate in topics that follow like a tedious argument, where you could go for hours sharing words with others, walls of texts, comments with schematics, pictures, quotes, surveys...
    I'll be glad to answer any quiz, survey or fill a form as long as it's not behind a google link. Googlewalled, like paywalled, but as a new term.
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