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if the game likes clockspeed yes.

@Bit_Guardian Um no they do not, MS Windows 10 does! Google tracks it already, and your phone service if you use android does too. Comcast has stated it will not and does not sell User Data. also wheres your damn proof? I love how everyone throws it at the ISP but not google who blatantly admits it tracks your search data fairly normally. Oh and heres a PC world article.
 
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2986988/privacy/the-price-of-free-how-apple-facebook-microsoft-and-google-sell-you-to-advertisers.html
 
Huh no ISP it's as if they dont WANT to buy it from your ISP or the ISP isint selling it.

@FlatBrokeRacing um I just said it's not the first. Mind reading?

Would not say raped but defiantly we see the preformance gap dropped big time.

@DutchTexan Fine then if miners are here to stay it just means I would encourage nobody to ever buy used GPUs. Since the mIners wanna hog every GPU for themselves and it means sicne I don't just have 500 to 800 dollars to burn for a mid ranged GPu don't ask me to feel sorry for them when things get hard on them. Refrence the guy on ebay "needing money." I'd say no we should let you deal with the consquances of your investment. You chose to buy 25 GPUs for a Risky endever [average risk I;ve seen on Etherium and Bit coin hovers between 50 and 65% much higher than precious metals.] in a get rich quick scheme. Thats your problom not my job to bail you out. Maybe research your market your entering first and don't buy pallets of GPUs all at once?

@Logerss  possibly but you'll be bottlenecked before too long. If you do a fast upgrade it's ok but I am jsut syaing the FX platform COULD work but it'll last maybe a year...two tops before it struggles. By struggles I mean gets chewed up.

@DutchTexan   No I want a 1060 6gig version that costs up tp 700 bucks. No you just assumed and tried to act smart. My cpu won't handle a 1080. I did not say you personally are but miners are the source of my problom.I don't really care what you bought your damn 1080 for it is irralvent.  Try to buy a 480 at a price below 400 bucks.

@GoodBytes You cna do simmialr speeds with copper using DOCIS I know my company I work for uses it. Trouble is it requires amplihers to keep thwe signal goign past certain distances. Fiberl iens are backbone and until later when the new fiber deep system rolls in will continue to be an issue. As to wireless via those channels....you realize liek wifi radio signals digital or otherwise get inhterfearance right? So speeds and pign will very jsut asm uch depending on mountains or weather or anything else that may cause na issue. Competeting channels can do it and so can other radio signals.

A note it does not even infalte the GPU market it kills it for most users. I at this point due to mining encourage people never to buy used GPUs as theres no way to know if they were used for mining. Also I am as an outsider of minign trying to see how people actually get money for this and where the end result gets anyone.Feels like soembody is being had for hoping somewhere somebody will give them moeny for this stuff. I have to think before long it will hit some kind of wall.

all the 1080tis will be fairly simmilar, msotly asthetics now or prefrences on cooling. At that level many have noted the GPU isint heat limited but voltage limited due to a max voltage lock Nvidia has on it.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1050-TI-4GT/dp/B01N2W8MJ9/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497242311&sr=8-1&keywords=low+profile+gpu
 
there are very low profile versiosn of the 1050ti.

I also think that being an online game since it has to base some information on the server and whats happening online you may run into your internet connecting bottlenecking you.

Savere bottleneck I'd say.

@rn8686  and @ARikozuM  My issue is if you have to overclock out of the box it to reach that preformance level it feels lije to me as if you kidna did something wrong. as an engineer type I don't feel buying cheap to try and get the same preformance makes much sense. Like saying I need to buy tires for snow but it's cheaper to buy tires for sand and just do afew thigns to spruce them up.

@RadiatingLight better how? they cost more and for enthisusts won't give oyu much extra preformance. Again Ryzen 5 and 7 chisp are not competeting agaisnt these or least were nto designed to. What gamer is gonna need 16 threads?

@manikyath Ding ding ding you got it. The Extreme CPus by Intel have always just been cut down Xeons. bascially jsut meant to allow people willing to shell out money to buy a Xeon.

@VinZie I have copied that all down for future looking. Defiantly not a bad step by step to have. Mostly this is more jsut analyzing my current set up and seeign where I can imrpove my security suite set up or if it's ok. I do love malwarebytes though it works wonderfully.

@ARikozuM I don't have much experience with Kaspersky I may have to research them. As i said I'm always open to imrpoved alternatives. I also heard norton has gotton better.

@FTL and there is the issue I likely won't know ahead of time for games.

Maxwell is finally getting the async compute they promised.

AMD didint blow intel away but it has given us a competitive market which is great.

the op asked if I found fault with it and I do, it assumes the bio update alone did it.

@sgloux3470 Thats because the 7700k is the most recent Chip designs by intel so no it's entire line up is not being thrashed and even places where AMD is winning it's not doing so by the stupidly high numbers AMD printed. I:ve seen dozens of benchmarks and it's just not happening. But thats fine those gains only really get noticed in benchmarks really. Most playing on Ryzen with good rigs are not gonna suddenly goign to notice 5 to 8 frames per second. Also I am not talking price strictly performance. Price wise AMD is making intel wet the bed and shit it's pants. 
 
What the vast majority of gamers WILL notice. is they can get smooth great frame rate gaming on most modern games on good rigs using Ryzen for less than Intel prices. so what if Intel can get you 180FPS and Ryzen only 170FPS on the same game with same settings. Fact is your getting awesome performance for less.

@KrazyforOnce There are systems with many more cores running than those. Especially once your running multiple sockets of CPUs.