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might come back with a simple version of the tier list soon we'll see

  1. LienusLateTips

    LienusLateTips

    i have three midterms coming up tho

  2. LienusLateTips
  3. LukeSavenije

    LukeSavenije

    dude

     

    you don't have to retake yourself for no reason here

  4. PianoPlayer88Key

    PianoPlayer88Key

    One idea that has popped into the space inside my skull that in most other people is typically occupied by a brain is something like...

     

     

    Reduce the number of tiers, and say what systems each tier is suitable for.  I was thinking maybe 3 tiers...

     

    Tier A -- totally fine for ALL scenarios, rock-solid stable, etc.  These can single-handedly power a full server cabinet with multiple motherboards, CPUs, video cards, etc.  It would run fanless when powering an LN2-overclocked W-3175X and Titan RTX NVLink in a 50°C ambient environment.  It would be grossly overkill for a 35W TDP APU / HTPC / Office PC; however, it would be okay for powering a large number of them.

     

    Tier B -- This would be more suitable for the office PCs, single-GPU on 115x/AMx, even the SLI/CF on Xx99 platforms.  They could even handle the higher-end systems and dual or quad socket servers just fine.  They would still be safe in the datacenter server, but system performance would be diminished.  Even if some of the lower-end models might only barely meet ATX spec and only if the environment is less than 80°F / 27°C, and may not meet c6/c7 specs, none of them will EVER, even if the PSU catastrophically dies, be a risk to your other parts.

     

    Tier C -- These units WILL severly damage your system the moment you first power it on.  Also it's a matter of when, not if, it kills your motherboard and everything connected to it.  One hundred percent of the serial numbers WILL do so before the shortest warranty of any part in your system has expired, and such damage will NOT be covered.

     

     

     

    Also, what about maybe having a table of suggested minimum price for a given wattage / 80+ certification PSU?  (It should probably be based on regular, not sale prices.)  For example, exercise extreme caution with an 800W 80+ Bronze PSU for $25, but a 450W 80+ Gold PSU for $100 is probably okay.

     

     

  5. LienusLateTips

    LienusLateTips

    @PianoPlayer88Key I've been thinking something more like this

     

    Tier A - Top tier PSUs, ie. high end Deltas, AXi, etc

    Tier B - These are your generic purpose PSUs. Everything from a Corsair CX to a SeaSonic Focus GX. Recommended for most builds

    Tier C - While I wouldn't recommend these, they would work fine in most circumstances

    Tier D - No.

  6. PianoPlayer88Key

    PianoPlayer88Key

    Just curious, any chance of there also being a separate section (not necessarily tiered) of units that you would definitely NOT go out and buy new, but if you already have it from a previous build it might be okay to use for a while?  And maybe also a section / list of PSUs that would be total duds in a modern system (i.e. anything after Pentium 4), but would be fine for a 5V-heavy retro system (or even AT - pre-ATX)?  For example my bro had a psu in a Pentium II system (he may still have it) that was like 300 or 350 watts, and had 12A on the 12V rail.

     

    I'm guessing "C" would be ones that would be okay to buy new and use if B or A would be hard to get, and "D" would be don't use this under *ANY* circumstances.

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