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Try what the last poster did here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6762565?start=0&tstart=0

Here's the build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TxrMyc
 
He wants to play Battlefield 4 mainly. I think this is pretty solid for battlefield at medium settings and 720p. He wants it to cost 600-700$. Maximum price of 750$. Needs everything: monitor Windows, wireless card, etc.

If you spend all your money on Priavate school that's a waste of time you'll have none left for college.

A 6 year old iMac with an ATI Radeon 2400. That was back when ATI was a thing. The RAM is 1GB of DDR2 800Mhz...

OK,lemme restart my computer, brb.

Okay thank you. I guess it is only a little more.

This is gonna cost a lot but meh... No point in really buying them except for high end servers. Nevertheless, interesting news.
 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57616061-92/intel-reportedly-eyes-future-18-core-broadwell-chip/

Yes it is.

Why not?

We should do dis.

This is the single, most sexiest motherboard, I have ever seen.

We should do dis.

It's has been no denial that AMD has been in worser shape since FX's launch a few years ago now, and now with these leaks coming out of the wetworks things look dire for some of the more enthusiast level market share within AMD's product line.

Before i begin i am extremely tired when i type this away so i will go back and edit this in the morning should this need be a thing. 

Technologically Intel and Nvidia have been making strides and bounds in implemented technologies that build upon their intended platform roadmaps they have followed pretty much the moment i entered into the PC market. Nvidia has moved from Fermi to Kepler and now is gearing up for Maxwell and Volta later in time, throughout we have seen power efficiency developments through Adaptive V-Sync, Video capture software through Shadowplay....and now G-Sync and Game-Streaming becoming more pronounced through Shield, GRID and Linus' new Toy he posted today on Instagram.

Turning to Intel, having seen the leap from Westmore to Sandy-Bridge was a heart-ache to many of my buddies back in the day but seeing where Haswell is now...i honestly have only seen two true developments in their architectural development through power efficiency, overclocking potential and iGP performance boosts as Intel plays catchup to competitors not foreseen through ARM and SoCs.

Now admittedly i started off on AMD as it was the recommended jump in point with a Phenom X4 955 BE that i remember OC'd to a steady 3.6Ghz and did a pretty decent job for the games department back in the day. Today i am a University Student who is learning about Marketing and Research on a consumer basis and market share etc etc and AMD instantly sprung into my mind as a great example of a company that i personally would like to see make a strong comeback. Being fully aware of their financial standpoints and how they can and can not do certain things with R&D right now....i really hope they are listening to their consumer base in things they would like to see in the future.

In saying this, i admit to wanting to see some excitement come back into the game from AMD's part from a competitive standpoint not now but in the future. Call me a fanboy or whatever but logically i own a Nvidia System and a Intel Chipset but i would like to see some value put into my system from a company that strives to push value to the consumer on a level that they appreciate...the kind of magic AMD nails in some places...totally nailed back in the day but whispers somewhat today.

The R9 290 is a great example of how AMD can show everyone that they can play with the big boys, their mistake was allowing below consumer standard components hitting the market...Although enthusiasts enjoy aftermarket coolers...i would have loved to pick up a 290 that could perform at the FPS rates presented with good power consumption, heat control and sound output (Nothing extreme but acceptable to the masses).

Now coming to the crux of the purpose of this thread is ultimately what (as a consumer) would like to see AMD pull out in the next 2-3 years at most in the hopes they can regain their lost ground (i truly believe if they dig in, it could be possible).

Anyways....

-Start segmenting their intended markets and identify who their products would be aimed for, for example...with their APu line they showed certain games in accordance with the 5600-5800/6600-6800k series...Across their entire CPu line i think being able to present clearly the kind of consumer the product would be intended for might be a good thing for all involved. e.g. Have everything from their A8 APu lines through to the 6300 series as being the Gamer-tier/productivity-tier level products that most people should aim for regarding their systems in accordance with what the CPu can actually provide performance-wise.

-Establish exactly the purpose of 8-core CPus in terms of Workstation-level productivity being the more target worthy market and establish a higher level enthusiast product-line of CPus like the 9XXX series but put aside R&D dividends from APu/CPu sales into developing truly worthy enthusiast-level components that their market would be more happy and inclined to pay for. If a 9370 was priced at $350NZD compared to a and equilvalent Intel CPu priced at $800-900. Assuming technologically it was the better product im sure if AMD took the time to ensure the quality of their product more at a slightly sharper and more refined price tag, that many more people would take notice and buy more.

-Understand the demand for consumers wanting experimental APus like 6 core/more threaded designs with iGP either kept at a set performance level or taken out completely (give the consumer the choice) and utilise the extra die space to create stronger performing APus that gamers and the general public (And linus) would be more happier to recommend. Put it on 8.5/10ths close to the performance of an equal intel product and people would melt faces in envy.

-Overcome their Power efficiency and TDP/Heat problem by either revising their architecture in a realistic way or find a new more innovative way to do so.


Too tired to continue for now i will end on this though....the reasoning behind all this stuff is that when taken into account with things like Mantle, R9 290 pricing....the Aftermarket cooling situation...Kaveri's potential...AM3+'s love with enthusiasts and APu Adoption rate...can't help wanting to find a way to help AMD out in some way that makes them understand what we all as tech lovers want from them in ways so they meet us at the target and we meet them through buying the product at end game.

Anyways, contribute to the thread with ideas you would also like to share in...i'm contemplating writing a report in my free time that i would like to send into Sunnyvale or something in the hopes of their Marketing Team detailing in some sort of non-NDA way of things they have planned out to better understand what they want to do for all of us.

 

Ok

There is a website where you can see all of the deaths on black friday. They also have links to news websites.

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If your running a Minecraft server you need ddos protection. If your only playing with 2 other friends, you really only need a gigabyte a RAM. But if you want tons of mods and maps then you might want something like 4 gigabytes. You can get a better CPU too. There are some A-Series APUs from AMD that are around seventy dollars USD and have four cores with a base clock of 4.0 Ghz.
 
EDIT: You can also get small form factor cases for around ten dollars USD. You could also get a barebone server rackmount case type thing. They also sell strictly server parts, but since its not a huge build that's going to be carrying a huge load, that probably isn't necessary.
 
EDIT 2: If you want a good server CPU, get an Intel Xeon. Some cost a thousand dollars, but you can get nice ones that have been refurbished for around thirty dollars.

REMINDER: this thread is not to ask questions about your PC. Please create a NEW thread if you still have issues after going through this thread.
 
So, you've put together your brand new, shining rig. You plug in the power cord and push the button. Nothing happens. What now? The answer depends on what is happening:
 
 
The machine doesn't do anything. No beeps, LEDs or spinning fans.
Check if your power cable is firmly plugged in on both ends (you would be surprised how many issues this resolves) Check if the power supply (PSU) has a button to cut the power to the machine. Check if this button is in the position denoted with ON or I Check if EVERY power cable is plugged in securely, reseat if necessary. Check if the power button is installed correctly (consult your motherboard manual) Try shorting out the pins you connect the power button to manually. If this powers on your system, you have a faulty power button. Check with a device of which you know that it works if the power outlet you're using is actually providing power. If this hasn't solved the problem, check if your PSU isn't dead. To do this, you can follow these steps:
Unplug your power cord and/or flip the switch on the back of the PSU in the position denoted with OFF or 0 Unplug every connector coming from your PSU (this is very important) Using a bent paperclip, short out the green wire on the 24 pin header with any of the black wires, like so. If you have a PSU that shuts down its fan under low load, or a PSU that is fanless, connect something small like a hard drive to it. Plug in your power cord and/or flip the switch on the back of the PSU in the position denoted with ON or I If the PSU does NOT power on (the fan/hard drive you connected should start spinning) after following these steps, your PSU is in all likelyhood defective. Request an RMA.
If the PSU DOES power on, then the problem is most likely your motherboard.
 
 
The machine does power up, but my screen remains black (no POST).
Make sure your BIOS version is compatible with the CPU generation you're trying to run in your motherboard, you can consult the manual or the manufacturer's website about this. Check if EVERY power cable is connected. Auxiliary power connectors included. Make sure the cable coming from your monitor is attached securely to the graphics card. Also make sure it is securely attached to the monitor itself. Make sure your PSU is powerful enough to power your complete system. Try booting the system with only a monitor but no other peripherals connected. (Thanks @Steven Schaefer) Make sure your monitor works by testing it on a different computer. If you have both a dedicated GPU and an iGPU, try your monitor on both the outputs on the graphics cards as well as on the motherboard. When trying the iGPU, if the board has VGA out, try that too instead of just digital out. (Discovered by @evening) Make sure all connectors and cables are plugged in securely, reseat if necessary. Make sure your RAM, CPU and GPU are plugged in securely, reseat if necessary. Remove riser cables between GPU and motherboard. If this solves the issue, try lowering your PCIe version/speed in the bios to PCIe 3 or lower (Thanks @problemsolver) If the motherboard you're using has debug LEDs, check the error code and consult the motherboard manual to see what it means. If you have a debug speaker connected to the motherboard, note the beep sequence and consult the motherboard manual or this thread to see what it means. Try clearing your CMOS. Try booting your computer with only a motherboard, CPU and one stick of RAM attached (if you don't have an iGPU, plug in your GPU as well 😉 ). Make sure your GPU works (if you have a dedicated one), try it in another computer. Make sure your RAM works, try it another computer. Make sure the RAM is compatible with your CPU and your motherboard.  
If the PC still doesn't POST after this, create a new thread and, as explained here, post IN FULL DETAIL about your problem. Make sure you include the following:
System configuration Troubleshooting steps you already did Any additional information that may be relevant.  
Lastly, if you find any mistakes/grammatical errors, inaccuracies or missing steps in this post, please do post them in a comment so I can fix it.
 
 
PS: @TheXDS has posted how you can do some more in depth checking of the internal circuitry of you PSU. The only thing you need is a multimeter or potentiometer (if you're oldschool :D). You can find his post at http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/42440-readme-how-to-respond-to-a-no-post-or-no-power-up-situation/?p=4561958

We should do dis.

We should do dis.

Thanks so much for joining. My vision is a community based on positive member interaction and helping each other. I believe that if we all work together toward this goal, we will have success in the long run.
We don't have official forum rules or anything like that yet, but as long as everyone is respectful of each other, and patient with the growing pains that we are going to experience (vBulletin 5 is VERY beta right now) we can make this into an AWESOME community forum.
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Thank you, this will be very helpful in my upcoming build.