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Thanks for your reply. I've got my query reasonably answered in MSI forum. Here's the link if anyone faces similar situation like me: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-b450m-mortar-bios-version-questions.376659/#post-2133257

Gigabyte's own forum seemed inactive and I thought I'd find more people here than in Gigabyte's own forum who bought a GPU with this rebate offer last month.

Thanks for your reply. That's what I thought too specially given that the serial number barcode is on the same piece of paper where the UPC barcode is. But given that the companies - as I understand - try to keep finding ways to deny the rebates for the slightest of niggles (otherwise they could've just offered it directly as discounts, don't they?), I am trying to keep everything as perfect as possible. That's why I'm asking for others' suggestion.

Hello, perhaps many of you are aware of the last month's Gigabyte GPU rebate program (where 100 USD rebate was given for a 6900 XT Gaming OC). Here's the link: https://images10.newegg.com/uploadfilesfornewegg/rebate/SH/GIGABYTE6MIRsJun01Jun3022sw7zus.pdf After I complete the registration process it says in the form to include: "the original UPC code from the product packaging taped to the rebate form, and the original serial number(s) from the product packaging taped to accompanying sheets." Now I understand where to tape the UPC code as they have a clear space for it reserved in the form, but I don't understand where to tape the original serial number. They said to tape it to 'accompanying sheets' but I can't understand what accompanying sheet they are talking about. A screenshot of the form mentioning the rules is provided. I hope there will be lots of other customers who filled-up the form and thus can answer my question as the 6900 XT could be essentially purchased for 720 USD from Newegg with the rebate included (before tax) Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Hello everyone, so my problem is a bit weird. I have the mobo: MSI B450M Mortar (non-MAX) https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR Now after my motherboard was sent for repair (issue: display not coming though the PC seems to be running in background), the issue is apparently fixed but now the BIOS is showing that I've got an MSI B450M Mortar MAX mobo! CPU-Z is also showing the same. Mind it, previously I had the normal non-MAX version. Probably they've installed a B450 Mortar MAX BIOS chip into my non-MAX motherboard when repairing. Now the BIOS version they've installed after the repair is E7B89AMS.2F1 as shown in the BIOS setup and CPU-Z (picture in attachment). It's a B450 Mortar MAX BIOS as I see after googling. Other people seem to have installed it previously. But what I find most weird is when trying to update the BIOS from the official link: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR-MAX/support I cannot even find my BIOS E7B89AMS.2F1 ! Closest to it in terms of naming is E7B89AMS.2F0 . In fact every BIOS I see for the Mortar MAX seem to be ending with 0 not 1 (i.e. E7B89AMS.1D0 or E7B89AMS.2G0) . But I know that this BIOS E7B89AMS.2F1 exists because I saw online in forums and youtube that other people have installed it so it's not fake. So I'm now confused for multiple reasons: 1. Firstly getting my mobo transformed from a non-MAX to MAX after repair. 2. Finding a BIOS installed that I cannot find on MSI's official website. 3. Other people I find online seem to be using that BIOS Can someone help me explain any of these issues? Thanks.

Thanks for your reply. However I'm specifically looking for non MAX version experience from end-users as MAX versions officially support upto 4133 MHz (OC) speed.

Nice. Please let me know your result and also what happens if you only install the new pair of RAMs (3600 MHz cl18) to your motherboard. Thanks.

I hope they're there for marketing purpose too. I decided to buy the 3600 MHz. If they fail to run at that speed, at least 3466 MHz should work as that's the officially supported OC speed of my board. And regarding the VRM quality, they are actually quite good on these models. The price is comparatively low because they don't have the bells and whistles (like ARGB port etc) of other expensive models. I don't know you are aware of this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=611478281

Thanks for your reply. But as far as I know, in general it's considered very risky to flash the BIOS from another model (even if they are very similar). I don't think I should try that route.

Thanks for your reply. Actually B450 Mortar/Tomahawk were considered very good boards at the time of release and had very good VRM especially at their price point. But I don't know about the training algorithm and such you mentioned. My main point is if B450 MAX boards can support higher frequency memory is there any intrinsic reason for their non-MAX counterparts to not support them? Was there any change made from B450 Mortar non-MAX to MAX hardware wise in terms of what frequency they could support?

Hello guys, I want to know if 3600 MHz (say, cl 18) RAM will support on MSI B450M Mortar (non MAX) motherboard if the CPU is Ryzen 5 5600/5600x (after installing the beta BIOS) Officially the B450M Mortar (non MAX) supports RAM upto 3433 MHz (after OC or XMP) and B450M Mortar MAX supports upto 4133 MHz. But I've read in multiple places that the ability to run higher speed RAM mostly depends on the memory controller on the processor itself and the memory controllers for Ryzen 3000/5000 series are much better. So the 3433 MHz limit on B450 Mortar (non MAX) might be due to assuming a previous generation Ryzen processor was used as you need to install a beta BIOS to run a 5000 series processor on B450 Mortar (non MAX). Anyone with personal experience of having a B450 Mortar/Tomahawk (non MAX) and 3600 MHz+ RAM would be very helpful. Thanks.

Smaller display wasn't a possibility as getting a larger display was the main reason behind buying a new laptop for my friend. Also being light weight was an important issue. Bought the Intel Asus VivoBook F510UA as the AMD version went out of stock in Newegg a few hours before buying. Thanks for your suggestions anyway.

Why? Is there anything better under 550$? Buying from USA. Should be light-weight as those two. Display size at least 15.6", battery life no specific preference, but obviously the more the better. Budget is 500-550$.

Thanks for your reply. Not only is the Newegg site misleading, so is the official Asus site (1 TB SSHD on title, 256 GB SSD on description). That along with complete lack of review and discussion on it by pro reviewers or common people made me very skeptic. So I'm not missing out on something right? They're equivalent and the AMD one seems to be just going under the radar?

Hello guys, I see the Asus VivoBook F510UA get regularly recommended in different forums in 500-599$ price range.But I can't see the AMD version of it recommended or discussed anywhere. I can't even find any reviews online. As I see the main different is the CPU (i5 8250u vs Ryzen 5 2500u) which performs roughly equivalently as I read multiple reviews. And the AMD laptop has 256 GB SSD instead of 1 TB HDD of the Intel one. The other specifications (even the design) seems pretty equal. Shouldn't it be a good buy? Or am I missing something?? Pls give your opinion as I plan to buy it today on cyber Monday (a few hours left) P.S. There are also some major confusions. The title in the Asus page says it has 1TB SSHD, but the specs below (and newegg page) shows 256 GB SSD !! Also the newegg page title shows the processor is dual-core. But the specs below shows quad-core. Also R5 2500u is quad-core as I see online. It's all getting so confusing. Pls help me with the right information and opinion. Thanks.

ViewSonic VX3209-2K. We have this monitor at a pretty reasonable price(for a 1440p, 8-bit+FRC panel) in where I live. However because this monitor was released in Australia, Asia mainly I cannot find any technical review of it online except here: http://playwares.com/dpreview/52352066 Even after Google Chrome translation, the review isn't being particularly helpful for me. And the charts/figures themselves are not translated. So if you guys can understand the language and/or the graphs, give me a basic understanding of in terms of overall image quality and input lag(gaming will be one of my priority) and if it has any glaring flaws. P.S. Don't suggest me any other monitor at similar price/specifications. Because I don't live in the USA and it's not possible to buy any product I want at amazon price. This is currently the only viable 2k monitor within my price range. Thanks.

Thanks for your feedback. Now if anyone could enlighten me on the aggressive anti-glare coating on the Dell U2711...

Ok you guys had almost convinced me to go for the Dell one. But after researching a bit on that particular UltraSharp U2711 model, I've found out it was infamous for its "aggressive" anti-glare coating which caused grainy images. You'll see quite a lot of discussions/ forum threads on different tech sites regarding the issue if you google it. Now it could be that the problem is remarkable only when the monitor was compared to other similar high-end(700-1000$) monitors used for professional and video editing and it would still be a huge improvement over a relatively lower end consumer-grade monitor. Or is it that the problem might also be evident to a normal consumer used to using a consumer-grade 200-300$ monitor?? Maybe anybody with hands-on experience with the Dell monitor would be able to give the 'best' answer...

Hmm... got you. Dell seems to be the more logical choice. So monitor image quality doesn't degrade gradually over the years?

Why would you?

Thanks for your feedback. Another thing that's bugging me is my 24" Samsung has freesync(I used AMD card). Though a modest 48-72HZ range but still the monitors I'm considering don't have that. Though the Asus one can be OCed to around 74Hz as I read but no freesync.

Ok. Just wanted to be sure if you had the disadvantages in your mind while recommending it.

Considering it's a 7+ years old model and used around 4 years and the seller himself bought it 2nd-hand and I also get no warranty?

Good point. also can you answer to another question I asked: Is there anything special about native resolution? I mean, everything others being equal, will a 1440p monitor displaying @1080p look worse than a 1080p monitor displaying @1080p??

Yes. But I won't be test them both hands-on. I can only test the one I wanna take. You can't go over to someone's house, check his monitor quality, then go to 2nd person's house, check his monitor quality and then go to the 1st person's house again if the 1st one is better! Hope you understand. So I need to be sure which one I wanna buy. What I can check there is if the monitor has some kinda problem like scratch or whatever.