NewAndy

I went from a 1080P IPS on 970 to 970sli 1440P g-sync and I love it. The thing with gsync is once you get used to it you don't notice it anymore unless (like me) you occasionally use your tv for some 4k sofa gaming, then you really notice the lack of gsync - imo I think it's worth it

If so the Xbox is obsolete, soncr you can buy all xbox exclusives in the windows app store and the playstation offers everything else

You. An dowload windows 10 for free from microsfts own site, and use it without activating it for as long as you want, but you will be stuck with the text "Active Windows. Go to settings to activate windows" in the bottom right corner. Other than that, you have the full version of windows. It's even legal

@Slick@LinusTech@nicklmg@CPotter
For those of you that don't know, LTT recently put out this video:
Now, it's great that LTT is making another build guide, but I have MANY issues with this build. Here is a short list:
A 1600 would be a much better choice. It would cost only a little more, comes with a better stock cooler, and can be OCed, not to mention on average the minimums and averages are higher, and in any multi threaded workloads it will crush (though that's not completely relevant, since this is a gaming build guide) You're using a B150 mobo with a Kaby Lake CPU. While most of the time there shouldn't be an issue, there are probably still some B150 mobos on shelves that have older bioses that don't support Kaby Lake on them. You only got 8gb RAM in a $1000 build. WTF? You bought an $80 cooler with a locked CPU and mobo. Wat. You got a $100 case, instead of a $65 one like the S340. At the very least, get the Pure Base 600 no window instead for $20 cheaper. You could've saved another $20 by getting something like an M12ii instead for the PSU. All the money saved by doing that allows us to fit a 1070 in the build, a GPU that is at least 25% more powerful from here (probably more since it's a top of the line 580 vs a founders 1070) Here is the PCPP list that evidences this:
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.55 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($80.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($379.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 600 (Black/Silver) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $997.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-04 11:32 EDT-0400
 
A build that has a slightly better CPU, double the RAM, and at least around 30% faster GPU with the sacrifices only being the lack of a window and a worse CPU cooler (and maybe a slightly louder PSU, but it probably isn't by much).
 
You see what I'm saying?
 
Now I understand, LTT was sponsored by be quiet!. But that doesn't excuse recommending a build to possibly a MILLION people that could've been 30% faster for the EXACT SAME PRICE. Now yes, not a million people are going to lose out on that, but at least a few hundred people will PROBABLY use this as a base for their next pc. Instead, you could've used a $30 cooler from be quiet!. Or maybe could've used the same cooler, psu, and case in a $1500 build guide where you would be using a 7700k, where the parts would actually MAKE SENSE.
 
The Ryzen 5/3 "previewed" videos were also a fail in a similar way, but those didn't cost people performance/money and you guys truly learned your lesson from those.
 
But this? This is just misleading/hurting your OWN VIEWERS by costing them performance because of sponsorships. This is just bad, honestly. It's a new low, and I hope you guys will fix this, possibly by doing a followup video with a BETTER parts list using a 1600+1070.
 
I wasn't really bothered by the thumbnails, and the Ryzen 5/3 previewed video seemed to teach you guys a lesson, but this is just flat out bad. I don't have words for how low you guys have gone in this video, to recommend people to spend money on useless things (like the CPU cooler) because of sponsorships.
 
Again, I don't have anything against sponsorships, I know this is how quite a bit of your money is made, but when sponsorships mean you are HURTING your viewers, that's just flat out bad. 
 
I hope someone at LMG sees this, since you guys really need to reverse your mistake.
 
EDIT: And for Ryzen, you can't make the argument that this was filmed before Ryzen 5 was launched, since you had a disclaimer in the video about the rx 580 which was launched a few weeks after Ryzen.

Wouldn't a 570 be better value for money?

If you actually read my post, I said that I will add a HDD later.
 
And I like the color neuteral Asus board, overclocking isn't the only thing I'm thinking about when picking parts (although it is an important part of it)
Also I just like Asus' BIOS 
And I am using a stock cooler in the beginning, so I won't get a great OC anyways

But the performance of the 580 is nowhere near the performance of the 1080Ti. Yes, you get more performance for your money, and no, no one needs this much power, but if I want a high end system, Nvidia is the only choise I have. I really want AMD to make a high end GPU, but it won't be until Vega is released next year, and maybe not even then!
 
 

You don't need to buy from the pc part picker links but its good practice to do virtual builds there as the compatibility checker is a pretty awesome free tool  Check your build has no issues, get a rough idea of prices and then buy from wherever you like - its still a good resource  

"Macs have like 480p or 720p screen" - classmate
"My galaxy s7 has 4k screen" - classmate

Pretty much... I do advise buying the SSD first and HDD later if you can't go with both together due to the hassle to partition and move OS and all later... 3000mhz of the same corsair vengeance is also advisable since Ryzen takes good performance boost with high frequency and the Asus Prime can run at 2933mhz without any issue.

Ship it to free geek or a similar organization, they should cover shipping and you can write it off on taxes as charity

but i think that this mobo is pure overkill

gamer's nexus video is up. Overclocks about the same at the r7, 3.8-4.0Ghz. Gaming performance seems to be pretty identical to a 1700x. So like good, clearly capable of gaming at a high level, but clearly behind most i7's. Outperforming the i5s in games that do a good job of taking advantage of more threads, and in games that don't take advantage of more threads, beating all I5s except the 7600k.
 
So if you want the CPU that will result in the highest benchmarks of today's games, then the 7700k is still the best option. If you're debating between a i5 7600k and a r5 1600, then its tough to make a decision based on today's games, and i think the r5 1600 is a better choice while taking into account future games.

You won't need to watch YouTube videos. There will be plenty of reviews on websistes, that you will only use like 5MB from your data plan.
And as always, there is going to be a lot of talking going on this forum. Again you won't need too much data for that.
 
Minor suggestions: Get unlimited data transfer on LTE from your carier  

then you are living in the past

btw r stands for ryzen so in the title you say ryzen 2 times

I prefer it honestly

Sorry, I've seen you have this discussion with other people before, it's just that I'm used to thinking that an i5 is enough, just like people told me when I joined this community.
I will try to remember it from now on.
 
Also, I know that we still haven't seen any benchmarks, but do you think the Ryzen r5 will be any different?

It's not. But it's decent. I would get 2x8gb sticks because 16 is becoming a minimum now IMO.

Option 3 would be the best

none of the 3 options will bottleneck, i would recommend option 3 if you can afford it, amd maybe swap out the RX 480 for an r9 fury, it performs much better.

Latency = timings/frequency. Higher MHz always means higher bandwidth, but latency also matters. If you plug it in:
 
For 2133 MHz RAM: Latency = 13 cycles/2133 million cycles/sec = 6.095*10-9
For 3200 MHz RAM: Latency = 16 cycles/3200 million cycles/sec = 5.0*10-9
 
So the 3200 MHz RAM actually has a lower latency.
 
Also, the clock speed of the infinity fabric in Ryzen is linked to the memory clock speed, so even more reason to get 3200 MHz RAM. It can make a substantial difference.
 

So this lady calls my shop yesterday trying to set up her All-in-One. She figure out where to plug in the mouse and keyboard. We tell her there should be a bunch of USB points on the back. She cannot find them... And she is upset because when she does turn it in, Windows doesn't come up. She just gets a black screen.
 
So we ask what model her AIO is so we can pull up the user manual for her, and she says (and I'm not making this up), "Um... It's an A S U S 1 1 4 H Z."
She spells out each thing individually. We look at the model we just wrote on paper... "Ma'am, that's a monitor."
She replies, "I know it's got a monitor."
 
I wonder if Jitterbug ever thought about making PCs for the elderly.

wait a few weeks for a ryzen 6 core to come out at 250$. that will be a good streaming chip, then get a rx470, 480 or 1060