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Yup thank you kindly =) Also, now lower tRAS and tRC are possible, because prior to that I had the training issues.

Hey I fixed my issue in case you're interested knowing - there is a BIOS setting on MSI boards called "Memory fast boot" which is enabled by default. I disabled this setting and voilla.. Idk what's even the point of that setting, because it takes the exact same amount of time to boot with it, or without it enabled.

I attached a file, those are all locked. I did change tRAS to 30 since then (looser), and tRDWR 8. All stable as in this image.

Hello, I have this persistant issue where after a restart or a pc power up, the PC might get stuck on this debug code 22, which means "OEM pre-memory initialization codes". What's weird is that it happens sometimes, maybe like 1/3 of the boots. And well, after the boot, the PC works flawlessly and passes HCI memtest without any error. My specs are: SF750 Platinum PSU 3800X - 1900 IF stable. G.Skill 4000C16D-32GVKA running at 3800 14-14-14 1.48V (stable HCI memtest), 2x16GB DR. B550 Unify-X mobo. Could it be my IMC just sometimes struggling to load the RAM settings? My previous B450 Tomahawk max 4 layer PCB worked well with 1900 IF and 2x8GB SR but the IMC couldn't even handle 1900 IF to boot with DR even on 2133 stock JDEC RAM settings for the RAM, which means that the move from SR to DR was enough stress on the IMC to not even be able to boot high IF. What do you guys think is the culprit for the 22 debug code?

Any other boards? Apparently there are no tomahawk boards being sold in my country. How about b450 auros pro?

Is there a good B450 motherboard that has both good vrm and good ram overclocking support?

Does Lian Li have any shop that sells replacement parts? I can't find any. Thanks.

Nah, doesn't have to be ek. But i have got one lightly used EK PE 240mm. Got it locally for 25$

I mean, PE compared to even the thicker rads seem to give only 5-10% less cooling on Push or pull only. Sure, the XE with both push&pull does amazing, but that's 110mm thickenss with the fans which is waaay too much and won't fit anyways. I don't have much choice tho do i? besides putting the res and pump at the back and drilling holes for pass throughs and drilling mounting holes for screws. By the way, are there any things for drilling 3mm diameter screws holes into aluminum with an electric screwdriver?

Well it performs about the same as other mid thickness rad according to xtremerigs. What did you try to cool with it?

Really? What's better in the medium thickness range?

Why not?

I will be ocing but ryzen doesn't oc much for now, so just infinity fabric+ ram + gpu. If Zen 3 will oc well, i might oc more then.

For an X570 setup with 3900X/3950X, or maybe Zen 3 in the future + 5700XT, are EK 240mm PE + 120mm PE enough?

I bet i could do 3600 CL14 or maybe CL16 1T with 1.4/1.45V instead of the base 1.35V Maybe some play with the timings in the bios (like the larger scale timings (there are dozens)). The thing about daisy chain, is that i've seen some videos comparing 4x4gb single rank and 2x8gb single rank. Both configs being on the same clock speeds and latencies. It does seem like the 4x4 performs 5-10% better in games in avg fps, yet in some instances the 1% lows are worse, and i think that's because of the daisy chain layout on the motherboard. Think about it, if you use only the fastest slots, that's fine, but when running 4 dimms, two slots will be slower and so that might cause lower 1% or 0.1% than usual when tasks get completed on the slower slots. That's why I wanted T topology.