Tummy

Okay, I figured it out. The 3.3v sense wire wasn’t connected in the setup in which I used it in the HP desktop. It would turn on without any load or when it was in a standard atx pc, but the power supply would instantly shut off when it sensed that it couldn’t measure the 3.3v line hence creating the weird behaviour.

22 minutes ago, Srijan Verma said:

Hp has a good customer service why not just contact them instead of the dude who sold it to you?

The computer is out of warranty. And do you think they will help me with installing a non-hp psu? I suppose that they will only help me if I buy a new one. But it’s worth a shot, I could at least try and ask them for help.

Here is a video to illustrate: 

And I just now start to think about it; doesn’t the mobo need a “power_ok” signal?

5 minutes ago, Srijan Verma said:

what did you mean when you said it stopped working but  would turn on?
i mean do the leds light up?

The psu has no less but when it was still in the pc the computer would turn on and boot into windows. The psu meanwhile was making a high pitched sound and under load the pc would shut down and reboot. One time when someone was playing fortnite it blew smoke out of the rear of the computer. I’ve removed it since then but can still turn it on by shorting the green wire to measure the voltages (that all seem stable) and see what wire does what.

10 minutes ago, Srijan Verma said:

 

I know it's an all in one but have you tried these steps?

I’ve just tried everything in the list that I haven’t tried before with no luck. Still the same thing happens.

Just now, Srijan Verma said:

Tired booting without dedicated GPU?

 

Hello, thanks for your reply. Yes I have tried booting without a dedicated gpu and it gives the same result.

Hello,

I recently bought a HP Compaq pro 6300, but after a few days the psu stopped working, it was probably due to the heavier quadro m4000 the seller put in that I replaced with a GTX 1060 -125w tdp- (the seller was also selling this pc with a rx 580 -180w tdp-). So I contacted the seller and he just said it wasn’t possible and that is was my problem without giving me a replacement or any other kind of help. So I figured that it would be a good idea to put a atx power supply in it and be certain that it could handle the bigger GPU.

I did some research on a couple of forums and watched a couple of videos and I set to work to wire the atx psu so that it was compatible with this “Apple like” HP board that uses 2x 6pin. I ordered a 5-12v adapter and connected all the wires. But when I tried to turn it on the fans of the cpu cooler, case and psu just spin for a split second and it stops, followed by a few seconds of nothing. This repeats infinitely until I turn of the psu. 

I have tried measuring the voltages of the new psu and comparing them to the old one (it still turns on). And it all seems fine, I can’t put my finger on what the problem is and I hope maybe someone has some experience with this and knows what to do. 

I also find it very weird that the board gives a 3,6v signal on the pin that’s usually connected to the grey wire.

I’ve used this psu and diagram:

https://images.app.goo.gl/MqHrLfyZSpqnGQ6p9

https://azerty.nl/product/xilence/925122/performance-c-series-xp700-voeding--intern--200-240-v-wisselstroom-v?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIv9Tu3pHp4QIVB-h3Ch1iGw7zEAQYASABEgKFXfD_BwE

(the psu is known good and just works when I put it in a pc or short the green wire)

Any kind of help would be apriciated and if you need more info just ask.

Hello everyone,

My sister needs a new laptop, I'm really liking my "new" macbook pro from 2012 and my sis also likes it and wants a macbook. They are rather expencive (at least for us) but I see a lot of water-damaged devices on the second hand market and I'm asking myself what's the true chance of recovering a water-damaged device. I heard the man of a employee bought a almost brand new laptop with liquid-damage and recoverd it succesfully. Like it's super easy and 100% guarante to work.

I always thought the chances were near zero and i have always rejected them instanly but what do you guys think? Is there a resonable change it will work? I know it depends on the severity and what the owner did after his device got wet. But can I assume it just works again when everything is very dry? My biggest fear is that the internals got shorted and are permanantly damaged, but i seem te be almost the only one that assumes this is the case when I see a water-damaged device.

I would like your opinion on this matter.

Kind reguards, Tummy00

On 2/11/2019 at 4:33 PM, dalekphalm said:

Do you already have up to date backups of all the data?

 

If so, one option is to buy new drives (get SAS 3.5” enterprise ones if they are compatible with the drive bay in your existing server) and restore from the backup to the new drives. 

 

The server doesnt look horrible - but the drive selection is rather odd. Very small capacity drives. Does this Trip software have a heavy Database component? Often IT vendors will configure DB servers with a lot of smaller higher RPM drives to get better IO. 

 

Though with enterprise grade SSD’s, that’s less and less common now. 

 

Their basic build is fine - and $5K for a storage server isn’t a bad price. But I would question the need for so much ram (assuming no VM’s, and assuming this Trip program doesn’t use a lot of ram,

you'd likely be fine with 8GB of ram). 

 

As others have noted, Warranty and Support is something people often overlook when trying to save money on production business servers. 

 

With Dell or HPE, you typically get on site next day repairs. If you build your own,

you have to deal with the individual warranty for each component, which in most cases means sending it off, and waiting a week or two for the replacement part to arrive. With the server probably down the entire time. 

 

If you buy used, probably no warranty at all, so you gotta buy a replacement part and wait for shipping, etc.

 

Personally, for a business, if you can afford to buy an OEM solution, then do it. The warranty and support will save you huge headaches if anything ever goes down. 

 

Also, if you haven’t already, try giving Dell and HPE a call directly. Ask to speak to a corporate sales advisor and work with them on building a spec. They can also refer you to other local IT vendors usually

too if you wish. 

We have backed it up so that would be an option. 

I understand your point with the warrenty and fast repairs but I could have like 5 speres of every part just laying around for the price thay are charging  . But I also don't think it needs this mutch ram and we acces everything over a network that is limited to 3MB/s, that does not mean however that trip can't be needing faster data transfer than that. But we also had it running on mutch older hardware and I don't think it needs that fast of IO.

I will call Dell directly and ask, thanks for the advice. And if I can let a professional IT guy do it I would rather do that dan be responsible myself. Of course also "proffesional IT guy companies" have competitors and I heard that they are cheaper and as good. My plan is to just get to what we need and see witch one offers the best deal also considering warrenty and replacements.

Thank you all very mutch for the reactions and your opinions. I will look into it and compare, we also need to keep in mind the distance between service points and shipping risk/costs.

3 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

I can suggest many motherboards or Xeon processors.  In US what is the max you pay for motherboard and max you pay for CPU ?  How many cores do you need ?  You said 8 is a overkill.  So Im guessing a 6 or 8 core 16 threads will be good.

 

We have no budget, it needs to work good and be relieable. Even an older 6-core CPU should be more than sufficient. Currently we are running an E5 2620 and it works good.

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

I can

 

Hello, good evening. What can you do?

Hello guys (or girls),

I will start right away: we "need" a new server. We currently have one that serves as a central storage location and it runs a program called trip , Trip is pritty "intensive" and we need it to run on our central server and stream to the other desktops/workstations. This also prevents that 2 people are working on the same project and it keeps track of everything so to just run it on the workspace computers them selves is no option. 

We have about 15 working spaces with computers that all use the same server where all the important documents and folders get saved. Lately, the server is almost hitting its maximum capacity of 1.2TB (1,09TB usable) (I'm guessing it had 4x 600GB 2,5" 15000rpm HDD's in RAID10 because that's what they want to put in the new system along with some other HDD's when we asked the supplier). So we asked the supplier for a server with more storage capacity, there wehere 2 options:

Option 1: They need to fit another rack for the hot-swapale HDD's and need to buy extra HDD's that also run in RAID 10, If I'm not mistaken the storage will be expanded by 2.4TB for a total of 3.6TB with the old HDD's for a price of €2000. 

Option 2: We buy a completely new system with the following specifications:

• HPE ProLiant ML350 Gen10 Base server - 4U - Xeon Silver 4110, 16GB ECC DDR4 2666MHz, SAS, Hotswapale 2,5 bay    €2.250,00
• Another 16GB ECC DDR4 2666MHz dimm for a total capacity of 32GB    €270,00
• 4x 600GB 2,5" hot-swapable 15000rpm RAID 10 HDD's  (SAS)  4x€275 = €1.100,00
• 4x 1,2TB 2,5" hot-swapable 10000rpm RAID 10 HDD's  (SAS)  4x€230 = €920,00
• Storage for fans for the ProLiant ML350 Gen 10    €95,00
• Hot-swapable 80-plus titanium PSU (they didn't say what wattage)     €155,00
• Soms stupid HP Enterprise 8GB memorycard €55,00
• HP ProLiant Intergrated Lights Out (ILO) Advanced pack     €55,00

For a whoping total of €4.900 Pre-Tax.

The first thing I thought was that they are just really ripping us off, If I want an extra relieable 3TB (Thats even more than we get extra with their BS) I would get 2x 3TB HDD's and run them in RAID1 on just a regulair SATA port with hot-plugging enabled in the bios for the sata ports for a total cost of less than €150. 

So my idea was to just build a server out of more mainstream parts. That means regular, cheap but relieable SATA HDD's, a desktop grade CPU (because i can't imagine a f**king NAS needing a 8-core Xeon even with trip) and a desktop case where I can swap the HDD's any time with and motherbord that supports RAID and hot-plugging (or maybe a dedicated RAID card). This would be mutch cheaper, but now I have a problem. I was planning on using the Ryzen platform, but it doesn't officially Support ECC memory (the error correcting properties)  and this is a important server, it can't just go down. Intel offers the Xeonx linup but that's also a ripoff. The server needs to run 24/7 although we can plan maintainance at nights. 

Another idea of mine was to swap out the 600GB HDD's for bigger ones so we don't need a rack/new server, but the suplier says it's not possible to copy everthing (And that must be the biggest BS I have ever heard). And still it would be pretty expencive because of the more uncommon type of HDD.

So what's your view on this and what would you do? Note that this is a important server and that relieability goes for everything, but i feel like this is just throwing money in the fire. We already have a system that backs up everthing to a different NAS (That also runs in RAID10) every evining.

Any help would be apriciated, thank you.

3 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Yeah that's too much.

A 2nd hand 1080ti sells for 600-700 euros.

There's no way the rest of the rig is worth 1k.

 

The 8700k is "only" a 6-core. With 8 cores being the new high-end for mainstream stuff and ryzen 6-cores available for 150 euros, it's not a surprise people don't believe the 8700k is not much worth, even tho you probably paid 400+ euros for it.

here is a little price breakdown:

i7 8700k - €400

Z370 Mobo - €100

16GB DDR4 - €133

256GB SSD - €42,50

Arctic freezer 33 - €33,50

GTX 1080 ti - €600

Sharkoon TG5 RGB - €85

700w PSu - €57

Windows 10 pro - €17

It would make for a total of €1.468, keep in mind that assembly in the Neterlands with windows cost about €140. with that it would cost about €1.608 in a store, and then you have to wait 7 days to get delivery.

1 minute ago, Razor Blade said:

Are people counter offering? If so what sort of offers are you getting? The used PC market varies a lot depending where you live. Like around where I live, it is mostly used Apple macbooks (many have problems). PCs and enterprise gear is almost non existent. So when that stuff does pop up, it goes for a premium.

the highest bid now is €1.200 but I have 2 other people that are interessted (defenitly more serious than the other bidders) and they still need to think about what they want to spend.

Just now, Slottr said:

Its a little overpriced if new, but not totally crazy.

Used though, I'd definitely try to get it for less. drop it down to 1400 and its probably worth it

Okay, thanks for your reply. It is 2 days old now, how mutch would you ask for it?

Hello guys I'm trying to sell this PC on a second hand website. The computer is practacly new and has a 1 year warrenty. My price is €1.595 but I get constant massages that it is to expencive. I think that you guys have more knowledge and I want your opinion.

This are the specs:

• i7 8700K
• arctic freezer 33
• Gigabyte Z370 D3
• 16GB 2400MHz Ballistix ddr4
• 256GB SSD from kingston (sata)
• Sharkoon TG5 RGB
• Inno3D Jet GTX 1080 ti
• Xilence proformance XP700 PSU
• windows 10 pro

It's already fully assembled and has Windows 10 pre-installed with all the drivers.

16 hours ago, AbsoluteFool said:

Why don't junt just use w3schools and write your own HTML files? HTML is like reading a children's book. It's basicly just 

 

<!doctype html>

<head>

<title>Hello World</title>

</head>

 

<body>

<h1>Hello World!</h1>

</body>

oh wow, never heard of it. It seems pritty handy, thanks.

I was going for a more professional look and i tought I couldn't do that myself, but maybe I can learn to make sites with better and more trustworthy looks.

Just now, Homeless Pineapple said:

I would suggest taking a look at Dreamweaver by Adobe. It functions very similarly to site builders such as Squarespace or Wix, but lets you use your own code and templates. It costs about $20/month for an annual subscription. Alternatively, you can run all of your sites on WordPress and use the WPBakery plugin as a site builder.

Hi, thanks for your reply. I will look into it.

Just now, firelighter487 said:

what was wrong with kaby lake? 

 

indeed. and no competition.

I mean kaby-/skylake-X the higher end of the 7000-series

5 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

this has to be the most rushed product in quite some time...

Don't forget the intel 7000-series

Hello everyone, I'm hoping you have a great day!

So I want to start my own computer repair and assembly service. I'm currently advertising via Ebay and other kind of second hand sites. But I want to host my own website, I already have a server and everything is set up, I can now host files, but most importantly: HTML websites.

But since my HTML programming skills aren't great I'm looking for a service/program/website where I can visually see and change an HTML file that I can host. I don't mind paying for it as long as it's not too expensive and I rather don't have a subscription. 

So these are some of the requirements:

• I'm looking for a program whith wich I can edit HTML files
• Even a noob like me can learn how to use it
• It doesn't need a subscription
• I can host the HTML on my own server
• A shop or a chat or a contact form would be very nice, but it's not a requirement

Does anyone have any suggestions? If so, please post them below.

On 11/15/2018 at 5:13 PM, Zhiaaaaaaaaa said:

If you can, return it. I fucking hated it and returned it asap for a b350 pc mate, its not a bad motherboard but honestlyyyy for about 30-40$ more u get a WAY better board.

I sold it in a different PC. I built PC's as hobby and it was a good way to get rid of it, I have had it about 1-1,5 years and in the beginning I didn't know mutch about PC's so I thought it was a good and cheap board. But oh boy was I wrong  I now have a MSI B450-a Pro and i'm happy with it. Good overclocks ons low voltages, stable memory, userfriendly UEFI with many options and the list goed on and on....

Fun fact: Did you know you cannot use the crossfire feature on the AB350m Pro4? IT'S BECAUSE THE SECOND VIDEOCARD WILL FUCKING BLOCK THE POWER SWITCH PINS. That's just one of the many things that wrong with it.

On 9/24/2018 at 9:08 PM, Zhiaaaaaaaaa said:

The asrock board has a 6+3 phase with heat spreader on the 6 same with the gigabyte one tho its a 4+2, the asrock has 2 dimms and the gigabyte has 4 dimms. The reason im not buying the asrock board is the amount of 1 egg reviews on newegg. Ridiculous.

what did you end up choosing? I have a AB350m Pro4 and i'm definitly not happy with it.

On 15-9-2018 at 2:12 PM, userzero said:

A lot.. how long you got haha.

As long as you need  hahaha. 

Sorry I totally forgot to look at LTT.