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because you can do even more cool stuff if you are not 100% sure of the whole file name $find ./ | grep -i "jpg" | grep -i "narrower" | grep -i "even_narrower" this lets you search for partial filenames or bits and pieces if you don't remember.

find ./ | grep "nameoffile"

yup.....this is the only reason I am still using Intel. Google needs to fix this ASAP

well.....because we are looking at performance in real world situations. If you already had an OC gaming machine are you going to under/stock clock it before you look at what you will replace it with. Performance is performance no matter how you get there.

That is my point exactly......OC is where you make up the IPC deficit. The bigger problem shows when you have something like sky/kabylake where the IPC is much better AND they OC better. My i5 6600k is at 4.7 locked on all 4 cores and my single thread cinnebench score is 195 that is a huge improvement over stock speeds let alone pounding something like zen where the clock 4 clock IPC is lower AND they hit the OC ceiling at 3.9 maybe the R5 and R3 will OC better but I am not holding my breath since these parts are hitting architectural&voltage limits in the OC dept not thermal....hopefully they can get this cleaned up with BIOS revisions since as I have heard most mobo manufacturers were only given 3 weeks to push out these bioses. and as far as gaming goes the whole "20 years from now games will actually use more threads" thing is not cutting it this time......performance TODAY matters not performance someday *cough* faildozer *cough*

.....have you seen the OC ppl are getting (or not getting rather). Cant even break 4Ghz. That is why the IPC is so important because they barely OC.

AMD 1969-2017 RIP.......they just blew their last chance. and I just bought an RX480....maybe radeon will survive

because my 4 core 6600k at 4.7Ghz with only a corsair h80i is amazballz.......NOW for anyone streaming or doing ANYTHING on top of gaming certainly an i7 makes sense. My GF streams so I built her a 6700k......I had to goto a full EK 360mm water-loop kit to get the temps under control at 4.5Ghz. It ate the h80i for breakfast on temps. AND it was night and day difference with the OC. all that said with games FINALLY using more threads this will probobly be my last 4 thread gaming build(I see near 90% cpu usage in some games on all cores.....witcher3 GTA etc). An i7 does age alot better but in my book just save and get the unlocked chip & mobo whichever you choose and be done with it. At least your not leaving performance on the table then. Also I would point to gamersnexus and digital foundry where they show an i5 does slightly hold back the gtx1070(about 10fps IIRC) and really holds back the 1080.....they work but the minimums take a beating. I had a 1070 in mine and while it was great I could tell the i5 was hurting my min fps.......so I moved the 1070 to my GF's i7 pc and got an RX480 and Freesync monitor for my i5 which is alot more balanced. YMMV just my experience.

lol no kidding right

Yup I sure am.....IPC of the FX chips is the same as their last generation phenoms so we have to assume by history that their next chip is at least as good as their last/current one. I am waiting to see what their "gains" are when real testers like linus and others get them in hand. My bigger concern with them is I dont think they have any plans for the future.....this is a case of "release it and see what happens" then go from there.

EA: its in the game!(you bought last year) /jabjab

Jim Keller has already moved on from AMD.......this is a final hail mary play on their part to have a one off generation and hopefully make enough money to fund their future cpu generations that I am betting they have ZERO plans/goals for yet. I built an fx-8320 in early 2013.....I was underwhelmed with the performance from day one, 8 pure cores of lag. The mobo finally died and I replaced it with a junkrat i5-2320 build with a chip from ebay. Plays my games good enough for now.