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This is a really impressive preview of a device that looks to be flexing on the Steamdeck pretty hard. And that's not an easy thing to do, but I'd reckon someone like ASUS is pretty well positioned to make a device like this. The external GPU factor is certainly cool, but to Linus's point there's measures they could take to make it even better. The question this video really left me with is this: Where is Nintendo going to go when its time for a new console? Consider: -Nintendo ceded the chase of graphical parity with Sony/MS years ago to come at consoles from a different angle. -The first of these was with the Wii, where they focused on motion controls. -With the Switch their main differentiator has been portability, which devices like the Steamdeck, Ally, and others are now encroaching on. -The performance is to such a point that when out and about or at home with an eGPU you can probably outclass the Switch pretty handily. -Nintendo's hold over certain exclusive titles/franchises seems to get smaller rather than larger over the years, and much like Sega will not be enough to save them. I don't see a place for Nintendo in the hardware market long term under these conditions, and barring a 3rd angle of attack like going all in on VR next time (which has its own challenges) I can't see how they stay relevant in hardware amongst competitors like these. Its no longer just fringe handheld only brands making units that most kids won't know about. The Steamdeck and now the Ally are by household names with the expertise and pockets to really make a go of it. To me, it seems like Nintendo is going to be chased out of another area where they are going to be too scared to go toe-to-toe in hardware. Its going to be a real interesting time seeing what consoles, PC, and other gaming devices look like a few short years from now.

It would probably be a lot clearer cut if we had a D15TR4, but here we are I suppose. If AIOs were the silver bullet to cooling their manufacturers wish they were I'd imagine a lot less builds would be including D15s, Silver Arrows, and DRP4s. I think any in depth look at costs with proper fans and sustained loads would lead you reasonably to my position. If not we'll have to respectfully disagree on that. Also the whole what if scenario for a tubing leak or dead pump ect. If I was going to go liquid, I'd do it right or not at all. The giant phase changer weirdo while cool, is definitely not the cooler for me.

On a loop, I'm not ready to take the plunge just yet. AIOs in my opinion are still not in the same class of cooling as a well thoughtout and properly designed top tier air build. DRP4TR4 from what I've seen may be quieter but does not have the dissipation of either of the two I'm looking at. Although with the state of cooling reviews at current, I'd even be willing to question the tests of that cooler at this point.

Sup LTT Forum, I've been doing a lot of digging recently trying to compare larger based coolers for an upcoming sTRX4 platform build that I'm planning. Although I've gone through the usual suspects including but not limited to FrostyTech, HardOCP/Forums, Anandtech, Toms, and really everyone else, I've yet to see anything I'd consider a fair comparison to judge the best cooler for this build, or even on older X399 reviews. Using the data I have and knowing the basics of the products and lineups it seems like the two most capable air coolers currently in existence for the platform are the Thermalright Silver Arrow TR4 and the Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3. The comparison is tough with reviews that contain both not being consistent on which provides better temps in their results. These reviews are also not testing both with the same fans for a true 1:1 comparison, usually opting for out-of-the-box fan configuration instead. For my build I've settled on the NF-A14 PPC3000 fans, 2 if Noctua, 3 if Thermalright because dual tower. I think we'd all agree for a pressure focused heatsink fan its hard to pick something much better than the A14s. Even the newer A15s are lower in pressure and although packing 150mm on 120mm mounts, I've yet to see a proper comparison of the two so I'll stick with what I know. I'm wondering if anyone here has : -experience with air cooling on this platform, -experience with or good comparison data for either of the 2 coolers I'm debating, or -any further data on the A14 vs A15 fans that I might have overlooked. While doing my research for this build its been a really troubling look at the state of hardware reviewing as a whole as someone who came into this in early LGA775 days. The 'roundups' of old seem to be long gone, and usually missing key products to make the roundup a good source of data. While places like GamersNexus seem to relish very in depth 'PCB level' analysis on some products, I'm seeing an abundance of 'reviews' using questionable methodologies and shying away from deeper technical details of a product. The lack of detail and proper testing in cooling right now seems a bit nuts, and I'm concerned about the space in general right now, though I guess thats a separate topic. Any help or insight would be appreciated.

Currently using a 5820k @ 4GHz.

I'm familiar with that article. I also read this, which appears to be using a Corsair CLC, which I believe the Tisis can be superior to. I had a couple others I read that I'll try to find a cite, but I do believe it to be possible. Edit: Here. Uses D15 and 110i GT. I believe the Tisis has the potential to beat them. I'm going to wait until I do a Threadripper build for a friend or client, which should be sometime in the next 6mos before I consider using it myself. Although I know this isn't defensible I've never had an AMD build that 'feels' quite as fast as an Intel build of the same time period. Right, so until the 1080Ti becomes lacking @ 1440p, I'll be keeping it.

If you had read the original post you'd know that the 3 Cryroig 140mms are going on the Tisis. As for the rest: -The last 2 AMD builds I had (Phenom II 955, FX-8350) I was not very pleased with. Although I agree Ryzen/Threadripper are quite compelling, I don't know that I'm ready to jump to the red team at this juncture. -I think 4.5 is a very reasonable OC target from the reviews and threads I've gone through. Its well known that the 7900x is very power hungry and in turn produces a lot of heat, but I think with this setup I should hit my 4.5 mark, and possibly a smidge higher. I can also site several sources of the D15 being as effective as an H100i if not more so, and I believe the Tisis can be even better. I say in my OP that it is a bit of a gamble but I don't think enough data is around on the Tisis to make a firm judgement right now. Unless LTT feels like doing a full workup on it in the next month (which is doubtful), I'm going to roll the dice.

1080Ti is already purchased and in my current rig. I've always preferred 1 more powerful card vs 2 less powerful ones. At this point the only GPU upgrade I'd consider is a Titan XP. Which I may do after this build is completed if I find my 1080Ti lacking.

Greetings LTT forum, I am currently gearing up for a major rebuild to replace my current X99 build. I'll be using this for gaming, perhaps a bit of streaming, and some light encoding work. Anything marked purchased will be coming out of my current rig. My target OC for the processor will be somewhere between 4.5-5GHz. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i9-7900X 3.3GHz 10-Core Processor ($1030.29 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK - TISIS CORE EDITION Fanless CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste ($12.82 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI - X299 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA2066 Motherboard ($287.28 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Corsair - Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($493.25 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung - 960 Pro 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($620.56 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00) Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00) Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card (Purchased For $0.00) Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.48 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Titanium 1000W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($277.11 @ SuperBiiz) Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-211UBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($118.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) Sound Card: Creative Labs - Sound Blaster Audigy Rx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card (Purchased For $0.00) Case Fan: Aerocool - DS 140mm Black 93.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.82 @ OutletPC) Case Fan: Aerocool - DS 140mm Black 93.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.82 @ OutletPC) Case Fan: Aerocool - DS 120mm Black 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.91 @ OutletPC) Case Fan: Aerocool - DS 120mm Black 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.91 @ OutletPC) Case Fan: Aerocool - DS 120mm Black 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.91 @ OutletPC) Case Fan: CRYORIG - XF140 76.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($18.06 @ OutletPC) Case Fan: CRYORIG - XF140 76.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($18.06 @ OutletPC) Case Fan: CRYORIG - XF140 76.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($18.06 @ OutletPC) Fan Controller: Lamptron - CW611-B Fan Controller ($85.58 @ Newegg) Monitor: AOC - AG271QG 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor ($669.80 @ Best Buy) Other: Audio Extension ($17.00) Other: Front Panel Extension ($11.00) Other: Fan Extensions x5 ($35.00) Other: 24p, 8p ATX, 8p PCI, 6p PCI Ext Cables ($70.00) Other: Bitfenix White LED Strip ($33.00) Total: $4011.70 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-08 09:16 EDT-0400 A lot of these choices will not make sense at first glance. 'What the frak is that cooler?' That cooler was reviewed in a roundup by Anandtech as competing well with a D15 using 50% slower fans. Its my belief that when given better airflow that it has the potential to beat a D15. I am putting that to the test. And if it doesn't work out, I'll pull the D15 off my current build. The 3 Cryorig fans listed will be going on it. 'A ~55$ case for a 4k$ build? Wat?' Believe it or not its extremely difficult to find a case that gives me exactly what I'm looking for. It is thoughtfully laid out and should allow me to keep a very tasteful aesthetic while still using things like LEDs and two tone fans. I don't want a full tower behemoth, I need front panel bays in a time where they are being eliminated on most offerings, and I need the PSU covered/shrouded while still having a large window. I think this case is going to be a really good value buy, and if I'm disappointed with it when it gets here it may be time to pony up 800$ to Caselabs. x.x My other option is finding, buying, and painting the interior of an NZXT Whisper and figuring out how to modernize the cooling and add a window which is a bit more dremel work than I'm comfortable with. 'Why the frak are you spending hundreds of dollars on cables?' For as much as my build performs it needs to look the part. One area I hate my current build in is the cabling, and I've done all I can to manage it. I'm going to see if I can get myself to the level of build I've seen in threads on Anandtech, OverclockersClub, and HardOCP, and really step up my game in how the finished product looks. I guess we'll find out. The shop I chose to get most of my power extensions from seems to be a small but dedicated outfit, and since the price isn't much different from what some Bitfenix Alchemy cables would cost me, I figured why not. I also really love the color options they have. To further match all of the aesthetics I'm considering painting my GPU shroud as well. The rest of the parts I think are pretty self explanatory. They are top class performers from known brands. I doubt there's much I may have missed but if anyone wants to give cause for changes I'm happy to hear it. I'm planning to have this done by Christmas if all goes to plan. Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated. -Ex