Gene Starwind

Where can I find a good one?

How reliably can this mini OC up to 2 GHz? And would temps and noise be an issue?

I am selling my RX 470 and RX 480 that I am using in xfire, and I am going to purchase a new GPU to tide me over until volta hits. I purchased the two cards for about $330, and I am going to get about $530 after Ebay, paypal, and shipping. I am using a BenQ XL2730z monitor, which does have freesync, but it's not worth keeping right now. The polaris cards are selling for way too much right now for that to make sense. Heck, if I bought one, I think I would feel bad about using it instead of selling it for $400, and they are nearly as expensive as these far superior options anyway. This is a stop gap until the Volta hits, and the price of the soon to release Vega cards drop. Though, if AMD doesn't want to play ball, I will buy an 1170. Freesync be damned. What says you LTT?! PS: Also, how well would the mini OC compared to the other 1070s?!

Get 1700 and oc it

For gaming, which is what I was talking about, yes it is.

Under normal circumstances, GPU Bound, the difference would be so small on intel, it would be hard to discern it from the margin of error.

Only when the CPU is maxed out, which doesn't really mean anything. Any CPU would see extra benefits in such a scenario.

Thanks, http://www.ebay.com/itm/381818788208?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT F4-4000C19D-16GTZKW I was told by the Gksill support that this was samsung single rank DDR4 CPUZ says it's single rank.. I have not been able to verify that it is indeed using Samsung memory though.

Yah, that doesn't help me.

Ryzen sees huge gaming benefits from OC'ing the memory. If I had an intel CPU, then you would be right, and I wouldn't bother.

I want to OC my memory on my new Ryzen CPU, but I don't feel that I fully understand it. I understand the concept of loosening timings, but it feels like I am just pulling random numbers out of my ass.

The taichi is the best option honestly.

The problem you are having is that you are only looking at multithreading adoption in gaming from one year to the next, so the change seems small, and so you then assume it's irrelevant. What you are doing is akin to looking at the weather, and claiming that climate change is bullshit. Battlefield 1 multiplayer will even bring an i7 7700k to it's knees! http://image.prntscr.com/image/5dc3506cb2874c8ea23ced0bdd278a47.png That's a ryzen CPU absolutely destroying a 7700k in BF1. The average FPS is about the same, but the frame time latencies proves that the experience is far superior on the R7. The 4 core i5 would literally be shitting itself in the above scenario. That is the future of gaming!

The 7700k is only better in the short term, and the 6900k is 3x the price of the 1700.

And 2 years from now the consoles with have an 8 core Zen CPU in them... You are comparing Ryzen to the 6900k when it suits you, and the 7700k when it suits you. No CPU would win like that...