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Incognito Clown

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  1. I'd love to see some testing done on SATA data cables. According to some forums the ones included with your motherboard are bad and you should never use them, but I think most people do actually use them and I've not heard many complaining about faulty SATA cables. I did however get some UDMA CRC SMART errors on my Unraid box that were caused by some faulty ones.
  2. Updated my bios, no change. Googled for a little bit and found that others are getting way better temps with their Corsair H100i v2's. 1.35V and getting 71 degrees during prime95. Some other dude is reporting 70 degrees for gaming, 85 degrees intel burn test. https://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190710
  3. That are my motherboards stock settings indeed, not intel spec/stock. But yes this is turned on by default on my motherboard. So motherboard "stock" settings will have my CPU run between 4.7GHz and 5.0GHz all the time. I believe this was called MCE but could be mixing up terms here. I am not running the latest BIOS. I am running BIOS version F3 (which it shipped with). Newest version is F10b.
  4. Ah okay so these spikes in temps are expected, and there is not much I can do about it in terms of cooling. Other than to change the voltage, or start lapping the die and such. Already using Kryonaut thermal paste, so the paste should be fine I guess. Redid the thermal paste as well at some point. Made sure the AIO's CPU block is firmly mounted to the MOBO... Was worried that maybe my AIO was getting too old and maybe the fins that are on the coldplate were getting dirty or whatever
  5. So what youre saying is that maybe I need a bigger radiator. Which I'd be fine with, but I dont see why that would help for like the first 10 seconds of a benchmark where the cores already hit the 90s. At that point the water hasnt even started to warm up basically.
  6. I have heard of that, but I am not sure if I'm comfortable doing that. Just curious if this performance is expected with this cpu+aio with these voltage/frequency settings.
  7. Since the cores kind of immediately hit 90+ degrees when starting the benchmark in Cinebench R20, I am not really expecting fans to be the issue here, but maybe that the block thats on the cpu doesnt transfer the heat away from the cpu fast enough? The AIO is almost 4 years old now, but I have used it for an i5 first, so dont really have any performance stats of it when it was new that I could compare it to.
  8. Pump speed is set to extreme (3000rpm instead of 2000rpm) and the fan speed is a custom profile, as I am using Noctua Industrial NF-12 fans instead of the default Corsair fans.
  9. Hey all! I am using a i9 9900k, with MCE enabled in the bios, so it runs at 4.7GHz all-core all day. I've manually set the VCore to 1.280 in the bios, as it was pulling 1.392 volt (according to hwinfo) when it was set to auto. This made the cpu get really hot extremely fast, and 1.280V with a medium load line setting seems to be just as stable (no BSODs, no WHEAs). According to hwinfo my CPU is using about 1.230V when under load. (same results with "auto" load line and 1.310 VCore in BIOS) When playing games that use about 50% of the cpu, my CPU (package) averages around 60-75 degrees Celcius. Running Cinebench R20 for like 1 run, will get the CPU package to reach 99 degrees (which seems to be the max value reported by hwinfo) and starts thermal throtteling. The liquid in my AOI will eventually reach 50 degrees Celcius after a minute or 10. I am worried these temps are a little high for an undervolted i9 (with MCE enabled) with a Corsair AIO (240mm). Are these temps expected with this AIO? Would temps improve with another AIO or air cooler? Set up: Front-mounted radiator, pull. (case has 3 exhaust fans). Case: NZXT H440 case. Having the case front off (eliminating the case being a bottleneck here) doesn't decrease temps. Cooler: Corsair H100i V2, with 2x Noctua NF-12 Industrial 2000rpm (running at 1000 rpm till 40 degrees, then 1500 rpm). Pump is set to performance mode (3000rpm). Using Kryonaut thermal grizzly. Room temp: 22-24 degrees
  10. Thanks @paddy-stone and @Valkyrie Lenneth. It turned out to be my PSU after all. I switched the power supply in my gaming rig (the faulty one) with the one from my NAS. Both systems ran fine after that for 1,5 months. When swapping them back my gaming pc crashed again within 2 days. At that point I was pretty sure the issue was with the PSU. The NAS is on 24/7 but uses way less power than my pc (<50w I'd guess). Seems that the PSU was just no longer able to reliably handle higher loads. I sent the PSU in for warranty to Corsair. They sent me a new one within a week. Great service ? The new one has been working flawlessly for a month now
  11. I'm planning on buying an 1440p ultra wide high refresh rate IPS monitor. I'm currently looking at LG's offerings. They have two variants of the same model: the LG 34GK950F-B and the LG 34GK950G-B. Both are 34" (AH)IPS, 3440x1440, 8bit+FRC, 400 cd/m2, 98% p3. The F model is the FreeSync 2 version. Natively supports 48Hz-144Hz. This model goes for €1049 where I live. The G model is the G-Sync version. Supports up to 100Hz natively, 120Hz with overclock. This model goes for €1149. I have an NVIDIA graphics card (1080TI) and I would like to use some form of variable refresh rate technology to sync the refresh rate of the monitor with the fps from my game, since not every game I play will run at 100+ fps on that resolution. I know that NVIDIA now supports adaptive sync (FreeSync) technology on their graphics cards. However, this F model is not "G-Sync Compatible" (according to NVIDIA). And when I check the Master Testing List, it seems that not-officially supported monitors might do fine in some titles, but can have issues (like flickering, frame skipping, etc.) in others. According to threads online, these issues can sometimes be fixed by restarting the pc, replugging the monitor, reinstalling drivers, etc. This adaptive sync support for NVIDIA cards still sounds somewhat unstable to me. I'd prefer to just have a monitor that works 100% of the time (aka just in all titles), without having to manually change or fix things. Would I, because of that, be better off going for the G model, even if its a bit more expensive and only supports up to 120Hz? Or would you still recommend to go for the F version which is cheaper and supports up to 144Hz?
  12. @paddy-stone Turned out the fan header was not set to a fixed value of 100% (anymore?). Fixed that, issue with the AIO solved. I also came up with the idea to make hwinfo log its values to a log file, which already paid of (sadly) because my pc crashed twice this evening (2nd time not logged)... CPU temps were perfectly normal the package hit 90 degrees for a second during the 4 hour game session and never went any higher. Out of all the logs, I've only seen one thing that scared me a little; the psu temps and its fan speed. The last log entry (so up to 1-2 seconds before the crash) logged the following: PSU Temperature [C]: 69 PSU Temperature2 [C]: 47.5 PSU Fan [RPM]: 0 PSU Power (sum) [W]: 363.54 PSU Efficiency [%]: 91.6 Those temps where both the highest temps reported during the 4 hour game session. Earlier, the fan of the PSU did start spinning at 50.5 (temp sensor 1) and 37.3 (temp sensor 2) degrees. After the crash I booted the system again and it stopped after 2 seconds again. After 30 seconds I retried, it did start, but after 6 minutes in-game it crashed again. This all makes me think the PSU overheated...
  13. @paddy-stone Alright, I just found out the pump of my H110i v2 is reporting that its spinning between 1,290 RPM and 1,560 RPM. In the iCUE profiler it is set to extreme (which should be 3,000 RPM). The 2 other profiles (quiet and balanced) should let the pump spin at 2,000 RPM. I've not seen such low speeds before, and I've checked them every day last 3 weeks. It also no longer reports the fan speed (although they are spinning). The problem persists even after rebooting the system.
  14. @paddy-stone Well, I do have another desktop PC which I use as my NAS. I could swap its Corsair CX650M with the Corsair RM750i thats currently in my game PC and see how it performs. If that does not work I can also swap the memory sticks. As a last resort I can also take my old (pre-upgrade) motherboard and CPU and run that for a while, but I'd rather skip that one ? I sadly do not have a second CPU cooler which would be sufficient for the i9. Some of those air coolers are not too expensive though, so I'd not mind to buy one just to try it.
  15. @Valkyrie Lenneth @paddy-stone After 21 days without any crashes, I've got one today... This was without the CPU under volt applied, with the JDEC mem spec (not xmp) and also with the GPU temp+power slider reset to auto (was 116% / 90 degrees). List of the crashes so far. "Sata ext" stands for a sata power extension cable I'm running to my sata SSD's (2). Thats besides the mobo/CPU the only new part. My pc runs fine for weeks. Even when gaming on it for 4-5 hours a day. The motherboard and the CPU are the only "new" things in the pc, but if they would be broken, I'd expect way more issues. Not once every 2-3 weeks. I'm not really sure how to proceed. Any ideas? One thing that came up is that maybe it could be my Corsair AIO. I know that it gets power via the 4 pin fan header. What if it for some reason does not get enough power for a few seconds which would then cause its pump to stop spinning and the CPU temps to climb rapidly. I always have msi afterburner open, but I expect temps to climb too fast in such case to actually be able to notice it before it thermal-shuts down. However, I did not notice any lag spikes before the crash (caused by thermal throttling), but then again, I've no idea how fast the CPU overheats if you give it 0 cooling for a few seconds.
  16. @paddy-stone Alright I will run the PC like this for a while. Will report back here in a month or when the problem occurs again
  17. Thanks for your suggestion @paddy-stone. I've clicked "Load optimized defaults" in the Bios. My undervolting is now reset and the memory is running at JDEC speeds instead of XMP. Does this accomplish the same as a CMOS reset by taking out the battery (which is conveniently placed behind the gpu...)? @Valkyrie Lenneth I've not gotten a BSOD. Therefore I don't see a bccode in the event viewer.
  18. Can you recall what the BSOD message was? It should give you a stop code at the bottom of the message. Also, have you checked Windows Event Viewer for log entries? You can find this program pre installed on your pc by typing in 'eventvwr' in the windows start menu. Open up the folder "Widows Logs" on the left and select "System". Now sort on the "Level" column and scroll to the top to see the "critical" errors.
  19. Last month, my PC has crashed 3 times: it instantly shuts down (not a windows shutdown, everything just goes black, with the exception of the motherboard rgb's). This happened during gaming (COD and F1). However, I pretty much game every day between 3-4 hours a day, and it "only" happened 3 times, so I cant really tell if it only happens while gaming. It kind of looks like a sudden loss of power, but my monitors and router stay on and are connected to the same power outlet, so it is not a power outage. Entries of "Kernel-Power" in Windows Event Viewer: 17/05/2019, 19:56:20 - The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly. 29/05/2019, 19:30:27 - The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly. 10/06/2019, 13:18:34 - The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly. I've never had such an issue before may 17th. (possibly) related info: I've upgraded my motherboard and CPU on march 8th (about 40 days before the problem occurred for the first time). During this upgrade I also rebuild/reseated everything else in my PC. My CPU is undervolted, but does pass stress tests and does not throw WHEA errors (hwinfo always runs in the background and would notify me of these). My power supply is a Corsair RM750i which is about 2 years old. It should be able to handle up to 750W, and I've never seen my peak power draw anywhere above 430/450W, so it should be sufficient. I've never seen CPU temps above 73 degrees Celcius while gaming. However, I've not been able to check the temps at the exact moment of the crash, since I can obviously not see it coming. GPU temps are normally sitting between 68 and 72 degrees Celcius. However, I've hit 79 degrees in the past on a hot summer day, when playing a racing game for multiple hours on multiple screens. This never caused any issues, and the previously mentioned crashes where not on such hot days. Running stress tests like AIDA64 for an hour do run normally. CPU temps then do go up to around 85 degrees, but this still does not cause the system to crash or even throw whea errors. The crash seems to happen instantly. The game does not slow down or freeze up and fans do not start or stop spinning just before the crash. System info: i9-9900k at default clocks, but undervolted (1.280V in bios) Gigabyte Aorus Ultra Z390 mobo Hydro h100i 2x120mm CPU cooler, as intake in the front 3x noctua case fans, as exhaust 1080TI, no custom overclock 2x8GB ram, XMP 3000 profile 2x sata ssd, 1x sata hdd, 0x m.2 Does anyone have any suggestions to what the cause of the problem could be, or what my next step should be?
  20. Do all motherboards with DDR4 slots have XMP support? And how about OEM systems?
  21. I recently bought a i9 9900k cpu which should according to Intel's spec run at 1.39 volt. This is therefor also the core voltage (vCore) that was set by default, in the bios of my Gigabyte Aorus z390 Ultra motherboard. Like pretty much every chip, my i9 can actually run stock speeds at much less voltage. I've set the vCore in my bios to 1.26 volts, which seems stable (no hard or soft WHEA errors yet). Although the VRM does supply 1.25 volts when idle, it only supplies 1.14 to 1.17 volts under full synthetic load (for example during an AIDA64 system stability test). At first I thought my VRM was misbehaving, but I quickly found out that this is expected behavior and is called Vdroop. It seems to be a feature that lowers the average core voltage during load, to reduce voltages spikes when switching between idle and load which could otherwise damage the CPU. (correct me if I'm wrong) However, dropping over 0.1 volt (idle -> load) seems huge to me. Is it? I've also seen people talking about Load Line Calibration, or LLC for short. This is a feature most motherboards support, which can reduce the just mentioned Vdroop. What is usually better: Higher Vcore setting without touching the LLC, or a lower Vcore setting and an increased LLC level? And if I'm seeing 0.1V differences between idle and load scenario's, would it then be recommended to increase the LLC level? Also a little side question; if (professional) overclockers are talking about "we did x ghz at x volt" do they usually talk at the actual voltage during loads? Or the voltage that is applied in the bios? I did see a video of someone from Optimum Tech who said that probably every i9 could run stocks between 1.15 and 1.25 volts. I did have to enter 1.26 volts in the bios, but it actually runs at 1.55 on average during loads. Am I having a good or a bad silicon chip here?
  22. Today I checked my build and also tightened the screws further Each screw could still be tightened once or twice. Oh ye it does But after just one cinebench run the liquid temperature barely increased. After playing a game for an hour or two today, or the aida64 stress test yesterday, the liquid temp settled at around 40 indeed. According to some reviews (e.g. Buildzoid), the VRMS on my Gigabyte Aorus Ultra board should be quite good, so I'm guessing there should be some kind of this setting somewhere in the BIOS. What is the point of increasing the LLC though? If I understand it correctly: - I increase the LLC till the idle voltage matches the vcore voltage under load. - Then I set the core voltage in the bios to somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.175v (since this was the "actual" voltage during the stress test). Does this have any benefits? The voltage during load will stay the same, so the temperature output will also remain the same right?
  23. I've tried out some different "Core Voltage" settings. I tested using Aida64 System Stress Test (CPU, FPU, cache and system memory) and at least 5 cinebench runs. 1.260v seems stable, no WHEA errors after 1 hour stress test + 5 cinebench runs. 1.250v does throw WHEA errors during Aida64. 1.260v test results (boot up, 1 hour aida 64, 5x cinebench, shutdown): Note: I've used HWI to read out all of the above values, except the "Vcore (V) Bios" According to a video that Optimum Tech did, he expected pretty much every i9 to do stock settings between 1.150v and 1.250v. So I guess I've been unlucky when it comes to the silicon lottery ? Or are there other (voltage) settings I should thinker around with as well? Btw, temperatures are totally not an issue anymore . During stress testing it did not even go above 81.
  24. Oohh I did not know that! Thanks man! I'll go lower the voltage after I've cleaned up my cable mess. That will presumably also help with keeping temps in check. What are your thoughts about the immediate jump to 90+ degrees, and then back to 30 degrees when the test is done? The liquid cooler I'm using doesn't give a kick, it says the liquid temperature is about 30 degrees. The fans spin up, but it seems the temperatures are "trapped" in the cpu or between the cpu heatsink and the liquid cooler..? I've not tested games yet, but I guess I'll see lower and maybe more consistent temps there. Oh and also thanks for helping me in that other thread where I was still choosing a cpu
  25. What cpu do you have? And can you see its usage during these scenes? City scenes in GTA V seem really cpu intensive which might be causing a bottleneck. You could (possibly) reduce this effect by turning down the render distance and density in the Advanced Graphics, and the Graphics settings.
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