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If I use my old case which I don't really like and my old sata drives this is the best I can do with an amd 8300 in the build without fighting with potential bios problems that this cpu likes to cause. This also gives room to OC if I ever actually need to which I doubt. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD FX-8300 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor ($104.95 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 R5 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.89 @ OutletPC) Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Jet) Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) Total: $411.81 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-03 20:47 EST-0500 Then add in a few 3$ adapters so I can use my older 500w OCZ stealth stream PSU which could possibly work with this board hopefully otherwise I will have to buy a new one.

Minus the obvious 0.2-0.3ghz increase on the clock speed, I don't understand what is better. I have tried reading comparisons but that added to the confusion is there something that actually explains it for a normal person? Considering an almost 50$ price difference I cannot say for sure which is better just based on that either.

And it saves money so I may do that instead of getting a new PSU. I will keep that in mind as I am tinkering with the list provided to make it work for a 8300 granted a couple other things will change though lol. Edit:: Concerning gpus why does pretty much everyone go with nvidia instead of amd i know they have faster clock speeds but other than that is there a reason when it comes to gaming and rendering/editing?

What is wrong with an apu? She doesn't game or anything most she is going to use onboard graphics for is watching movies. About jado's build its nice but I dont think it has enough power for heavily modded games as my now fried windows 7 computer had an intel dual core and could barely handle the games listed when modified. Diablo 2 in general is more cpu based than gpu based. I heard minecraft in general is pretty much only cpu based as well so not sure if a gpu will even help that. I have read a lot of reviews concerning ASRock boards in general and 75% of them are bad is this board the exception? I will tinker around with your suggested build and see if I can maybe make it using the 8300 or not so I have the rendering/editing possibility while still being in my price range. I have a couple PSUs that have been extremely reliable for many years and if I find some converters for the power plugs to make them sata I will probably use one of them instead.

This is something I planned to build for my step-mom as she doesn't need much but doesn't have a lot of space. She already has a monitor and I have win 7 home so that should work for her but for me I need something beefier I think anyway. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD A8-7600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($76.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: MSI A68HI AC Mini ITX FM2+ Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg) Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Jet) Storage: Western Digital RE4 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.00 @ Amazon) Case: Azza Z Mini ITX Tower Case ($55.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Logisys 480W ATX Power Supply ($12.88 @ OutletPC) Optical Drive: LG CU20N Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($13.99 @ Best Buy) Other: StarTech 6-Inch Slimline SATA to SATA Female/Male Adapter with Power (SLSATAADAP6) ($15.76 @ Amazon) Total: $408.46 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-03 18:40 EST-0500

I have checked craigslist but anything close is well over my budget and stuff far away they cannot say that everything works completely, so I plan on just building the thing myself which saves gas and time. My craiglist section is WV.

Budget is around 400$ US. Aims are gaming like modded minecraft and modded diablo 2 with the possibility of youtube if I decide to get into that. There might be a possibility of more games if something peaks my interest but as of now nothing has. The case has to have a dvd drive bay. Monitor going to use my 1080p 3x" vizio flatscreen max res is 1920x1080 OS will only be needed dependent on ram used in your suggestions. I own Windows 7 Home 64bit. I have a keyboard and mouse and and sata dvd drive already. Why am I upgrading is more of a question of why haven't I before now lol. Windows xp pro, 1gb of ram, 2.93ghz intel celeron d processor, old msi motherboard that is IDE only. I thought about just doing a build without any input then I was like well lets see what the folks here can come up with.

Oh so that is how fan sizes work, one of these days I wish companys wouldnt do things like that to make everything less confusing. Now I have a better idea in my head on what all I am going to do to this case to make it into a decent PC. I just have to remember to make some dust filters for it so my dogs don't clog it up. Thanks for all of your help and insight on this W-L.

Measure inbetween the fan holes in what way exactly? I measured from the top of the top fan hole to the bottom of the bottom fan hole and it was 55mm. So if I am supposed to measure from the bottom of the top to the top of the bottom then I would say it would be a 50mm fan. Though now I'm wondering if the PSU would actually do a better job at exhuasting the heat yet at the same time if I get one of those that shuts off the fan when not under a heavy load by accident I'd hate to see the internal temps. Considering how small the holes are in the front panel area I could just make 4 of them a bit bigger and screw in a 140mm sp fan. I didn't think of that idea before your zip tie idea that would work a lot better for pushing air than 4 low cfm tiny fans would thanks for another great idea W-L.

Seems like it is a Raidmax case after all thanks for clearing that up W-L. Does anyone know the fan sizes minus the side windows fans?

I bought a case from a flee market that looks almost exactly like this case: https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16811156018 The differences are there is 4 80?mm fan spots in front of the HDD cage and a single 50mm or 60mm exhuast fan place under the psu mounting area, as well as it doesn't have the fan grills on the windowed side panel. Plus it is missing the obvious raidmax imprints inside the case. Does anyone know what case this actually is? (W-L answered this question) I am planning on putting brand new parts inside of it and adding some externals to it as well but not knowing exactly what case this is is hindering my plans a bit.