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*Hurricane Florence is heading for North Carolina*

 

Donald Trump: "It's tremendously big and tremendously wet."

 

NO SHIT!

  1. handymanshandle

    handymanshandle

    It's headed straight for Epic Games HQ, while I'm not religious. Maybe it's god's way of getting rid of Fortnite.

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  3. TacoSenpai

    TacoSenpai

    Florence makes me moist

  4. Jtalk4456

    Jtalk4456

    i was really hoping this was a joke... Nope it's real

  5. Jtalk4456

    Jtalk4456

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    They haven't seen anything like what's coming at us in 25, 30 years, maybe ever.

    oh... you mean except for all of the class 4 hurricanes like this one on the list

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Category_4_Atlantic_hurricanes#2001–present

    And you're not counting all the category 5 hurricanes worse than this one...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Category_5_Atlantic_hurricanes

    Well as long as you're excluding the whole history of hurricanes, then yeah we've NEVER seen this before...

  6. Techstorm970

    Techstorm970

    @Jtalk4456 Actually, he's right.  The only time North Carolina has ever actually been hit by a Category 4 is Hurricane Hazel (1954).  For South Carolina, you have to go back to Hugo (1988).  Only three Category 5 hurricanes have hit the United States: Andrew (1992), Camille (1969), and "Labor Day Hurricane" (1935).  Katrina, Rita, and Wilma were Category 5 storms, but had weakened to Category 3s by the time they hit US land.  So, in this context, they're Category 3s.  Harvey, Irma, and Maria were Category 4s for us, although the eastern islands of the Caribbean know them as the Category 5s they were before reaching us.  (Cuba knows Irma as a Cat 5, too.)

  7. Techstorm970

    Techstorm970

    @Jtalk4456 To clarify something I said, Harvey was never a Cat 5.  It was a Cat 4 and hit the US at its strongest.

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    To the best of my knowledge, hurricanes don't tend to strike the Carolinas, at least in a meaningful manner. This one is particularly strange because it's wiping two states out.

  9. Jtalk4456

    Jtalk4456

    @Techstorm970 but he wasn't referring to north carolina specifically, just the hurricane in general

  10. Jtalk4456

    Jtalk4456

    also this hasn't hit land either and might be down to 3 by then, so my point stands

  11. Techstorm970

    Techstorm970

    @Jtalk4456 Ok, so they've "seen" one.  But seeing a Hurricane an experiencing it are humongously different.  There's a difference between seeing somebody else's house destroyed and seeing your own house destroyed.  Back in 2011, soooo many people in North Carolina and Virginia didn't try to get out until Irene was at their doorstep.  They knew about it, they just didn't understand it.

     

    North Carolina doesn't understand what a Category 4 Hurricane REALLY is nearly as well as Florida or the Gulf Coast does.  They don't have the same Hurricane-resistant building codes, or the more updated infrastructure.

  12. Jtalk4456

    Jtalk4456

    again the comment wasn't made towards nc or sc specifically, he just made a statement saying we (the US) haven't seen anything like this. and per your example we in nc HAVE experienced it with Irene. So again my point stands that his statement is just flat out wrong and ridiculous. It's not by accident though, It's him using fear to his advantage. He says it's tremendous and terrible.

    If it's not that bad, he looks better because he handles it easily and the damage was minimal, which he'll claim was due to his quick thinking and preparedness.

    If it IS bad, then he has painted himself already as a victim, with no control over this TREMENDOUS storm. And anything he does to deal with it will be positive PR for it. If he's not doing it quick enough, the problem will be the severity of the storm, not his lack of action. We saw this with puerto rico and hurricane maria

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/12/politics/donald-trump-hurricane-florence-puerto-rico/index.html

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    "We got A Pluses for our recent hurricane work in Texas and Florida (and did an unappreciated great job in Puerto Rico, even though an inaccessible island with very poor electricity and a totally incompetent Mayor of San Juan). We are ready for the big one that is coming!" Trump tweeted.

     

  13. Tech_Dreamer

    Tech_Dreamer

    Nice one JTalk , you went full CNN to make statement about something "being Big" as the only negative thing on what he said , not about him alerting people  , Peurto rico danced out a political drama last time because of their own selfish politicians political affiliation being a big thing rather than taking care of the aid coming in. played out the chaos for their own PR stunts amidst it . accused Trump acting like shit ironically.

  14. Jtalk4456

    Jtalk4456

    @Tech_Dreamer went full cnn? I only had the link there because that's the first link that came up with that quote. The quote was from Trump, not CNN. He Said it; the fact that cnn quoted him saying it is irrelevant to it's meaning and accuracy. If you want to believe that the disaster in Puerto Rico was a success you can believe that all you want. But I'd love to see you give a reason the president is talking like a toddler who thinks he cleaned up the room good enough, but thinks mommy and daddy are wrong when they point out the toys under the bed.Whether you agree with my view of him or not, trying to deny his political tactics exist is just silly. It's not an opinion whether he uses fear to gain support, that's a well known fact, it's his main tactic. The opinion comes down to whether you think we should actually be afraid of what he says and whether fear should decide our actions or not. 

  15. Tech_Dreamer

    Tech_Dreamer

    It was from trump , But speaking of "it is irrelevant to it's meaning and accuracy "  did the "success" statement directly reflect the tragedy occurred or was it about the response with more refined aid & military intervention that was brought in , compared to other disastrous responses aided in slowly like previous predecessors had to witness .  ofcourse we can look at it both ways & that's whats happening in this discussion,  which side to lean on more, we both can say either one of those things. unless you just want it that way. about "using fear to gain support" , yeah .. pretty much every stunt we've seen so far from the other side about him speaks volumes.

  16. Jtalk4456

    Jtalk4456

    previous predecessors...every stunt... from the other side... very vague. If you want to debate, remember you need facts and reasoning, not just your own conspiratorial opinions

  17. TacoSenpai

    TacoSenpai

    There are many many complex characters in anime.  One such example is uhhh...Mr. Sweeny from Ned's Declassified.

     

     

  18. Tech_Dreamer

    Tech_Dreamer

    Speaking of conspiratorial opinions :  is he a Russian influenced & elected president?  maybe i should switch on to some good tv news to hear some "vague" facts on it,  or vague facts on how he's is a threat from a foreign nation , or vague facts on his statements being overblown by a 3rd party journalists who thinks he's a threat to all americans & even the world with nuclear threat , statements that trips over the line of honest-investigative journalism and into an opinionated mess.

     

    i should say facts and reasoning subsides on vagueness for stuff that benefits their own openly affiliated party .

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  20. Jtalk4456

    Jtalk4456

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    i should say facts and reasoning subsides on vagueness for stuff that benefits their own openly affiliated party.

    No. Facts don't come from vagueness or political agenda, they come from truth. What you're referring to is opinion.

    Definitions are another example of facts. A main reason I like using them.

  21. Tech_Dreamer

    Tech_Dreamer

    agreed & that's the point,  but when excessive assertions that goes both ways are presented as a single sided fact(s) for a well know point they're obviously making , and this happening over & over again , it tends to loose faith & sometimes it's meaning. you know, getting lost in translation or intentionally making it that way for something.  it's like a blunt axe that was once sharp,  not just this politics, everything in general.  information being targeted and presented to an audience just to influence, some follow & others see through it  & most get confused ,  it downright went from sourced in vagueness to opinions to Hollywood level cheap over assertive gossip .

  22. Jtalk4456

    Jtalk4456

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    but when excessive assertions that goes both ways are presented as a single sided fact(s) for a well know point they're obviously making , and this happening over & over again

    You mean like these statements?

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    maybe i should switch on to some good tv news to hear some "vague" facts on it,  or vague facts on how he's is a threat from a foreign nation , or vague facts on his statements being overblown by a 3rd party journalists who thinks he's a threat to all americans & even the world with nuclear threat , statements that trips over the line of honest-investigative journalism and into an opinionated mess.

     

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