Enderman

All you need is a switch where magic device A is, then just plug your server into that through the long red cable.

If you need more than one device where the server is you can just add another switch at location B.

If you still need the router where the server is you can just plug LAN into it, it doesn't have to be WAN.

The CP1500PFCLCD is better, it's pure sinewave.

Recommended way is to always use DDU to uninstall the current driver then let the nvidia software install the latest driver again, because during the installation it detects what GPU model you're using and tunes stuff for it.

But it will likely still work anyways if you just plug it in without uninstalling/reinstalling drivers.

22 hours ago, GreatnessRD said:

I don't use my Front I/O as much anymore since I've moved a few things to the back of the motherboard, but front I/O is still very, very important, imo. But let's talk about that case in the OP. Was that custom made or what? That bitch spicy.

Haha I made it yeah

Did a small kickstarter called the MYNYMAL PC, which has now ended.

17 hours ago, GenericGamer256 said:

this is a custom case right, so you can put the io wherever you want, you could just hide it at the back with the built in io

It is custom but I'm building them to sell

Just keep the box for a month or two in case you need to ship it back, if they haven't contacted you by then they probably dont know or don't care so feel free to keep it.

I've used samsung TVs only at home as monitors for my PC and they have worked great.

The TLC TV is capable of 4k 120Hz though which I think is pretty sweet...

And LG arguably has the best OLED panels, so yeah I would say just read the rtings reviews and decide

Not without a bunch of latency, as those devices don't have display input capabilities, only output.

You would need to use some kind of screensharing or remote desktop app to view your laptop's output on those devices.

38 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Well, it kind of matters if the system, desktop in this case, lacks Bluetooth entirely.

Luckily I included integrated wifi and bluetooth

7 hours ago, TheGreatestGazoo said:

Wow, nice wrap job. You went vertical over the top which is a nice way to do that, especially if that is the normal view. That is how I did my rack server box, but with 3/4" Walnut veneer plywood ($200 a sheet from Windsor Plywood!). My desk is called "Project Overkill" since it is overbuilt in strength - I'm at about 400 pounds in the 3 cabinets before I add the top and monitor riser. It'll end up being about 500 pounds of solid wood and thick plywood when I am done. My main rig is about 100 pounds when all decked out so I need a solid foundation for it (not IKEA quality).

 

I'm into more high end finishes rather than a 5-foot "looks good enough" finish. When I watched Linus's team do the desk build, I cringed the whole way through because it was not "fine woodworking" that I like for my own projects. It was more like low-end wood gets painted black to hide the imperfections of the cheap wood choices. Butt joints that gets painted over is not going to look good on face fronts. But looks okay on YT videos I guess. "insert burns from LTT fans here". However the picture below shows a terrible joining decision that I would have never made. I would have used different joinery or design decisions to hide that mess but I hope Linus is happy looking at it every day. Up close it must be quite ugly but looking onto the top must be a joy to behold. Maybe they'll call me in one day to build a nice looking desk carcass - I'd do the labour for free and let them video it.

 

Thanks for that tip for taking out the coil. That totally makes sense and I had not thought of that before. We're trying to move out of our house and more into the valley so once that happens, will finish the top and incorporate that. However the housing real estate situation in the lower mainland is so absurd that buying/selling is very difficult without doing anything overly foolish.

Thanks! I kinda picked the easiest possible shape to wrap!

Always been a fan of precision woodworking

LTT desk builds were really sub par woodworking haha

Wasn't even real wood, just MDF lol

18 minutes ago, TheGreatestGazoo said:

Enderman - were you on the old NCIX forums back in the day?

 

On your wooden case - did you mitre the edges on the sides and the top? That is what I am seeing and why it looks so clean looking - nice!

 

I'm a home hobbyist woodworker and I building a computer desk. For the top, I will put in USB ports right into the edge so no ugly box bolted underneath. I'll router in channels for the wires into MDF, epoxy them in, and will probably locate the ports on the side so they can't be seen from the front. Then the whole top will be veneered, likely in walnut to match the boxes. I have build two of the below cabinets out of walnut and maple drawers, plus one more with a door for the middle as this is intended to be an L-shaped desk. I am also thinking of putting in a Qi charger underneath the veneer as well for a hidden wireless charge area - but of course some watts will be lost due to the thickness of the veneer and finish.

 

Also, I prefer the look of the case with the IO ports. Otherwise it just looks like a big wooden box with an unknown purpose.

Very cool project!

I wasn't on the NCIX forum but I joined the LTT one when it was first made!

Also, this may come as a surprise, but the case isn't actually made of real wood...

It's an acrylic cube which is wrapped with textured vinyl

I wanted a design that I could wrap with different materials depending on what customers prefer and sell them

PS - a tip to get back the wireless charging losses from the thickness of the veneer, take the coil out from the charger so that it has no enclosure and that should give you an extra mm or two which will make up for the veneer thickness

11 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

btw i think the design is gorgeous, id just prefer the 2nd approach visually and from a practicality standpoint.

Thank you!

11 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

also having it on the top like many new "fancy" cases is a no go and a practicality nightmare, that is going to kill cables so fast while having no technical advantages whatsoever.

ps: what is minimum required imo

2 USB

1 headphone

as you can see some devices gonna be plugged in 24/7 so its nice to have a second USB for a phone or something.

 

headphone jack, i personally dont use it, but can obviously see the need for a lot of people and having those in the back is just not ideal (cables bending etc)

Thanks for the input

4 hours ago, EDKTech said:

Off topic @Enderman, but you're the first member I've seen at Grand Master level.

I used to post a lot more often, now less so due to work and life stuff but I still love PCs

20 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

It's mainly a convenience thing for me. I could always connect all of those empty USB ports I have at the back to a fancy USB/Headphone jack hub integrated into my desk like this:

Maybe once I get a desk that isn't frankensteined together and have something like this, then I can say goodbye to front I/O on cases. 

That's a good point...

16 hours ago, Giganthrax said:

Front IO every day all the way. 

There's nothing worse than trying to blindly stick a device in the back IO and/or having to get up from your chair to do so. 

What about a small USB hub on a short 3ft cable so you could stick it underneath your desk at the front?

That would eliminate the need for front IO, no?

59 minutes ago, amberisvibin said:

I'd prefer to have a headphone jack at the very least. Having a USB port is handy for game controllers and the occasional pen drive as well. My case has 2 USBs and a headphone jack and it's more than enough.

Thanks for the feedback

18 minutes ago, Be Rock said:

This is just my opinion but I think the idea of having to choose between aesthetics and functionality is a bit far fetched.

The example you are showing is of a very tiny PC - not unlike one Intel's NUCs or any other system in that form factor. I have a lot of experience with such devices and while I am certain that there are plenty of consumers that find them attractive, 100% of the NUCs I have installed for clients were done in schools, who use them not because they are aesthetically pleasing, but because their tiny form factor means they can be tucked away either behind the display (VESA mounts) or mounted under a desk. This helps them stay outside the reach of young children, and prevents accidental drops.

I think this all comes down to how you use your tiny PC. If your system is "out of sight and out of mind" than your IO is probably fixed and isn't going to be used much. If your system sits on your desk at all, regardless of how it looks, you're likely to interact with it and its IO.

This PC is in a small niche, for people who want a PC but one that fits with modern interior design and minimalist aesthetics

You're right, it is very similar to a NUC, just without VESA mounting to put it out of sight.

17 minutes ago, Heliian said:

Regardless of the case design, I rarely use front io.  However, I need front io for the ports.  I hate hubs because they're just another loose part and half the time don't work well. 

 

I also need to have ports on my laptop, tablet and phone.  Again, most of the time it's wireless but there are just times I need it. 

 

I also keep my pc sideways, to the right of the monitor so I can access the rear io easily.  It also puts the glass panel in full view, it's the best side to look at. 

I rerouted the IO to the back panel in this design, so no IO is lost, it's just hidden

15 minutes ago, Nayr438 said:

I personally use the Front IO on my system very frequently. If I however happened to obtain a case where this wasn't present, I would personally just mount a USB hub under my desk.

If I had the choice between the 2 Cases you have shown, I would pick the one without.

Good to know, thanks!

26 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

I prefer to have front io

But in your render, I definitely would prefer not to have it because it's ugly lmao

Would get a USB hub instead

It's not a render I actually built that and it's on my desk

19 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

I think this is a rather strange poll.

 

I use the front I/O regularly and most of the time it's for USB flash drives or external harddrives.

That makes my answers for the 1. and 2. question rather obvious.

 

But even tho I use it so frequently, I'd still say that I'd prefer to not have any front I/O if I wanted to buy your particular case.

Your case is clearly meant to look clean and simple, which is why front I/O would destroy that look. It is also quite small and therefor I could probably just turn the case around and access its I/O that way.

 

And that is why I think this poll is rather strange:

Yes I would want to have front I/O, but not on your case.

 

Edit: If you decide to put fron't I/O into that little box, put it at the top. Makes it easier to plug and unplug stuff with one hand, cause then you've got a surface to push against.

Thanks for the feedback
That was my though when designing this, it's small enough to just reach around or pick up and turn it to plug stuff in.

19 minutes ago, adarw said:

a headphone jack and a power button would be optimal, maybe even throw in a usb c port since most mobos dont have them,

I have the power button on the back currently, and it's quite easy to reach without looking at it or moving the PC

18 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Where is the airflow?

I would never use a hotbox like this,

The poor PC will be tortured.

Big vents at the back, plus it's only a 15W CPU so temps are below 80C.

16 minutes ago, mariushm said:

It could be a laser cut rectangle centered at the bottom ... add some mechanism, for example push button (like on ball point pens) ... you press on the wood rectangle and it clicks out giving you access to the usb ports.

Or instead of push button action , push and slide into a hidden compartment,slide and release to close.

Thta's a cool idea

A little complex but worth considering

1 minute ago, OhioYJ said:

Am I reading #3 wrong, or is it backwards? If aesthetics were first, wouldn't there be no IO, like Image A? Wouldn't Image B and having front IO be the Convenience?

 

With the rate USB ports are disappearing from motherboards, I need all the ports I can get. I have two powered USB hubs sitting on my desk right now.

 

Haha yes thank you  fixed!

And yes I agree about needing more ports, so what I did is reroute the front IO to the back so no IO is lost

4 minutes ago, MultiGamerClub said:

Almost never use front io, couldnt care less.

 

Its only when i need a quick cable or need to format/make iso windows 10 pro or 11 that it is handy.

USB-C is kinda cool too.

 

Sadly the back io usb's are almost all used up now

Part of the reason I went with no front IO was also that the PC is so small it's super easy to just grab it and turn it around to plug something in

Just now, Helpful Tech Wiard said:

fair, but im sure you can find ports that would match.

I mean the port would just be a rectangular or circular hole, if you mean the little plastic piece inside the USB port that's always blue for USB 3.0 or higher...

2 minutes ago, Helpful Tech Wiard said:

front io doesnt have to have asthetic downsides.

put it at the top and make it all black like my meshify c and it doent look bad at all.

 

plus front IO at the top front is more useful imo

Sounds good, thanks for the tip.

Not all configs are black though, I'm making a variety of materials such as concrete, marble, wood, etc

2 minutes ago, rickeo said:

I have no use for front I/O personally but if you're going to do it on there, i'd put it on the side or top.

Alright that's a good idea, side would be less visible for sure!

1 minute ago, RONOTHAN## said:

I have front IO on my case, I just have a keyboard with a USB passthrough so I basically never use it. I never use more than Type A on the front, so a single Type A passthrough is about all I really need. 

Thanks :)

This is the mini PC I have been working on for a while, someone mentioned they wouldn't want one because it has no front IO.

I'm considering adding front IO to future PCs.

What do you guys think?

A: With no front IO

B: with front IO (just an example, could be USB C or other)

15 minutes ago, NickMov83 said:

I will look into this, I have never messed with memory overclock settings before other than using XMP profiles..

I've had ram that crashed when I enabled XMP but worked perfectly fine if I put in the exact same settings manually.

Check that the ram works without XMP enabled.

Then try settings the timings, frequency, and voltage manually according to your ram specs instead of using XMP.

Yeah, even if it's not on the QVL, 99% of the times there are no issues.