Kukielka

Official slides from AMD back in July confirm 749$ MSRP.

No shit, sherlock.

No shit, sherlock.

No shit, sherlock.

No shit, sherlock.

No shit, sherlock.

No shit, sherlock.

Official slides from AMD back in July confirm 749$ MSRP.

This made me chuckle.

This made me chuckle.

Thanks, ok, fixed

You should put this in your main post.
I was quite a bit confused by that title, and it seems like others were as well.

Yep, and that's all we know, frankly if 5Ghz is a more often than not occurrence then that's awesome, but to expect it is foolish because when has any tech product released satisfied the expectation?

pretty solid translation, I am rather surprised.

Ahh yes, The GTX 480, followed by 3x 290s, followed by 2x 1080ti.
Quite the ride.

@Kukielka
 
Since I mentioned the WSA, AMD has amended it again.
 
I'm going to go with "expect I/O dies on GloFo 14nm through 2021", haha. @leadeater , I hadn't actually seen that the WSA lasts until 2024. Which, amazingly enough, is exactly the same period AMD will be producing Polaris GPUs until. (AMD appears to be selling a lot of them into the embedded device market right now.)

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OP, you really need to stop reading wccftech.  In fact I would be in favor of banning links to wccftech until after the damn thing is finally released.

Weren't there like 2 threads that were pretty much the same already?
 

Problem is, Intel is manufacturing huge monolithic dies, by design the costs are much higher and the yields are much lower. Long-term this is not sustainable 

Yes, plus introducing Premium Product marketing to the CPU space. There is enough of a market for it to be worth the trouble.
At stock speeds, slightly, but Cinebench R15 actually doesn't scale greatly beyond about 24 threads. The efficiency per additional thread starts dropping off pretty fast in the 20s, so it's not the great test to demonstrate with, at least at that many cores. Blender would have been more interesting, but R15 is repeatable enough that people have an idea what it means.
 
Oddly enough, Jayz2centz got his recently to post at 4.9 Ghz all-core on the i9-7980XE, and generally stable at 4.8 Ghz. However, he was doing 750w load in R15. So there's Stock, then there's ridiculous-level cooling options. Ryzen will hit the wall around 4.3 Ghz (on these parts), but 4.2 Ghz all-core, for 32 cores, should be interesting.

Indeed it's not sustainable.
It's just an interim thing that they can do for the next two years until they have new architectural and process developments. They can take that hit financially for now (because they can afford it) if they want to completely block AMD from getting a foothold in the server market. I am not saying they will do this, I am just saying it's one option if they want to shut out AMD from the lucrative server market.
 
I agree the more likely scenario is that they will continue to sell their server CPUs at profit and maximize cash-flow, and resign themselves to the fact that AMD is going to get 5-10% CPU server market share.
 
The latter scenario is what AMD wants, because just these few percentage points of market share means loads of money for AMD. And it means they have got into the big data centers around the world and built the right relationships with server guys like Dell, HP etc. Breaking into the server market again is not easy, so this first hurdle is the biggest one for AMD.

Thats the point of cost cuts. They have the money to win a monolithic war of attrition. Problem for intel is that the war isnt monolithic.
 
An 8 core 1 CCX CPU from AMD costs 300$ in the consumer market. Thats roughly 1250$ for an 32 core at consumer margins. They can cut it lower. 

Pretty much all 1950X can do 4,2ghz. TR / Ryzen are fairly "lottery-free", you cannot overclock them much over stock tho and they don't really respond to voltage at all unless you go -100°C.

I felt like shit throwing away the TR1 packaging. I really don't want to go through an existencial crysis just because I have to decide whether to keep or throw away....