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  1. I have never used a "Soft Tube Cutter" for soft tubing. A pair of thick scissors or Hobby scissors are best. It's all i use. Since you will never see the cut (as it's inside the compression fitting) no point in getting the cuts straight (as it can assist ill explain below) & also not needed Unless it's for some 1 that has hand issues or is an older person with arthritis or such then yes. Also it will save you some money. With say after a few cuts you will get it. I have never had to resort in getting an additional box due to this. That's only when i do my yearly clean, so new tubing new color.

     

    It's also great to use scissors as you can intentionally make a cut on an angle to assist in making a straight route more straight. As the tubing comes coiled in it's box. That is a trick i do to get wonderful straights.

    This however it harder to achieve the longer you go, tho it is doable of up to 30cm. In my years of using soft tubing. Going any further then 30cm well these routes for me is when the tubing is going into the lower compartment like PSU section of the case. With that said later on you could also ( if needed & want to ) you can get pass thru's they are great.

    So hope that helps as well.

  2. For all the yrs of doing water cooling, what i do & know is this: as long as there is enough rads to cool the system your loop order matters not. I run a pump to 90 deg rotary no issues so im not sure on why it's not recommended. In terms of 2 pumps to 1 line i see no point as well, i did think of doing once tho to find out it's not a real improvement to the temps. But this is me. only thing i could think is your not using the standard G1/4 fitting & using a smaller diameter. Tho i don't see any 1 ever doing this. ive ran a system with out the jet plates as well to see, mehh more or less the same still, slightly lower temps with them on. But im no expert & only have worked on mine so i can only say what i know.

  3. Cooling:

    3x EK-Quantum Surface S420, wow that may be a fit issue. But don't quote me on this as im not familiar with this case at all. P.S. that's a lot of rad, & you'll never need to ad any more after this. I mean you could but really no need to other then bragging rights.

     

    If you can fit 1 up top another on the side & final 1 layered on the bottom & it fits with fittings, then your in the house mate. That build will be nice and cool, tho do have the room set at a good ambient temperature, as then over clocks will be nice to have. Best to check the actual size & detentions of the rads prior to getting them 1st. Just to make sure, as there would be nothing but pure agony to get them & they don't go in the case. Man that would suck.

     

    MOBO/CPU:

    no need what so ever to get the 14gen Cpu's as 13th gen will be just fine. Save some bucks & go for a z790 a 13th gen cpu & say a 4000 mhz ram or 5000mhz ram. With my new build i put in 3200mhz ram, & yeah no issues no need for it for me, as im only youtube, gaming, watching movies from files & that normal jazz. 14th gen is no real gain, it kinda is in some chips but yeah not worth the bread & butter at all. Even a 12th gen cpu will be fine.

     

    PSU:

    Well if you want it as it's a 1000w & not 850w or a number under a 1000, then go for it id say. i got a 1000w in mine since 2016 still goes good never ever reached the 1000w. my system runs around probs a guess 600w max gives it plenty of room to still stay cool. No fan running on it. But this is up to you, id say yes as it will last years like mine still is from Corsair.

     

    It's a bit of a big build you got planed but do watch as many as possible vids on youtube to make sure this is the road you want to go down on. & everything i said take it as (if this was me) not as advise. See the selection of stuff your wanting to get could be done, 1 better, 2 cheaper, & 3 not getting stuff you really don't need. Watch the vids others in here will advise you as well. Oh & also look around in this forum as well to see similar build questions like this 1, you may end up finding some more answers. Good luck with it all, ask away for questions. It's what the forum is all about, to help & guide.

  4. 1stly can you achieve what you want with air cooling ? If the answer is no & still want to get into it then a water cooling kit is how i started & built of from that.

     

    Are you just like, im done with AIO & air cooling ? i knew i was back in the day. Tho srsly, do you actually want to do it & or need this. For me im in Australia & it gets hot as F so i know i need it. You may even be able to get away with a better type of AIO for the pc.

     

    There's a cost factor that's gone up over the yrs like no tomorrow, my old kit was i guess $450 or something today's ones are like way more. As RGB this & that & cost hikes so on. Fittings alone can cost an arm & a leg. Side note: for me i love soft tubing as it's just much more easy to work with. Ill never go hardline ever.

     

    What brands do you like, Stop.... Go watch as much as you can on the good old Youtube to see what you like with brands & such. But remember another side note: each loop must have a tap or you will be in a world of pain as it will be spilling all over the joint.

     

    Cooling both cpu & the gpu how many rads can / will you fit in the case you got what is it ??

    Few things to keep in mind:

     

    For all of this is a global standard as G1/4" = 10/13 thread. Stick to this id say.

    . Pump ??

    . Reservoir ??

    . Radiators ??

    . Tubing/hardline tubing ??

    . Fittings ?? so many different types of fittings. 45 Degree 90 Degree rotary fittings, extenders,

    . Coolant - Color - Pastel - clear colors.

    . Fans ?? these get fans for rads static pressure known as SP. AF is for air flow, as these fans are for no resistance. IE a Rad.

    . Cpu block ??

    . Gpu block .....( these can some what be a mental screamfest to understand what 1 matches the gpu)

    . Have a lot of time for doing the process ( i take 2 days ) Taking time to

    . Get ready for some sore fingers tightening them fittings ( by hand only) or it will crush the O-rings. Unless it's really hard to tighten it down. Hard to get to location, ill use an allen key. slight kick tight with them or crushing the O-ring can come into effect.

     

    Don 't worry to much on the order the loop must follow, pump to gpu then cpu then rads then res. no no no any way you like. What's your current specs: all of it. Sorry for the long post ill leave it there, as this is the just some things. Don't ever feel like it's to much slowly get the stuff if $ is an issue. & make sure this is something you want to get into not for just looks or bragging rights. Hope this helps some what.

  5. Ive been thinking of some outdoor solutions as well, tho going into the ground then bury it incased in a metal box running thru rads. tho not sure how deep id have to dig in order to find those really cold temps. Vs to cold & condensation. ive been thinking of this for yrs now tho havn't seen any 1 do it. vs If it's even worth it. Tho id love to get really cool temps for why not. & to experiment. Im not sold on it at all. Also pumps. EDIT: the crazy sh*t we think about to get our gear cooled down haha.Geothermal-Systems-Examples.jpeg

  6. I don't use Occt any more i use to tho, i now use R-23 for my stability tests. If they pass there on R-23 then i know it's good. But that's after a Full Run. A quick 5min test run gives me in indicator of where it's at. How ever others here may say to try other tests as well. 7600K i used Occt not now, as for me i tend to think it's a bit of an old program for newer cpu's.

  7. 1stly you havn't done anything wrong. Try stock clocks at 1.100v to start with, then slowly work your way up. Undervolting is key for temps. This is how i achieved a better overclock. & only used R-23. if stable after 5 min each test, it should be stable. Full run to be sure. Stock settings like clock speeds & stock voltage are both way to high. Mobo companies do it like this so the CPU can hit the cpu targets the cpu states it can do. This is why we see this issue a lot on the forum. Hence why we all will say undervolting is key. & it works wonders.

     

    & even with my 5.7ghz on mine is again with an undervolt on my 13600k. I can get 5.8ghz on mine tho then ill get to stock 96oC (& thermal trottling) & also just under stock voltages. & that's with a custom loop running 4 rads. With your 360 AIO id imagine a 5.2-5.4 over clock should be achievable at around 80-85oC if not lower, in R-23 & running games. Have in mind that your only going to achieve, what your cooler can do. Some thermal grizzly paste a contact plate maybe. Better cooling possibly. Id say invest in a better option, when ever you can.

     

    & then this is vs the ambient temperature in the room the pc is in. Need help with this, the forum can help you a lot with it. Don't ever feel like a dummy to ask even i had to in the past as well. As we all want every 1 to get the best out of there systems like we do.

     

    EDIT: Leave the E-Cores at 3.2 that's it. Or even set it to 3.0 you not ever going to notice it really. I didn't.

  8. As this pc is mainly for Editing & Rendering (Gaming 2nd) this build changes some what. & my suggestions stop as others can be more of a help. So Ram can be a factor as well as the Mobo now (possibly). Even the CPU choice. Don't worry tho the forum will assist.

  9. Should use ? well for pumps & a res, id suggest you watch a fair few youtube vids to see what you like. Not only it will teach you a thing or 2. But you will instantly know what look you like. Jayztwocents is the 1st person.

     

    Company's: there are a lot.

    Corsair - Thermaltake - EK - Singularity Computers - Bykski - Alphacool to name a few. I Would suggest seeing if you would like a pump/res combo or would you like to do it separate. As this can be done as well. Some can be cheap & perform well enough some can be expensive as well.

     

    Key Note tho: make sure the pump is good. When it comes to a res it's mostly how much water it can hold & looks. Pump reliability is crucial. D5's are the common go to. Hope this helps. What i use is an All EK System, but you may like some 1 else. & this is fine, as this is for you & your own coin. If you want put the name of what you are thinking & the forum can help you if it's good or not. Watch a lot of vids take your time.

  10. Hi & welcome to the Forum.

    NO:1 With the CPU i have it also, & would suggest an AIO at least a 360 size rad (this case can fit it). As temps for this Little Beast of a CPU can get rather high. Even for me on custom water cooling. (are you planning on Overclocking it?)

    Later on when the build is done the Fourm can assist you in lowering temps & get it going with great over clocks.

     

    NO:2 ASUS has been a horrid suggestion these days, so i would suggest a Gigabyte mobo. Also what is your daily use of the pc gaming only or workload editing as well ?.

     

    NO:3 (this is up to you) tho see if you can get a 4x8 gb kit for the ram this way it's complete & will look nice if you go with RGB. Even if you get 2 now & to later it may help.

     

    Other then that As Hinjima said.

  11. This is great. good to find another soft tubing person like my self. They just make life better. You may want to put a fan next to the pump if you can to try to keep it cool. Don't have to but i would as they get hot, the heatsink on them. But what ever man that's a clean build. Bit of air in the loop i saw tho that will make it's way out eventually.

  12. Days of these high temps are rare, tho they do come. it's why i use profiles 1 for summer & 1 for winter, most of summer is mid to 30's some days it can get into the 40's. As a portable is crap. The case im looking at & the idea is mostly what im after. Tho thanks for the advice i am getting an aircon soon. Im just trying to up my case & do better on cooling. With my 7600k i got 4.8 ghs @ around 80oC. This new cpu it gets hot still with 4 rads on a 22oC day. 87oC 5.7ghz.

  13. I seen a case that i like tho it has a massive price tag on it of Australian Dollar $849 Lian Li V3000 Plus - Website PCCG, ill use it to put all four of my rads with room for some more, however if there is another cheaper case that can hold more rads as well im all ears. The case i got now still functions holds everything i have TT x71. With soon to be 45oC or even up to the high 40's coming this summer like 48oC days. I want to get-test out more rads for my build. & yes i know all i can achieve is the ambient temps of the room the pc is in. This is where the possible Mod or some what stupid idea comes to light.

     

    Ive got a spare Corsair Air 540 case just sitting here, i guess i could put in a 240 & a 360.

     

    For years ive had the idea tho don't think it'll work but worth saying it to see if any 1 has any insight or even tested it out. So ive got 4 rads in the system already over the years all good tho i can do better im sure. Do i need to do this no, tho im going to try it out anyway. My current case is a Thermaletake Core x71 OG Version non glass Edition the Original 1. How it's set up now is:

                          EK CoolStream PE 120 Single Radiator - rear fan left of Cpu.

                          EK CoolStream XE 240 Double Radiator - top of case.

                          EK CoolStream SE 360 Slim Triple Radiator - bottom chamber with the psu of case.

                          EK CoolStream SE 480 Slim Quad Radiator - front of case.

     

    So ive got the case maxed out in terms of rads. The case has many grommets tho i think i can use my 2 EK AF: Pass-Through G1/4 Nickel to send the tubing out. Now the idea i have is jees this is going to sound so weird but what ever. (Linus has come up with a more exotic extraordinary idea him self), (whole room water cooled with a bathtub lol & his new pool) So send the tubing lines out (pass thru) to right angle fitting) to drop straight down under the table into a large tub coil the tubing space out the coil tubing seal the tub up. Have it spaced out so the tubing isn't going to touch kinda like a garden hose wound up a few times fill the tub up with water. The tub will be under the table were it is much more cooler (temperature like it gets cold there even on a warm day) then were the pc sits on the table. 74cm/29" Hope you get the idea.

     

    I may have to get a water cooling plate if coiling the tubing doesn't work or if you guys know better. Not sure yet so the cooler water under the table transfers better. Ive even thought of sending tubing to under the house into a metal box dig into the ground put the metal box in there then the tub, send the lines back in & seal the metal box. Tho not sure if that would be cooler in terms of temps. Crazy idea's yeah i know, but hey am willing to do it & take suggestions. & also learn from if others have come up with this idea b4. & what were the results. I know some people hang a rad outside of there window but um yeah not a chance in the world would i ever in this heat do that.

     

    If my idea works to well & temps drop so low then ill have to worry about condensation. That's a real thing to be concerned about as well.

     

    My specs: Copied from my signature. I need to get a Contact Frame soon.

                     Case: | TT Core x71 | Mobo: | Gigabyte Aorus Elite DDR4 | Cpu: 13600K | 1.310V | P-Core 5.7GHZ | E-Core 3.2GHZ | Cpu Block: EK Quantum Velocity2 | Ram: Team T-Force Vulcan Z 4x8GB 3200MHz DDR4 | Gpu: Gigabyte GTX G1 970 Bios Hacked 1.275V | Gpu Block: EK | Cooling: Custom Loop | Rads: 4 | PSU: Corsair RM 1000w.

     

    Is there another case like the 1 mentioned above that comes in at a better price that can hold many rads like it ? & what do you think of the idea. Please be kind lol. I know it's an out there idea ive been sitting on for years now. Linus had a crazy idea, ive got 1 as well. Unless his willing to test thing out. don't think he would tho.

  14. What i do is set up Bios Profiles. 1 for Winter & 1 for Summer. This way i can set it accordingly to the temperature. Also my fan curves are set to the way i like it, & both profiles work along side with them. So i know the pc is fine. Simply reset the pc load up a profile & get back to what you were doing b4.

     

    Bios Profile: Summer: Lower clock speeds & lower voltage.

    Bios Profile: Winter: Higher clock speeds & higher voltage.

    Bios Profile: Testing: Tweaking the 2 profiles.      Profiles saves me time. & i can still game.

     

    Side note: That case you have can hold more rads, 1 at the (front) 1 at the top 1 (right of Mobo) & also a (1x 120 rad for the rear under I/O Shield). Adding another rad for the loop will be beneficial. Im in Australia & temps can rise here to 49oC in a very bad summers day. Yeah it gets really F***n Hot. That's an oven lol. The very reason i run 4 rads. (looking at cases now to see how many more i can get ). Those temps seem normal to me for a 29oC day.

  15. 1stly i would have to ask what specs:

    Case so we can help out more, put a pic of the case up so we can see. Also what cpu cooler do you use now, tho if you re willing to go water cooling a system. You may want to cool both cpu & gpu. 1 thick rad for the cpu would be a bare minimum for my self back in the day not nowadays. As the rad will get warm to touch under load. Especially with high temp cpu's like 12/13gen.

     

    1 rad got hot to touch with my old 7600k under load it's why i got more. 1 thick chunky rad for the gpu & cpu no unfortunately not. You may want to get another case that allows 2-3 rads in it. 3 rads for those 2 is my suggestion. Others may say otherwise. Do you know what company you want to go with for your water cooling ? Corsair EK Thermaltake & i think some other company's as well are out there.

     

    But 1st tell us what case you got now. Also Welcome to the forum.

  16. Even a great cooler for this 13600k is going to struggle a bit, man these chips (13th gen) get proper hot. So id recommend unless you already have 1 is a solid thick chunky AIO 360. If you case can fit it. Then you can also get a contact frame. It may help as well, it should tho. (careful on installation) or things can happen. (if you wish to you don't have to do this.) Best to watch a guide on youtube say from Gamers Nexus or der8auer EN. Any of these 2 are fine in there teachings of installation.

     

    On a good note, this Cpu will be great. Yeah what Mobo are you thinking. Make sure it's a Mobo that can overclock, so you can undervolt the sucker. It helps for better temps & keeps fans running lower. & be able to overclock if you wish to. I think some not all non overclockable mobo's can undervolt so be mindful of this (hence i could be wrong on this best to look up the Mobo you are looking at to see 1st.). For me personally i just keep to the Z series & be done with it all. This is your coin not any 1 else's so these are helpful notes to take from. Not sure on parts ask away. Plenty of users on here to help. Hope it all works out well.

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