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All on PC i think. .Rock,N,Roll Racing. .Destruction Derby 2. .Cool Boarders 2. .Half Life 2. .Need For Speed High Stakes, Underground, Most Wanted, Carbon, Heat. & many more. 1 really old 1 can't remember name right now. .Midnight Club 2 - Only 1 on Pc Dang it. .Mad Max. .Age Of Empires. .F1 2010, F1 2015, There was a really old F1 game that had a track in a Volcano. Can never find the name of it, loved that 1 so much. .FAR Lone Sails, FAR Changing Tides. We need more of these. .Quake Live the old web browser 1. Then they got rid of it them Bast--s .Red Faction 1 & 2. Then OMG Red Faction Armageddon & Red Faction Guerilla. Smashy Smashy .Space Colony .Sim City earlier versions. Like Old ones. .Tomb Raider Games. .Theme Hospital. .2 Point Hospital. .Prison Architect. .Abes Oddworld .Lowglow .Cloud Punk .Kerbal Space Program .Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 & 3. .TRAINZ .GTA III, Vice City, SA, IV & IV's Episodes, V & soon to be VI im sure. .Warcraft 2 Battle.Net Edition - Yes Me Lord. Well there's some. Bring back the old days man it was so much better. Anyway'z Peace.

I have never used a "Soft Tube Cutter" for soft tubing. A pair of thick scissors or Hobby scissors are best. It's all i use. Since you will never see the cut (as it's inside the compression fitting) no point in getting the cuts straight (as it can assist ill explain below) & also not needed Unless it's for some 1 that has hand issues or is an older person with arthritis or such then yes. Also it will save you some money. With say after a few cuts you will get it. I have never had to resort in getting an additional box due to this. That's only when i do my yearly clean, so new tubing new color. It's also great to use scissors as you can intentionally make a cut on an angle to assist in making a straight route more straight. As the tubing comes coiled in it's box. That is a trick i do to get wonderful straights. This however it harder to achieve the longer you go, tho it is doable of up to 30cm. In my years of using soft tubing. Going any further then 30cm well these routes for me is when the tubing is going into the lower compartment like PSU section of the case. With that said later on you could also ( if needed & want to ) you can get pass thru's they are great. So hope that helps as well.

For all the yrs of doing water cooling, what i do & know is this: as long as there is enough rads to cool the system your loop order matters not. I run a pump to 90 deg rotary no issues so im not sure on why it's not recommended. In terms of 2 pumps to 1 line i see no point as well, i did think of doing once tho to find out it's not a real improvement to the temps. But this is me. only thing i could think is your not using the standard G1/4 fitting & using a smaller diameter. Tho i don't see any 1 ever doing this. ive ran a system with out the jet plates as well to see, mehh more or less the same still, slightly lower temps with them on. But im no expert & only have worked on mine so i can only say what i know.

Cooling: 3x EK-Quantum Surface S420, wow that may be a fit issue. But don't quote me on this as im not familiar with this case at all. P.S. that's a lot of rad, & you'll never need to ad any more after this. I mean you could but really no need to other then bragging rights. If you can fit 1 up top another on the side & final 1 layered on the bottom & it fits with fittings, then your in the house mate. That build will be nice and cool, tho do have the room set at a good ambient temperature, as then over clocks will be nice to have. Best to check the actual size & detentions of the rads prior to getting them 1st. Just to make sure, as there would be nothing but pure agony to get them & they don't go in the case. Man that would suck. MOBO/CPU: no need what so ever to get the 14gen Cpu's as 13th gen will be just fine. Save some bucks & go for a z790 a 13th gen cpu & say a 4000 mhz ram or 5000mhz ram. With my new build i put in 3200mhz ram, & yeah no issues no need for it for me, as im only youtube, gaming, watching movies from files & that normal jazz. 14th gen is no real gain, it kinda is in some chips but yeah not worth the bread & butter at all. Even a 12th gen cpu will be fine. PSU: Well if you want it as it's a 1000w & not 850w or a number under a 1000, then go for it id say. i got a 1000w in mine since 2016 still goes good never ever reached the 1000w. my system runs around probs a guess 600w max gives it plenty of room to still stay cool. No fan running on it. But this is up to you, id say yes as it will last years like mine still is from Corsair. It's a bit of a big build you got planed but do watch as many as possible vids on youtube to make sure this is the road you want to go down on. & everything i said take it as (if this was me) not as advise. See the selection of stuff your wanting to get could be done, 1 better, 2 cheaper, & 3 not getting stuff you really don't need. Watch the vids others in here will advise you as well. Oh & also look around in this forum as well to see similar build questions like this 1, you may end up finding some more answers. Good luck with it all, ask away for questions. It's what the forum is all about, to help & guide.

1stly can you achieve what you want with air cooling ? If the answer is no & still want to get into it then a water cooling kit is how i started & built of from that. Are you just like, im done with AIO & air cooling ? i knew i was back in the day. Tho srsly, do you actually want to do it & or need this. For me im in Australia & it gets hot as F so i know i need it. You may even be able to get away with a better type of AIO for the pc. There's a cost factor that's gone up over the yrs like no tomorrow, my old kit was i guess $450 or something today's ones are like way more. As RGB this & that & cost hikes so on. Fittings alone can cost an arm & a leg. Side note: for me i love soft tubing as it's just much more easy to work with. Ill never go hardline ever. What brands do you like, Stop.... Go watch as much as you can on the good old Youtube to see what you like with brands & such. But remember another side note: each loop must have a tap or you will be in a world of pain as it will be spilling all over the joint. Cooling both cpu & the gpu how many rads can / will you fit in the case you got what is it ?? Few things to keep in mind: For all of this is a global standard as G1/4" = 10/13 thread. Stick to this id say. . Pump ?? . Reservoir ?? . Radiators ?? . Tubing/hardline tubing ?? . Fittings ?? so many different types of fittings. 45 Degree 90 Degree rotary fittings, extenders, . Coolant - Color - Pastel - clear colors. . Fans ?? these get fans for rads static pressure known as SP. AF is for air flow, as these fans are for no resistance. IE a Rad. . Cpu block ?? . Gpu block .....( these can some what be a mental screamfest to understand what 1 matches the gpu) . Have a lot of time for doing the process ( i take 2 days ) Taking time to . Get ready for some sore fingers tightening them fittings ( by hand only) or it will crush the O-rings. Unless it's really hard to tighten it down. Hard to get to location, ill use an allen key. slight kick tight with them or crushing the O-ring can come into effect. Don 't worry to much on the order the loop must follow, pump to gpu then cpu then rads then res. no no no any way you like. What's your current specs: all of it. Sorry for the long post ill leave it there, as this is the just some things. Don't ever feel like it's to much slowly get the stuff if $ is an issue. & make sure this is something you want to get into not for just looks or bragging rights. Hope this helps some what.

Ive been thinking of some outdoor solutions as well, tho going into the ground then bury it incased in a metal box running thru rads. tho not sure how deep id have to dig in order to find those really cold temps. Vs to cold & condensation. ive been thinking of this for yrs now tho havn't seen any 1 do it. vs If it's even worth it. Tho id love to get really cool temps for why not. & to experiment. Im not sold on it at all. Also pumps. EDIT: the crazy sh*t we think about to get our gear cooled down haha.

I thought occt was old as f & not getting any updates. Good to learn this ill have to get it again. Ive been thinking wrong with R-23 then. This is good info for me as well thanks freegent. I guess from watching YT to much ive delved into thinking it'll do. Good info.

I don't use Occt any more i use to tho, i now use R-23 for my stability tests. If they pass there on R-23 then i know it's good. But that's after a Full Run. A quick 5min test run gives me in indicator of where it's at. How ever others here may say to try other tests as well. 7600K i used Occt not now, as for me i tend to think it's a bit of an old program for newer cpu's.

oh yeah ill revert it now. forgot about it.

1stly you havn't done anything wrong. Try stock clocks at 1.100v to start with, then slowly work your way up. Undervolting is key for temps. This is how i achieved a better overclock. & only used R-23. if stable after 5 min each test, it should be stable. Full run to be sure. Stock settings like clock speeds & stock voltage are both way to high. Mobo companies do it like this so the CPU can hit the cpu targets the cpu states it can do. This is why we see this issue a lot on the forum. Hence why we all will say undervolting is key. & it works wonders. & even with my 5.7ghz on mine is again with an undervolt on my 13600k. I can get 5.8ghz on mine tho then ill get to stock 96oC (& thermal trottling) & also just under stock voltages. & that's with a custom loop running 4 rads. With your 360 AIO id imagine a 5.2-5.4 over clock should be achievable at around 80-85oC if not lower, in R-23 & running games. Have in mind that your only going to achieve, what your cooler can do. Some thermal grizzly paste a contact plate maybe. Better cooling possibly. Id say invest in a better option, when ever you can. & then this is vs the ambient temperature in the room the pc is in. Need help with this, the forum can help you a lot with it. Don't ever feel like a dummy to ask even i had to in the past as well. As we all want every 1 to get the best out of there systems like we do. EDIT: Leave the E-Cores at 3.2 that's it. Or even set it to 3.0 you not ever going to notice it really. I didn't.

As this pc is mainly for Editing & Rendering (Gaming 2nd) this build changes some what. & my suggestions stop as others can be more of a help. So Ram can be a factor as well as the Mobo now (possibly). Even the CPU choice. Don't worry tho the forum will assist.

Should use ? well for pumps & a res, id suggest you watch a fair few youtube vids to see what you like. Not only it will teach you a thing or 2. But you will instantly know what look you like. Jayztwocents is the 1st person. Company's: there are a lot. Corsair - Thermaltake - EK - Singularity Computers - Bykski - Alphacool to name a few. I Would suggest seeing if you would like a pump/res combo or would you like to do it separate. As this can be done as well. Some can be cheap & perform well enough some can be expensive as well. Key Note tho: make sure the pump is good. When it comes to a res it's mostly how much water it can hold & looks. Pump reliability is crucial. D5's are the common go to. Hope this helps. What i use is an All EK System, but you may like some 1 else. & this is fine, as this is for you & your own coin. If you want put the name of what you are thinking & the forum can help you if it's good or not. Watch a lot of vids take your time.

Hi & welcome to the Forum. NO:1 With the CPU i have it also, & would suggest an AIO at least a 360 size rad (this case can fit it). As temps for this Little Beast of a CPU can get rather high. Even for me on custom water cooling. (are you planning on Overclocking it?) Later on when the build is done the Fourm can assist you in lowering temps & get it going with great over clocks. NO:2 ASUS has been a horrid suggestion these days, so i would suggest a Gigabyte mobo. Also what is your daily use of the pc gaming only or workload editing as well ?. NO:3 (this is up to you) tho see if you can get a 4x8 gb kit for the ram this way it's complete & will look nice if you go with RGB. Even if you get 2 now & to later it may help. Other then that As Hinjima said.

This is great. good to find another soft tubing person like my self. They just make life better. You may want to put a fan next to the pump if you can to try to keep it cool. Don't have to but i would as they get hot, the heatsink on them. But what ever man that's a clean build. Bit of air in the loop i saw tho that will make it's way out eventually.

Hey man that set up looks clean, nice art work as well. Neat. 10/10 here.