ShadowChaser

If this belongs in Servers, NAS and Homelab I apologize I have an all flash media server and an old NAS box that I want to consolidate for idle power draw reasons. Wondering if my setup is the best way to take advantage of all the hardware I have. I am going with TrueNAS Scale due to drivers for the SSDs not existing on FreeBSD. The media server is a windows machine with some enterprise SSDs in a storage space. The NAS is running TrueNAS and has two mirrored pools (2x10 and 2x12TB). I know I want to keep the following: SuperMicro X10SDV-4C-TLN2F from the NAS for the low power Xeon-D and onboard 2x 10GbE 128GB of DDR4 ECC from the NAS since TrueNAS loves memory and I already have this motherboard maxed out The HDD pools, 2x 10TB and 2x 12TB for 22TB of accessible spinning rust in total The SSDs, 3x 3.2TB in RAIDZ1 for 6.4TB of accessible flash storage The chassis and PSU from my NAS build as I can add more HDDs and a 550W PSU is plenty for the hardware I'm running I'm trying to figure out how to set up a simpler boot pool and if I need metadata/slog/L2ARC drives. I have plenty of hardware for this, so here are some of the possibilities I'm envisioning. -Boot Pool: Reuse the mirrored boot pool from the NAS - 2x 128GB. They're old sata drives but they seem to keep kicking. A single 16GB Optane SSD. It doesn't show up during TrueNAS setup which is why I haven't used it yet but I'm sure it just needs a driver. I don't like a single point of failure though so I don't think I'll go with this. I do have two but the board only has a single M.2 slot and I'm using all the PCIe lanes for the other SSDs and HBA. -Add'l Devices: I have plenty of spare NVMe devices that could be useful, but again this falls under the single point of failure thing since there's only 1 M.2 slot available. To accelerate the HDD pool do I add a pair of SSDs for metadata? I have a matching pair of 860 Evos that aren't being used and if this is suitable for the task I'd love to load my picture archive faster. I've tried reading the documentation on the various vdevs I can add to my pools to improve the performance of the spinners but I'm struggling to understand how to best take advantage of it all.

Reflashing the BIOS has fixed the issue (not a new bios, even though I should do that) I should've tried this from the beginning but I hope that's not something to be concerned about.

There does not appear to be any software on the amd side that can disable prochot for mobile chips sadly. I can't find anything as all the results are for desktop cpus.

throttlestop is intel only but I have tried ryzen controller which does not have the ability to change these flags. I don't like the idea of disabling a safety measure to begin with though.

This is a bit of an odd one for me. My Asus Flow X13 is behaving as if it is thermal throttling despite nothing externally appearing wrong. Checking HWinfo64 the flags for thermal throttling are on under both HTC and PROCHOT EXT but I can't find any sensor reading that seems off-nominal. Could this be a software bug somewhere or is something I can't see getting hot? The last time this happened it was because one of the fans was left unplugged after a cleaning (oops) but this time that does not appear to be the case as I can manually force the fans on in software. This happened after it died overnight (thanks windows modern standby) after draining the battery. I plugged it in and at no point has the CPU been allowed to clock beyond 400mhz. In the past when I see it getting locked a quick plug and unplug of the power cable or swapping performance modes fixes it, or a power cycle if those fail. This is the first time it's persisted so I'm left scratching my head on what I can do. I have tried: Different performance profiles in both windows and armoury crate Switching between battery and wall power Rebooting/Powering from cold Manually forcing on fans in case it is something getting warm in the vicinity of the cooler If it is software, should I be looking at wiping my install and starting fresh with windows or is the problem potentially deeper than that? If it is hardware, where do I even begin to try and isolate what's causing the issue? I'm planning on repasting this notebook soon but I imagine that if something is getting toasty it's because it's not contacting the cooling solution.

Breaking down my options and what I personally want in a laptop, it does appear that the FW 13 leads the pack. Funny how that works, right? Daily Use Flow X13 (2021) Flow X13 (iGP) Flow X13 (4070) FW 13 AMD FW 16 (iGP) FW 16 (7700S) CPU 5900HS (+) 7940HS (+) 7940HS (*) 7840U (+) 7840HS (+) 7840HS Memory 16GB DDR4 (-) 16GB DDR5 (*) 32GB DDR5 (+) 32GB DDR5 (+) 64GB DDR5 (+) 64GB DDR5 GPU 3050 Ti (40W) (*) 780M (++) 4070 (60W) (*) 780M (*) 780M (+) 7700S (100W) Display Size 13.4" 16:10 (+) 13.4" 16:10 (+) 13.4" 16:10 (++) 13.5" 3:2 (--) 16" 16:10 (--) 16" 16:10 Display Res. 1200p 167ppi (*) 1200p 167ppi (+) 1600p 225ppi (+) 1504p 201ppi (+) 1600p 189ppi (+) 1600p 189ppi Refresh Rate 120hz (*) 120hz (7ms) (+) 165hz (3ms) (-) 60hz (+) 165hz (9ms) (+) 165hz (9ms) Touch Yes (+) Yes (+) Yes (-) No (-) No (-) No Storage 1TB (-) 512GB (*) 1TB (+) 1TB (++) 1TB (++) 1TB Battery Size 62Whr (+) 75Whr (+) 75Whr (*) 61Whr (+) 85Whr (+) 85Whr USB 4 0x (*) 1x (*) 1x (+) 2x (+) 2x (+) 2x USB A 1x (*) 1x (*) 1x (+) 2x (+) 2x (+) 2x USB C 2x (*) 2x (*) 2x (+) 2x (+) 2x (+) 2x DP/HDMI HDMI (*) HDMI (*) HDMI (+) DP+HDMI (+) DP+HDMI (+) DP+HDMI Weight 1.3kg (+) 1.3kg (+) 1.3kg (+) 1.3kg (*) 2.1kg (-) 2.4kg Sub-score 0 3 9 8 8 8 Servicing Storage 2230 M.2 (*) 2230 M.2 (*) 2230 M.2 --- (*) 2230 M.2 (*) 2230 M.2 Storage --- --- --- (+) 2280 M.2 (+) 2280 M.2 (+) 2280 M.2 WLAN None (+) E Key M.2 (+) E Key M.2 (+) E Key M.2 (+) E Key M.2 (+) E Key M.2 Memory Soldered (-) Soldered (-) Soldered (+) 2x SODIMM (+) 2x SODIMM (+) 2x SODIMM I/O None (*) None (*) None (+) 4 Modules (++) 6 Modules (++) 6 Modules GPU No (*) No (*) No (*) No (+) Yes (+) Yes Dust Fair (*) Fair (*) Fair (*) Fair (-) Poor (-) Poor Sub-score 0 0 0 4 5 5 Other Build Quality Good (+) Good (+) Good (++) Excellent (*) Fair (*) Fair Skin-ability Good (*) Good (*) Good (+) Excellent (+) Excellent (+) Excellent 2-in-1 Yes (+) Yes (+) Yes (*) No (*) No (*) No Fingerprint Yes (-) No (-) No (+) Yes (+) Yes (+) Yes IR Cam No (+) Yes (+) Yes (-) No (-) No (-) No Stylus Yes (*) No (+) Yes --- --- --- Sub-score 0 2 3 3 1 1 SCORE --- 5 12 15 14 14 Price $1,200 $1,100 $2,500 $1,403 $1,877 $2,240 VALUE 0.455 0.480 1.069 0.746 0.625

Batch 5 Pre-order (Barebones with GPU and Expansion Bay) and I'm, like many others, very excited about this laptop. I really hope they address the lack of support in the keyboard deck but if it truly is as easy as shimming with a thermal pad (or something similar) I think I could live with it. I'm still on the fence about it though. Based on the timing of the upcoming batches, this will essentially be a graduation gift for myself as a Bachelor's degree well-earned. I'm expecting to pursue a Master's so I will still need a fairly powerful & portable machine. Thankfully the FW16 looks to be just that. My thoughts are below. Pros: Modularity - 6 user defined ports + ability to add/remove a dGPU is amazing. Solid battery life - I've missed the old days where thin & lights got 12 hours of battery life and this is going in the right direction. Bring your own everything - I'm so happy I can kit this out with 64 or 96 GB of ram and not have to also get a giant SSD with that config or vice versa. Cons: 16" Footprint is huge - I used to daily a 15" thin & light and couldn't live with it in a college setting. 13 and 14 inchers are far more appropriate to me. Panel gaps - I'm sure these will get grimy fast and I hate dealing with little crevices that dust can collect in. Speaker grilles are my worst enemy. Price - the preorder is $2.2k plus another $200 for storage and ram. Over $2.5k after tax. It's funny that the primary contender I'm considering isn't in the same class in just about any metric, except for CPU performance. I've had a Flow X13 for a few years now and my alternative would be to upgrade to the latest iGPU only model because the 780m would be good enough for any gaming I do, but if we're keeping things fair then I should use the one with the 4070 as a comparison since that's $2.5k retail. The X13 checked all the boxes for me personally because it was the only 13" 2-in-1 performance laptop that has good battery life. I'm reasonably certain this is no longer true, however, but the latest version is quite compelling. And it's this apples to oranges comparison that makes choosing one over the other so difficult. Maybe I should just throw in the towel and split the difference by getting a FW 13 AMD edition instead.

There's no real solution for the gpu without installing a vga cooler unfortunately or massively altering the stock heatsink assembly.

To be completely honest you should use one of these: https://www.newegg.com/silver-raijintek-0r100006/p/2T3-0007-00003 Plus some cheapo heatsinks to slap on the memory ICs if you wanted to cool this gpu the way you want to. But for that amount of money you probably could've gotten a better GPU to begin with... such is life.

Noctua 4020s are inaudible - Get about 150W of TGP at 80C Arctic 4038s @5k rpm are drony - Get about 180W of TGP at 80C (This is what I daily drive as F@H rarely needs more power than this) Arctic 4038s @15k rpm are jet engines - Get the full 250W TGP at ~65-70C Originally I got this for some local LLM but 24GB of vram is getting borderline for some of the larger creative writing models and the token generation rate of Pascal is just not it chief. I think I'll be getting something Turing based for inference in the future. In the meantime, this is generating science and keeping my apartment warm

do you have room to attach two 40mm fans on the end? Due to the heatsink design it isn't possible to flow air in the way you've described. The finstack is enclosed at the end that you want to attach fans to. It's harder to describe but if you look through the fins it'll be pretty obvious what I mean. I recently designed this adapter to put dual 40mm fans on my P40. Regular 40mm fans can screw in and deeper fans clip on. When I tried with regular noctua 4020s it is somewhat borderline but with proper server fans it can be cooled but is loud.

not talking about the 5600. That thing sips power and doesn't get hot anyway. The case fans I've had since the very beginning so the $15 or so per fan hardly matters anymore The Tesla is probably 6 or 7 years old and doesn't look like it's been serviced in those years. I have it as supplemental heat since Pascal GPUs don't push as many points in F@H as they used to.

The recent F@H sprints have allowed me to revive my PC of Theseus that has existed in some form since 2019. Currently the only things remaining from the original build are just the fans and case, but it's fun to see this thing still hanging around. The latest iteration is just a mish-mash of spare parts I had laying around to get some extra points and warm up my apartment: CPU: Ryzen 5 5600 Mobo: AsRock B550 PG4 RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x16GB 2666 GPU0: EVGA RTX 3060Ti FTW3 GPU1: Nvidia Tesla P40 Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500GB PSU: Revolution D.F. 650W All this built into a Raijintek Ponos and uses Noctua Redux 140 and 120s as case fans. The Tesla P40 has a dual 40mm adapter I designed and is cooled by Arctic 40mm server fans. Pretty pleased with the cable management in this iteration. For a budget case the Ponos is pretty good on cable routing options and that has always come in handy whenever I build in this chassis. I can't quite get the P40 to dissipate more than 200-ish watts without the fans going screamo mode but I haven't repasted it yet. Hopefully that'll allow me to drop a few degrees and let me fun the 40mm fans at a more reasonable rpm. It is living in a hallway where the ambient temperature is about 15C so that does help matters a little

The cold snap hitting us has me considering bringing the Tesla P40 I have back online. An extra 250W might help with the temperature at night as this apartment has terrible insulation only question is what computer to chuck it in and how to cool it since the server that used to house it no longer exists.

41% on my evga, 50% on an FE. Those numbers roughly point to a minimum tgp of ~100W. Wonder what they tweaked to get GA104M to run at sub 100W and as much as I'd like to also fold on my CPUs the power bill this month is already too high XD