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Ensho

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    Ensho got a reaction from Jumper118 in Post your Cinebench R20+15+R11.5+2003 Scores **Don't Read The OP PLZ**   
    So close, yet so far....

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    Ensho reacted to dizmo in Switching from a i7 to ryzen?   
    Sounds like bunch of hopes, dreams and conspiracy theories.
    It also doesn't matter what the future might bring, but how it performs now.
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    Ensho reacted to SenorKiwi in after using DDU Geforce won't install?   
    eh it didn't work again. Said for all "Not installed" and then for Graphics driver - "failed".
     
    I just realised under programs one of the graphics drivers is already installed... so maybe it installed although said it failed. Either way: http://prntscr.com/eicx27

    Looks like it is probably fine now
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    Ensho got a reaction from SpaceGhostC2C in Overclocking screwed my computer (help) 4.1 dropping to 1.4 ghz randomly   
    Dropping to 1.419mhz is probably just the power saving feature of the chip.  You need to check your load speeds and load temps to see if it is running too warm.  You need to list your voltages as well so someone familiar with AMD can help you.
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    Ensho got a reaction from BingoFishy in Overclocking screwed my computer (help) 4.1 dropping to 1.4 ghz randomly   
    Dropping to 1.419mhz is probably just the power saving feature of the chip.  You need to check your load speeds and load temps to see if it is running too warm.  You need to list your voltages as well so someone familiar with AMD can help you.
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    Ensho reacted to stconquest in I delidded 6700K. Allow me to share my experience. (It didn't work out that well--until it did.)   
    Well, it is better than my 13+ degree variance on my 3570K. 
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    Ensho reacted to stconquest in I delidded 6700K. Allow me to share my experience. (It didn't work out that well--until it did.)   
    If the temperature variation between cores is similar (+/- 2 degrees, or so), you might not need to delid... unless you decide you want to compete for bench scores or something.
     
    You seem to have a good chip. 
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    Ensho reacted to Business Corgi in I delidded 6700K. Allow me to share my experience. (It didn't work out that well--until it did.)   
    I was not getting excellent temps or a particularly great OC out of my i7-6700K so I decided to try my luck delidding it. I used the razor method and had good luck with ultra thin razors used for shaving. The old school ones. They're very thin and bendy though so I suggest being extremely careful. I started with the corners and worked my way around the IHS making sure not to cut too deep. I managed to remove the IHS and clean ALL the glue residue without damaging anything. They sell products specifically for delidding these processors and I would recommend those to the faint of heart. I used the floating method instead of re-gluing the IHS to the PCB and I'm very glad I did for reasons I'll get into later.
     
    I HAD BAD LUCK AT FIRST.
     
    I used Arctic MX-4 thermal paste between the die and the IHS and my temps did not improve significantly. At 1.335 on the VCORE I would hit 80C with a 4.6Ghz clock pretty soon after starting AIDA64. I tried several reapplications and eventually switched thermal pastes to Noctua NT-H1 and experienced similar results. I was very disappointed.
     
    THEN I TRIED SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
     
    So yeah, I was pretty bummed that I voided my CPU warranty for nothing. So I did some digging to see if there was anything I could do that might significantly improve temps. I looked into things like mounting the cooler directly onto the die but decided it was too dangerous/too much work. Eventually I came across peopled talking about having good results with Coollabratory Liquid Ultra TIM being on their hot running Kaby Lake CPUs. I have got to say... WOW.
    I've been running AIDA64 for the last hour minutes or so and instead of shooting up to 80°C+ right away I'm still sitting at 56°C on the hottest core. My CPU fans would obviously hit 100% before and now they aren't coming anywhere close to that. So lower fan speeds and temp differences of close to 25°C. This is absolutely insane. For the record, ambient temps in the room are always a steady 70°F or ~21°C.
     
    The liquid metal TIM made a huge difference but it's not without its faults. It's a pain in the ass to apply and I got some on my my plastic/vinyl place mat and it must have had some sort of weird chemical reaction because it looks like it left a burn on the mat. Be really careful not to get this stuff on anything. BTW, it IS conductive so be extremely careful not to get it on any contacts of your MOBO or CPU. I only used the stuff between the IHS and the die. I did not use any between the heatsink and the IHS because you need to scuff up both surfaces for it to stick properly to those surfaces. I used the Noctua NT-H1 TIM for use between the Noctua heatsink and the IHS.
     
    My recommendation if you're going to try it: I used tape around the PCB and left the die exposed. I was able to brush on the thermal compound without having to worry about any of it touching the PCB. I then took this same tape and used it on the underside of the IHS to apply a thin layer there. Dead center, exactly the same size and shape as the die. I used regular scotch tape that was pretty hard to work with being thin and sticky and all. It might be better to use the tape to get the perfect size and shape of the die and then apply the tape to a piece of construction paper and cut a die sized hole out of the paper. That way you don't have to deal with anything sticky.
     
    TL:DR. I had a completely opposite experience w/ my delid experience as Linus did in this video and this video. Although unlike Linus' liquid metal vid, I applied the TIM to the die and not the top of the IHS.
     

     
    This build was heavily inspired by this LTT review as you can see :P

    https://pcpartpicker.com/b/MgYrxr
     
    Conclusion: Worth the risk. As I said before, I was extremely disappointed with the delidding results prior to using the liquid metal TIM. At that point it was absolutely not worth voiding the warranty. However, I really couldn't have asked for a better final result. I've heard that Thermal Grizzly makes a product that's even better than what I used but I still can't fathom better results than what I got. I'll keep my fingers crossed that I won't run into issues down the line but for now I'm very happy. I was getting pretty unacceptable temps at very reasonable voltages before and now, well, you can see for yourself. This gives me a lot more headroom to overclock in my little ITX case, and/or gives me peace of mind that I'm not going to slowly kill my CPU with heat.
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    Ensho reacted to done12many2 in I delidded 6700K. Allow me to share my experience. (It didn't work out that well--until it did.)   
    Don't be scared of voltage.  
     

     
     
    Seriously though, it's more than just voltage.  It's about how much current you're running through the CPU.  If you aren't doing a lot of heavy AVX loads or similar power draws, higher voltage is not an issue.  So much misinformation about voltage in this forum.  Voltage is nothing more than potential.   
     
    No, I don't run mine at this voltage daily, but I'm at 1.4v + all day long. 
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    Ensho got a reaction from JuiceHead in 5820k to 1800x?   
    Even still, a net 2-3 minute redering gain (guesstimate) over a 10 hour workday (one 15 minute video a day) is still not worth worrying about.
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    Ensho got a reaction from Orangeator in Why is Linus always late for the wan show?   
    He got a vasectomy...so I guess he's just 'busier' than normal now.
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    Ensho got a reaction from shadowbyte in Why is Linus always late for the wan show?   
    He got a vasectomy...so I guess he's just 'busier' than normal now.
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    Ensho got a reaction from Techicolors in Why is Linus always late for the wan show?   
    He got a vasectomy...so I guess he's just 'busier' than normal now.
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    Ensho got a reaction from NewAndy in Ryzen 7 1700 or Intel i7700k?   
    High refresh rate monitor?  Why be so f'ng critical of him without even knowing the situation.
     
    For gaming, 7700K all the way if you are trying to push as many pixels as possible.  The 1700 just can't keep up with the 7700Ks clock speed advantage, plus games are more optimized for HT right now than SMT.  It will take a while for games to have codes that take advantage of SMT..but even then the 1700 will lose out in games in both clock speed and IPC compared to the 7700K.
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    Ensho got a reaction from PCGuy_5960 in Ryzen 7 1700 or Intel i7700k?   
    High refresh rate monitor?  Why be so f'ng critical of him without even knowing the situation.
     
    For gaming, 7700K all the way if you are trying to push as many pixels as possible.  The 1700 just can't keep up with the 7700Ks clock speed advantage, plus games are more optimized for HT right now than SMT.  It will take a while for games to have codes that take advantage of SMT..but even then the 1700 will lose out in games in both clock speed and IPC compared to the 7700K.
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    Ensho got a reaction from done12many2 in Post your Cinebench R20+15+R11.5+2003 Scores **Don't Read The OP PLZ**   
    Is that the rig Elon Musk is using to plot his trip to Mars?
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    Ensho got a reaction from done12many2 in Post your Cinebench R20+15+R11.5+2003 Scores **Don't Read The OP PLZ**   
    Hope you are using incognito mode so your wife doesn't find out!
     

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    Ensho got a reaction from beavo451 in 5820k to 1800x?   
    Even still, a net 2-3 minute redering gain (guesstimate) over a 10 hour workday (one 15 minute video a day) is still not worth worrying about.
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    Ensho got a reaction from Jumper118 in Post your Cinebench R20+15+R11.5+2003 Scores **Don't Read The OP PLZ**   
    Set Cinebench to Realtime at 4.5ghz with 1.16v.  Chip handled Asus RealBench stress test fine at this voltage.
     
    4.5ghz score didn't increase much, but it increased nonetheless.
     
    4.5ghz @ 1.16v
    1016cb
     
     


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    Ensho got a reaction from Jumper118 in Post your Cinebench R20+15+R11.5+2003 Scores **Don't Read The OP PLZ**   
    i7 7700k @ 4.8ghz core and 4.5ghz uncore - 1072 cb.  'Above Normal' and 'High Priority' produced the same result.  Got 1038 cb in normal priority.  The other values are saved results from other clocks (checking scaling).
     

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    Ensho got a reaction from Jumper118 in Post your Cinebench R20+15+R11.5+2003 Scores **Don't Read The OP PLZ**   
    Been playing around with different speeds and voltages trying to find the upper and lower ranges of stability.  Interesting to me I am Asus Real Bench stable at stock clocks (with turbo, sst, power savings, etc) with only 1.175v.  As fun as it is to run at 5ghz...not seeing your cpu temps break 50c under load is even better.
     
    i7 7700K @ 5ghz 1.356v
     


     
    @ 4.5ghz 1.175v
     


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    Ensho got a reaction from Jumper118 in Post your Cinebench R20+15+R11.5+2003 Scores **Don't Read The OP PLZ**   
    Passed Cinebench R 15 with 5.1ghz with 1.404v
     
    i7 7700k @ 5.1ghz - 1.404v
    1144cb
     
     


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    Ensho got a reaction from Shiv78 in how many kills does it take to get to at least 1.0 K/D R   
    Math is not my strongest suit...but off hand that is a 33% deficit...so it seems to me he would need 3 kills to 1 death for an extended period of time to bring his k/d to 1:1.
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    Ensho got a reaction from ProjectBox153 in 1080ti Price Poll for Ultimate Bragging Rights!   
    Nvidia pulled a fast one on you guys lol....
     

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    Ensho got a reaction from TidaLWaveZ in 1080ti Price Poll for Ultimate Bragging Rights!   
    Nvidia pulled a fast one on you guys lol....
     

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