Chris_LogitechG

I use G230 ear pads on my G930 because I shave my head bald and the cloth feels nicer than the leatherette.
 
 

It is very similar, and that is how I use it.
 
 
 
Heh - thanks for the help.

Sorry for going dark for a bit - I flew back to the US from Ireland yesterday and spent a while offline.    
With regard to the link, I'm not sure what you would want me to comment on except that there is no CPI doubling in the Proteus Core. Every CPI step is native on that sensor.
 
The sensor did not have the ability to have more granular steps at the time. With Hyperion Fury, 80 CPI steps have been made available. Just like with the G400 or G400s, non-native steps for G602 in automatic game detection mode are calculated based on data from the next-higher step. So 600 is calculated down from 750, 800 is calculated down from 1000, etc. Hyperion Fury only has native values with 80 CPI steps. The power consumption of the G400s sensor is significantly higher than the G602 sensor. It would have a battery life that is lower than G700s. Beyond report rate, endurance mode also changes other internal tracking parameters of the sensor. The net result is less good performance than we can call "gaming". This is different from the G700/G700s because those sensors have far fewer variables that can be adjusted for power savings. They are very different products with very different components.  G400s is being replaced by Hyperion Fury.  
 
Depends on your hand size, really. The lip on the top right side next to the RMB is about 5mm wide, so you can conceivably go 2.5 fingers up if you don't want to go 3 up with your middle finger on the wheel button. G400s has about 10mm of space there, so it will feel different. It's also rubber rather than plastic with soft touch paint that the G400s has. Hyperion Fury does remove the severe lip on the right side that totally prohibits some people from using it with two fingers on the side, though.
 
 
Much like with G400s and G500s, there are features in Proteus Core that some people dislike, while other people like them greatly. If you want a reasonably weighty mouse with hyperfast scrolling and weight/surface tuning, and that is worth an additional $20 to you, then Proteus Core may be the mouse for you. If you prefer a lighter mouse with fewer features, Hyperion Fury could be a good choice. 
With the specific criteria you listed, I don't know that Proteus Core would be worth the additional money. I can't really make a strong recommendation either way with limited information, though.
 
 
Glad you like the changes. As far as the weight goes - it is ~5g lighter than G400s, so not a huge amount of difference.

Thanks for the feedback. We'll take that into consideration for future product development.

It is very similar, and that is how I use it.
 
 
 
Heh - thanks for the help.

Yes, we have heard this feedback.

You are not using LGS incorrectly, but LGS does not do what you want it to. Acceleration (aka Enhanced Pointer Precision) is an OS-level mouse setting that we expose in LGS in order to make it easier for gamers to disable acceleration. In onboard mode, there is no access to this setting as it is an OS setting, not a mouse setting. It is not possible to change this setting by switching onboard profiles - even with LGS still installed.

Hi,   Product manager for Hyperion Fury here to answer some questions and such.    
It is on its way to our warehouses right now. First arrivals will be late August/early September but it's tough to pinpoint when it might be in any specific country. It could be as late as October for some.
 
 
It uses an optical sensor combined with an accelerometer and a gyro. The accelerometer and gyro keep track of where the mouse is moving but do not do anything more unless the system detects the optical sensor is losing tracking data due to excessive speed. At that point the Fusion Engine kicks in and delivers tracking data to the system from the accelerometer/gyro combo until the optical sensor regains tracking capability. All this happens within <1ms of the optical sensor failing, so there's no delay at all during handover. 
 
 
 
It does not have a tilt wheel and the G logo is in cyan only.
 
I'll take your request for different thumb buttons into consideration for future products.
 
   
Thanks for loving the G602.  
 
Man that guy is awkward.

Sorry... I just want to keep making stuff better.

Sorry... I just want to keep making stuff better.

Hi,   Product manager for Hyperion Fury here to answer some questions and such.    
It is on its way to our warehouses right now. First arrivals will be late August/early September but it's tough to pinpoint when it might be in any specific country. It could be as late as October for some.
 
 
It uses an optical sensor combined with an accelerometer and a gyro. The accelerometer and gyro keep track of where the mouse is moving but do not do anything more unless the system detects the optical sensor is losing tracking data due to excessive speed. At that point the Fusion Engine kicks in and delivers tracking data to the system from the accelerometer/gyro combo until the optical sensor regains tracking capability. All this happens within <1ms of the optical sensor failing, so there's no delay at all during handover. 
 
 
 
It does not have a tilt wheel and the G logo is in cyan only.
 
I'll take your request for different thumb buttons into consideration for future products.
 
   
Thanks for loving the G602.  
 
Man that guy is awkward.

Yes, we have heard this feedback.

Yes, we have heard this feedback.

I don't like MX browns. Reds ftw with blues just behind

You are not using LGS incorrectly, but LGS does not do what you want it to. Acceleration (aka Enhanced Pointer Precision) is an OS-level mouse setting that we expose in LGS in order to make it easier for gamers to disable acceleration. In onboard mode, there is no access to this setting as it is an OS setting, not a mouse setting. It is not possible to change this setting by switching onboard profiles - even with LGS still installed.

Yes, we have heard this feedback.

Yes, we have heard this feedback.

I use 2000 CPI (aka DPI) in Windows and top-down games (LoL, mostly, but also SC2, DIII, and the like) and 1000 in FPS games.    Except World of Tanks where I use 750 CPI.
 
It's been stated a number of times already but I'll reiterate - CPI is only a measure of how fast the cursor goes relative to your mouse's physical movement.  Higher CPI does not equate to higher accuracy.  Windows cursor speed settings only affect games that don't use raw input or DirectInput for tracking, but as mentioned numerous times in this thread keeping the slider at its default (6/11) for those games makes sure it's as linear as possible without doing additional adjustments like MarkC's stuff.

I use G230 ear pads on my G930 because I shave my head bald and the cloth feels nicer than the leatherette.
 
 

I use G230 ear pads on my G930 because I shave my head bald and the cloth feels nicer than the leatherette.
 
 

G500/500s is very similar in length and arch height to G400/400s, so they will feel very similar.  The main difference would be in the ring finger area on the right side, where the lip that you either rest your finger on or put your finger under to lift is more pronounced on the G400/400s than on the G500/500s.  
 
G700/700s are a couple mm taller at the highest part of the arch, but are also a couple mm shorter and narrower.  The changes appear subtle numerically but from a physical feel standpoint are reasonably significant.  For most people G700s feels smaller than G500s.  For others it can feel larger.
 
I recommend trying to find one in a local shop to put your hand on, if you can.  Comfort in mice is a very subjective and personal topic.  It's really not possible to make hard-and-fast recommendations over the internet.
 
I'm glad you like our Support team.  I haven't worked in that group since 1997 but I still talk to them on pretty much a daily basis.  For me, their input is really invaluable as a component of product development.

I am the product manager for Logitech's gaming mice and racing wheels, yes.

Francois is a super smart guy, and this is a very condensed version of his explanation of how sensors work.  He's familiar with pretty much every component that's been on the market for the last fifteen years or so, and has been a key contributor to the various customizations that have been made for Logitech G mice sensors over the years.