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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Fardin in New PC build + Monitor mouse keyboard need help.   
    thank you for your helpe veryone  way better than what i came up with lol. Talked to him he stated he wanted a 1700 if he just had a little more time and didn't have his laptop burning up every other hour lol. Was worried about the parts not fitting lol. 
     
    Thank you Fardin for your help hopefully the new generation woun't go after you.
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    The RTX Gaming Laptop Guide
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Other Guides:  Computer Parts | Reseller Guide   So this time around I'm dividing by graphics card.  That's because the prices this gen are all over the place and in general don't fit any nice cut off points like under 1500...  Unfortunately for RTX you'll be paying more than that.  Note that until I reach the portables section these laptops are more focused on performance and non max q components.   Categories: RTX 2060 Machines RTX 2070 Machines RTX 2080 Machine No Limit Portables   IMPORTANT: Links are to view the product.  It doesn't mean that's where you should buy from.   BE CAREFUL TO AVOID 1x16GB ram stick.  You'll take a significant performance hit this gen with single channel RAM.   BASE PRICE: Generally what I'd consider a starting config price range.  Should be about 16GB of ram and either an ssd + hdd or larger sized ssd.  I try and make it a "base" useful config.  A config with 8GB of ram for gaming is fairly useless.     Owner's lounges (where actual owners of the models discuss their machines) will be linked, though not everything has an owners lounge.     ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   RTX 2060 Machines:   This is where stuff starts getting good.  Now we have some serious gaming horsepower coming into the mix, with the RTX 2060 present in all recommendations.  Anything less is not a smart use of money for a gaming machine in this price range.  Quality also increases here.   Sager NP8961/Clevo P960ED (17" version here)  - One of the new 16.1" models this machine has a similar footprint to 15" laptops with larger bezels.  Overall a thinner unit but also competitively priced.  Cooling not yet known.   Base Price: $1470 CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 (1 SATA/PCIE, 1PCIE) || 1 2.5" SATA Display: 16.1" 144Hz WVA FHD               |               Battery: 51WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI 2.0 || 1 mDP 1.2 || 2 USB Type C (1 DP capable) || 2 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack Dimensions: 14.96” (w) x 9.92” (d) x 0.78” (h)  Other: 180W adapter || 4.6 pounds barebones || RGB keyboard (zone lit) || fingerprint sensor in the touchpad || 6 in 1 card reader   (Owner's lounge here) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MSI GL63 - MSI's entry level gaming laptops for RTX these laptops lack some of the bells and whistles of the more premium series above it like the GP and GE series.  Worse displays, no RGB, worse speakers, smaller battery etc...     Base Price: $1600 CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA Display: 15.6" 120Hz FHD              |               Battery: 51WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C || 3 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || mic jack || headset jack Dimensions: 15.07" (w) x 10.23" (d) x 1.16" (h) Other: 180W adapter || 4.8 pounds   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MSI GE63 Raider - MSI's mid level gaming laptops for RTX these laptops are share the same chassis as the GL and GP series but come with all the features the chassis can offer:     Base Price: $1749 CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA Display: 15.6" 120Hz FHD              |               Battery: 65WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C || 3 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || mic jack || headset jack Dimensions: 15.07" (w) x 10.23" (d) x 1.16" (h) Other: 180W adapter || 5.49 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofers || spdif with Sabre dac || sd card reader   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lenovo Y740 -Lenovos new 2060 offering provides solid performance at a solid price:     Base Price: $1500 (256GB ssd) CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD              |               Battery: 57WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || NOVO hole (for system recovery) Dimensions: 14.2” x 10.5” x 0.88” Other: 230W adapter || 5.1 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofers   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Aorus 15 W9 - Aorus's new chassis at a more afforable price than their X5 X7 type chassis designs.     Base Price: $1800 (includes a lot of storage) CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1M.2 SATA/PCIE || 1 2.5" SATA Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD IPS             |               Battery: 62WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 (DP capable) || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || mini sd card reader Dimensions: 14.21(W) x 9.68(D) x 0.96(H) inch Other: 180W adapter || 5.29 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone)   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Tongfang GK5CP0Z - This TongFang chassis is most well known in the United States as the Walmart OP15+ and Eluktronics Mech 15 G2 units though it is also sold under other names.  It's generally an excellent value and known well performing laptop that can properly hold both cpu and gpu clocks.   Base Price: $1500+ (includes a lot of storage) CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA that's filled with the better battery Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD IPS             |               Battery: 62WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 2 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 2 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack || 4 in 1 card reader Dimensions: 14.13" x 9.29" x 0.86" Other: 150W adapter || 4.4+ pounds || RGB keyboard - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Asus GL504 - Asus's current entry level into RTX laptops.  Features an aggressive gaming design with a light bar in front and slim bezels.  Has a signature slanted black brushed finish.   Base Price: $1800 CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level"             |               Battery: 66WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || sd card reader Dimensions: 14.21(W) x 10.31(D) x 1.00 ~ 1.03(H) Other: 180W adapter || 5.29 pounds || RGB keyboard (Zone)   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MSI GS65 - MSI's premium thin option.  Black and gold color scheme with a better and larger trackpad that last gen.     Base Price: $2100 (Cheap vs the 2080  ) CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD WVA            |               Battery: 82WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || mic jack || spdif sabre dac Dimensions: 0.71 (H) x 14.09 (W) x 9.76 (D) in Other: 180W adapter || 4.07 pounds || RGB keyboard || glass touchpad   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AW M15 2060 - AWs first thin laptop in...  Pretty much ever.  Sports an all new design with a well under an inch chassis.   Base Price: $1900 (more expensive than it looks for good specs) CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie Display: 15.6" FHD 60Hz IPS || FHD 144Hz IPS || UHD 60Hz IPS            |               Battery: 60WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || 1 AGA || Ethernet || headset jack Dimensions: 14.3(W) x 10.8(D) x ~0.7-0.83(H) inch Other: 180W adapter || 5.78 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Clevo P750TM1-G - Clevo's big boy 15".  This is a 15" machine with a desktop cpu and modular components.  Typically a more powerful more enthusiast machine.  HIDevolution is linked because they offer an unlocked bios and cooling mods to tame this beast's thermals.  Can be equipped with a 2060-2080.   Base Price: $1900+ (will be more properly specced) CPU: i5 9600k - i9 9900k(!)               |                GPU: RTX 2060MP Ram Slots: 4(!)                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 sata/pcie || 2 2.5" sata (4 total!) Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level" GSync            |               Battery: 90WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack || 6 in 1 card reader Dimensions: 15.2"(W) x 10.32"(D) x 1.5"(H) Other: 330W adapter || 7.5 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone) ||  Sabre dac ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   RTX  2070 Machines: 2070 laptops are actually not all that common without max q design in 15" chassis's.  But as long as the cooling permits these will be fast machines offering performance close to a max q 2080.     Aorus 15 X9 - Aorus's new chassis at a more afforable price than their X5 X7 type chassis designs.  Almost identical to its 2060 brother besides price and the 2070.   Base Price: $2100 (includes a lot of storage) CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1M.2 SATA/PCIE || 1 2.5" SATA Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD IPS             |               Battery: 62WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 (DP capable) || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || mini sd card reader Dimensions: 14.21(W) x 9.68(D) x 0.96(H) inch Other: 230W adapter || 5.29 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Clevo PB51EF-G - A new chassis design from Clevo.  The spiritual successor to the Clevo P650 series models.   Base Price: $1820 (for a 256GB ssd + 1TB HDD with 16GB ram) CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 (1 SATA/PCIE, 1PCIE) || 1 2.5" SATA Display: 15.6" 144Hz WVA FHD               |               Battery: 62WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI 2.0 || 1 mDP 1.2 || 2 USB Type C (1 DP capable, 1 TB III) || 2 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack Dimensions: 14.13” (w) x 10.15” (d) x 1.18” (h) Other: 230W adapter || 5.8 pounds barebones || RGB keyboard || fingerprint sensor in the touchpad || 6 in 1 card reader   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Tongfang GK7CP7S - This 17" TongFang chassis is like it's 15" brother mostly known for the Walmart OP17+ and Eluktronics Mech 17 G1R models in the U.S.  Like it's 15" brother it can also handle its hardware at a hard to beat price   Base Price: $1800 CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA (taken by larger battery) Display: 17.3" 144Hz IPS FHD               |               Battery: 62WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI 2.0 || 2 mDP 1.4 || 1 USB Type C  || 2 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack || 4 in 1 card reader Dimensions: 15.5" x 10.25 x 1" Other: 180W adapter || 5.25+ pounds barebones || RGB keyboard - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Asus GL504 - Asus's current entry level into RTX laptops.  Features an aggressive gaming design with a light bar in front and slim bezels.  Has a signature slanted black brushed finish.  This one obviously sports a 2070MP.   Base Price: $2000 (500gb ssd 16GB ram) CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level"             |               Battery: 66WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || sd card reader Dimensions: 14.21(W) x 10.31(D) x 1.00 ~ 1.03(H) Other: 230W adapter || 5.29 pounds || RGB keyboard (Zone) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MSI GE63 Raider - MSI's mid level gaming laptops for RTX these laptops are share the same chassis as the GL and GP series but come with all the features the chassis can offer:     Base Price: $2200 CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA Display: 15.6" 120Hz FHD              |               Battery: 65WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C || 3 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || mic jack || headset jack Dimensions: 15.07" (w) x 10.23" (d) x 1.16" (h) Other: 280W adapter || 5.49 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofers || spdif with Sabre dac || sd card reader - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MSI GT63 Titan - MSI's 15" serious gaming laptop.  Larger chassis design for prioritizing performance over any other 15" model they make this is the big boy.   Base Price: $2500 CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP Ram Slots: 4(!)                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" sata Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level"             |               Battery: 90WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 3 USB 3.1 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || quad audio ports including spdif || 3 in 1 card reader Dimensions: 15.35"(w) x 10.47"(d) x 1.56"(h) Other: 330W adapter || 6.84 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofer - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Clevo P750TM1-G - Clevo's big boy 15".  This is a 15" machine with a desktop cpu and modular components.  Typically a more powerful more enthusiast machine.  HIDevolution is linked because they offer an unlocked bios and cooling mods to tame this beast's thermals.  Can be equipped with a 2060-2080.   Base Price: $2150+ (will be more properly specced) CPU: i5 9600k - i9 9900k(!)               |                GPU: RTX 2070MP Ram Slots: 4(!)                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 sata/pcie || 2 2.5" sata (4 total!) Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level" GSync            |               Battery: 90WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack || 6 in 1 card reader Dimensions: 15.2"(W) x 10.32"(D) x 1.5"(H) Other: 330W adapter || 7.5 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone) ||  Sabre dac ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   RTX 2080 and up:   Clevo P750TM1-G - Clevo's big boy 15".  This is a 15" machine with a desktop cpu and modular components.  Typically a more powerful more enthusiast machine.  HIDevolution is linked because they offer an unlocked bios and cooling mods to tame this beast's thermals.  Can be equipped with a 2060-2080.   Base Price: $2550+ (will be more properly specced) CPU: i5 9600k - i9 9900k(!)               |                GPU: RTX 2080MP Ram Slots: 4(!)                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 sata/pcie || 2 2.5" sata (4 total!) Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level" GSync            |               Battery: 90WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack || 6 in 1 card reader Dimensions: 15.2"(W) x 10.32"(D) x 1.5"(H) Other: 330W adapter || 7.5 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone) ||  Sabre dac - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Asus G703 - Asus's current entry level into RTX laptops.  Features an aggressive gaming design with a light bar in front and slim bezels.  Has a signature slanted black brushed finish.  This one obviously sports a 2070MP.   Base Price: $3000 CPU: i7 8750H (i9 available)               |                GPU: RTX 2080MP Ram Slots: 4                |               Storage Slots: 3 M.2 pcie (1 is sata) || 1 2.5" sata Display: 17.3" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level"             |               Battery: 96WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || mic jack || sd card reader Dimensions: 16.7"(W) x 12.6"(D) x 2.0"(H) Other: 2X 280W adapter || 10.4 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofers   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alienware Area-51M - Alienwares new shot at the top.  A Clevo matching desktop cpu and 200W power limit 2080 means on paper this is the most powerful laptop of this generation.  Note this laptop has been recalled for thermal issues causing failures.   Base Price: $3050+ (bad stock storage) CPU: i7 9700k - i9 9900k(!)               |                GPU: RTX 2080MP Ram Slots: 4                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 pcie (1 is sata too) || 1 2.5" sata Display: 17.3" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level" Gsync Tobii Eye Tracking             |               Battery: 90WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 AGA || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || headset jack || headphone jack Dimensions: 16.10(W) x 15.85(D) x 1.09(H) inch (thicker than this) Other: 180W + 330W adapter || 9.7 pounds barebone || RGB keyboard - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MSI GT75 Titan - MSI's 15" serious gaming laptop.  Larger chassis design for prioritizing performance over any other 15" model they make this is the big boy.   Base Price: $3400 CPU: i7 8750H (i9 available)                |                GPU: RTX 2080MP Ram Slots: 4(!)                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 2 M.2 sata/pcie || 1 2.5" sata Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level"             |               Battery: 75WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C TB III || 5(!) USB 3.1 || Ethernet || quad audio ports including spdif || 3 in 1 card reader Dimensions: 16.85"(W) x 12.36"(D) x 1.22-2.28"(H) Other: 2x 230W adapter || 10.05 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Max-Q RTX Thin Laptops:   No budget but you need it to be thin and portable?  Look here:   Note that these machines have Max-Q gpus which means crippled performance.  If you want better value most of these laptops will have a 2060 non max q option which should be a better bang for your buck.  This is especially true of 2070 max q units which barely beat a 2060.   MSI GS65 - MSI's premium thin option.  Black and gold color scheme with a better and larger trackpad that last gen.     Base Price: $2800 CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2080 Max-Q Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD WVA            |               Battery: 82WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || mic jack || spdif sabre dac Dimensions: 0.71 (H) x 14.09 (W) x 9.76 (D) in Other: 230W adapter || 4.07 pounds || RGB keyboard || glass touchpad   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alienware M15 - Alienware's first real forray into a thin unit.   Base Price: $2600 (bad default storage)  CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2080 Max-Q Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 sata/pcie || 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" sata Display: 15.6" 60Hz IPS || 144Hz FHD IPS || UHD IPS          |               Battery: 60WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 AGA || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack Dimensions: 14.3(W) x 10.8(D) x ~0.7-0.83(H) Other: 230W adapter || 4.78 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Asus Zephyrus S - Zephyrus is Asus's thin line.  To try and get better thermals the keyboard is in an unusual spot.  The trackpads also double as numpads.   Base Price: $3000  CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2080 Max-Q Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 sata/pcie Display: 15.6" 60Hz IPS || 144Hz FHD IPS || UHD IPS          |               Battery: 60WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 2 USB C || 1 USB 3.1 || 2 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headset jack Dimensions: 14.17(W) x 10.55(D) x 0.60 ~ 0.63(H) Other: 230W adapter || 4.63 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Razer Blade 15 - Razer's mainstay gaming laptop...  Thin and sexy, not known for quality control however.     Base Price: $2400 (2070) $3000 (2080) CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2080 Max-Q Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 sata/pcie || 1 2.5" sata Display: 144Hz FHD IPS-Level       |               Battery: 80WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || headset jack Dimensions: 0.70" x 9.25" x 13.98" Other: 230W adapter || 4.63 pounds || RGB keyboard - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Clevo P960EN - Clevo's 16.1" thin and light with a Max Q 2080   Base Price: $2220 CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2080 Max-Q Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 (1 SATA/PCIE, 1PCIE) || 1 2.5" SATA Display: 16.1" 144Hz WVA FHD               |               Battery: 51WHR       Ports: 1 HDMI 2.0 || 1 mDP 1.2 || 2 USB Type C (1 DP capable) || 2 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack Dimensions: 14.96” (w) x 9.92” (d) x 0.78” (h)  Other: 180W(!) adapter || 4.6 pounds barebones || RGB keyboard (zone lit) || fingerprint sensor in the touchpad || 6 in 1 card reader   (Owner's lounge here)   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Well there you have it.  That's my current guide to gaming laptops.  It will be updated as more stuff comes out most likely.   For Clevo laptops I'd recommend a Prema partner like HIDEvolution in the U.S.  If they cost too much find a cheaper option like LPC-Digital (Larry is awesome there), GentechPC, XoticPC, or Eurocom.   HID, GenTechPC, and Xotic are also good for other brands as they sell a ton.  HID is the only reseller I'm aware of with Razer though.   There are of course other gaming laptops that could be right for you, but in general these are the best of the best machines out there.   Good luck shopping! --------------------------------

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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Dackzy in MacBook Pro 2016 - Which is the best choice?   
    Talking about piracy in general, broad details, is acceptable however the posting or discussing pirated/hacked/cracked or otherwise nefariously obtained content is not. This includes Windows content, games, hackintosh, etc. Also discussions regarding ways to avoid or block legitimately installed monitoring/tracking software or the like is also not allowed. hm.... sorry i failed to read it. but i will stay away from this topic. I do apologies. so get a A legal based mac on a windows most likely a linix OS?
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from needlessly_weekday in MacBook Pro Late 2016 - Keyboard Issue   
    Don't give apple a call. First find someone with 2 days left on there HP warranty. Then say you have this problem on the HP, argue all day till they hang up on you. become pissed then call apple and be happy.
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Jean-Nicholas in Gaming Laptop Suggestions   
    Macbook is actually a VERY good laptop. The problem comes when going from Apple to another brand. No its not the OS, Its the customer service. There is a level of customer service you got used to while at apple and you wish to have it when you switch brands. Here is the shocker. No other brands does customer service like Apple.
     
    I would strongly suggest to stay out of HP, In 2010 I was on the phone with hp customer service for the entire morning before they just hung up. They didn't want to honor my warranty because it had 2 days left.
     
    Razer I would suggest the same thing.
     
    MSI I hear mixed reviews, my friends say stay away from it, others say its good
     
    Asus will have the same horrible customer service as HP or Razer
     
    IF you can do extra 3 pound I would suggest getting a Alienware. (yes again a Alienware)
     
    Processor 
    Intel® Core™ i7-6820HK (Quad-Core, 8MB Cache, Dynamically Overclocked up to 4.1GHz 
    Operating System
    Windows 10 Home 64bit English
    Display
    15.6 inch FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS Anti-Glare 300-nits Display
    GPU
    NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5
    RAM
    32GB DDR4 at 2400MHz (2x16GB)
    Hard Drive
    1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (has 2 Seta ports so if you want to add PCIe SSD later you could)
    Wireless
    Killer 1435 802.11ac 2x2 WiFi and Bluetooth 4.1
    Warranty
    1 Year Hardware Service with Onsite/In-Home Service After Remote Diagnosis
    Accidental Damage
    1 Year Accidental Damage Service (to help you learn with confidence)
    _______________________________________________________________________
    $CAD             = 2,738.99
    +HST of 13% = 3,095.0587
    With tax you are over $100 you could decrease ram to 16gb to get it within $3000 Canadian OR ask for a discount
    + $8 for thermal paste
    +1$ for Ontario laptop delivery charge
     
    + http://www.dell.com/en-ca/learn/advantage you get 5% back so 2,738.998*0.05 = $136.9495
     
    I would use it to buy another power adapter and leave it at your boyfriends house. (power adapter has weight and takes up space)
     
    Future Proof: later get the External GPU IF you need it. + the PCIe ssd
     
    Advice: make your BF do all the fixing lol /whip OR better yet do it yourself you learn a lot from it.
     
    Ask to have Kaby lake instead of skylake.
    http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/alienware-kaby-lake
     
    it weights 8lb but the laptop is built like a tank, Customer Service Dell got ranked #2, its the closest you will get to Apple. AND if by chance some water gets in within the first year (Canadian winter and stupid sping and fall rain) you will have the warranty to cover it.
     
    with 1080p panel you can play anything with the GTX 1070 at the highest setting.
     
    IF its CAD$ 3000 without tax you might want to upgrade the storage to 256GB PCIe SSD (Boot) + 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage)
     
    you will be above CAD$38 thus lower ram to 16gb?
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Pendragon in Razer   
    Razer is not like a Apple Product. A Apple product though overpriced has something that razer does not, the OSX. IF razer released RazerOS no one will buy it because most likely they cheapened out and asked bought the cheapest OS they could find. Example the North Korean OS.
     
    Razer tries to be Apple of the gaming industry but they failed to realize  that something of something, isn't really the anything of anything.
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Eason85 in Razer   
    Razer is not like a Apple Product. A Apple product though overpriced has something that razer does not, the OSX. IF razer released RazerOS no one will buy it because most likely they cheapened out and asked bought the cheapest OS they could find. Example the North Korean OS.
     
    Razer tries to be Apple of the gaming industry but they failed to realize  that something of something, isn't really the anything of anything.
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Noltz in Gaming Laptop Suggestions   
    not 2700 USD, its 2700 Canadian. 
     
    Thats 2,039.81 USD. I put it in Canadian Dollar because she needed it delivered to Canada. Thus I had to use dell Canada.
     
    Original post stated $USD 2300 or $3000 Canadian. What i am unsure of is if its after tax or before tax.
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Noltz in Gaming Laptop Suggestions   
    you still didnt give me the MSI that has the same spec for 1/2 the price. BOOM fanboy down.
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Noltz in Gaming Laptop Suggestions   
    1) its a i7-6700HQ not a i7-7820
    2) its a GTX1060 not a GTX 1070
    3) its 12gb of ram not 32gb of ram
    4) your price range was $USD 1,100 not 1,200 with lower specs. you stated same specs 1/2 price.
     
    Try again. same spec for 1/2 the price. (this is sooo fun, watching him overstate it.) + shipping and handing fee to canada. (not the US)

    good find though, Alienware is $250 more with the same specs. not double. So back you go search me that deal that is as good but its not half the price of a Alienware. 
    (increased that to have RAM: 16GB (8GB x2) DDR4 2133MHz vs Alienwares 16GB DDR4 at 2400MHz (2x8GB) you can see where the money went, one is plastic other is mostly steel.but lets scrap that. you did find a good laptop that is $250 less than the alienware good job. BUT it isn't what you promised us so please keep looking.
     
    May Fandom guide you.
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Noltz in Gaming Laptop Suggestions   
    I will stop because it is not helping the thread. To your credit you did find something that is good. IS there a HK variant with a 1070? if its a $250 difference between Alienware and MSI. Then she could use that $250 for something else.
     
    I hate looking up MSI laptops. Its confusing as hell and you can't find what you want. 
     
    Not saying they are bad, its just hard to find what you are looking for.
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Pendragon in LF Laptop for Gaming and Statistics   
    For $USD you can get some really well suited computers. Alienware comes with the 512gb PCIe + hk
     
    Think you can get more than 4 years with this machine. with the Amplifier + normal settings..... ooooh know what they should do
     
    you see Alienware has a thunderbolt port at the back... So... SLI External GPU? lol
     
    Mind you, like Pendragon said... it requires you to put some work into it. 
     
    BUT I say get it and learn. Its a nice place to start learning. There are reviews and guides how to do it.
     
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-17r4-15r3-disassembly-repaste-guide-results.797373/
     
    stick with  Grizzly Kyronaut for your first time.
     
     
    and
     
     
    For help and you should be fine.... right?
     
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from procellus in LF Laptop for Gaming and Statistics   
    For $USD you can get some really well suited computers. Alienware comes with the 512gb PCIe + hk
     
    Think you can get more than 4 years with this machine. with the Amplifier + normal settings..... ooooh know what they should do
     
    you see Alienware has a thunderbolt port at the back... So... SLI External GPU? lol
     
    Mind you, like Pendragon said... it requires you to put some work into it. 
     
    BUT I say get it and learn. Its a nice place to start learning. There are reviews and guides how to do it.
     
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-17r4-15r3-disassembly-repaste-guide-results.797373/
     
    stick with  Grizzly Kyronaut for your first time.
     
     
    and
     
     
    For help and you should be fine.... right?
     
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from procellus in LF Laptop for Gaming and Statistics   
    About the Alienware 15 and 17 I think they fixed some of the issues but not all. 
     
    The UHD had a problem but they are addressing it. They stopped using toothpaste but I the thing they provide is not the best so you 10/10 times you will have to open it up and repaste (if you want to overclock) + since you travel Dell has international warranty. I would go 4 years hardware and 4 years accidental (because you have to open the it up) + only other reason to get a Alienware is there external GPU, you leave it at home with a lets say desktop Nvidia GTX 1080ti and 1070 for the road and you got a good mix of performance.
     
    I would not go with Razer even though Linus loves it. 
     
    Apple Macbook Pro over Razer for work. Why? Operating system.
    Razer vs Alienware or dell or Acer: go with non razer better cooling (for Alienware after repast) for travel I would suggest alienware because of that accidental warranty, gives you the confidence to open up the laptop.
     
    Trust me I was in the same spot as you. It was CPU and RAM VS GPU and customer service
     
    I opted for GPU and customer service because of my experience with HP. Most games are GPU dependent not CPU. As for ram there is so much you can watch  lol. 
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Matt_98 in Laptop that won't need an upgrade for at least 4 years   
    Wait for the new Macbook.
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    NA_NotAvailable got a reaction from Crazyman3 in Laptop that won't need an upgrade for at least 4 years   
    Wait for the new Macbook.
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