KarathKasun

You will get the ability to push more voltage without overheating your MB and killing it in 6-12 months.

For the "nobody should play games on a ryzen computer without having memory at 2933mhz", what a load of bull.  The overall uplift from RAM speed with a GTX 1080 is not that great, save for a few games. And if you use any resolution above 1080p, the difference all but vanishes.  The same differences exist on the Kaby platform as well, you just have to push RAM up to ~4000 to see the same gains (which you cant do with a locked chip and B series board without some tinkering).
 
Pretty much everything hits 2933 now from personal experience.  The MSI BIOS was hitting 2933 with garbage 2133 RAM before the 1.0.0.6 microcode, without setting anything more than the base five DDR4 timings.  ASRock OTOH, tends to be a nightmare to set up for memory and Asus can be even more noob unfriendly depending on the board you get, not to mention that the lower end Asus boards have tons of features that are inaccessible compared to the latest MSI BIOS builds.
 
And sorry, I don't put a lot of faith in referencing someone else.  I worked a bit with *chew somewhere else on ironing out memory timings for Ryzen and Hynix before and after 1.0.0.6 dropped. The only advantage B-Die holds in hitting 3200 anymore is the fact that it can hold much tighter timings, in the CL12 range.  If you slack up on timings literally any DDR4 will do 3200, though you may have to do a little work to find out what timings the board gives you for auto/2666 or auto/2800 and then manually put those into the BIOS.  And even some B-Die sticks require that because of poorly programmed SPD.

They are bad enough to limit OC potential.  There are some B350 boards that now have "65w only" warnings.
 
B350 Strix and B350 Krait are the only boards with at least mid-range VRMs.  Most all of the rest are not going to cut it with a R7 series CPU above ~3.6ghz.  The average 4+2 VRM B350 boards can hit 100c+ on the VRM at 3.8ghz on a R7 1700.  Strix/Krait end up in the 60c range in the same scenario.
 
If you are using a R5 series CPU, the Asus B350 Prime would likely be fine for a sub $100 board.  Mainly because the R5 chips pull 25%-50% less power vs R7 chips.

Over 1.425v is pushing into the extreme upper bounds of the 14nm process.  If you are going over that you should be under a serious water loop or you should be sub ambient.  Even with that, expect most chips to degrade with a relative quickness.
 
That board could only hope to push over 1.4v with a R5 1500X or below anyway.  If you tried that with a R5 1600 you would start seeing pretty high temps on the VRM.  With an R7 1700 you would likely damage the board in short order.

Over 1.425v is pushing into the extreme upper bounds of the 14nm process.  If you are going over that you should be under a serious water loop or you should be sub ambient.  Even with that, expect most chips to degrade with a relative quickness.
 
That board could only hope to push over 1.4v with a R5 1500X or below anyway.  If you tried that with a R5 1600 you would start seeing pretty high temps on the VRM.  With an R7 1700 you would likely damage the board in short order.

Over 1.425v is pushing into the extreme upper bounds of the 14nm process.  If you are going over that you should be under a serious water loop or you should be sub ambient.  Even with that, expect most chips to degrade with a relative quickness.
 
That board could only hope to push over 1.4v with a R5 1500X or below anyway.  If you tried that with a R5 1600 you would start seeing pretty high temps on the VRM.  With an R7 1700 you would likely damage the board in short order.

Expect to get a new board if you ever put serious load on that setup.  It may survive awhile, but the VRM will be at or above max spec for temp under load.

Firstly, on what chip?
 
And they can recommend anything because overclocking voids warranty anyway.

AIDA64 stress test is mostly worthless.  Encoding video can get you higher temps.

you're welcome to confirm.

Oops, forgot to quote in order to push the notification.  Check out my post above yours.
 
X399 will likely not have a mATX or ITX board due to the sheer size of the CPU socket.  It hyooge.  X370 is likely as good as it will get for AMD in that space for now.

NV/AMD dont set the price, retailers do.  If they cant keep parts in stock the prices go up.  Its economics 101, supply and demand.  They can only produce so many chips at a time.

The retailers are inflating it. It's supply and demand. Basic economics.

It's not Nvidia increasing the price. It's the retailers. It's basic supply and demand. 

NV/AMD dont set the price, retailers do.  If they cant keep parts in stock the prices go up.  Its economics 101, supply and demand.  They can only produce so many chips at a time.

LOL, OK.  We are quite far from the topic at this point to be sure.
 
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Never trust a software sensor.  They can be in different places on different boards, and that will skew temperatures.  They can also be biased or calibrated differently.  You need to use probes or an IR thermometer.

If that is true, you should have a 100% controlled experiment to find what it is.  Just going through this thread, this is placebo at best and driver/Direct X/Windows update related.
 
Been building computers for over 20 years and gaming for 25, I've never seen this in the way people are presenting it.
 
If you are on intel IGP, its possible that the drivers are recompiling shader code in a way that is causing a quality change.  Same with other GPUs really, they compile shaders at run time.  If something gets updated and the cache isnt cleared, you could very well get odd shader behavior.

Did you ever think it could be a contrast or sharpness setting on your monitor?  Have you tried using an OS without automatic updates enabled?  Thats my issue with this bull, nobody even keeps track of variables.

This conspiracy theory comes from people that believe that computers are magic and have zero understanding of how they work.
 
The problem is in Drivers, Games, or your GPUs capabilities.
 
Also, older games on new hardware run through a type of emulation or code wrapping (this is how DX supports old versions).  They are likely not going to work 100% accurately, and may have some graphical differences due to hardware and software differences over the ages.

Reading through the thread some more, 90% trolls or uneducated tech plebs that think they should have I-Max quality graphics.
 
MSAA does not work properly with anything recent, it only works on some items because deferred shading.
 
People claiming their GTA icons also got more pixelated, HAHAHA, WUT?
 
If someone wants to make this not a tinfoil hat topic, post screen caps of all the games you play that are impacted with caps of the settings screens as well.  Though there are ways to cheat that and troll even harder.

I can tell you right now that Minecraft does NOT work with AA at all.  DSR crashes when you go fullscreen. FSAA was forced on in the driver for these, it does nothing.  It has done nothing for a long time now.
 
Folder with caps from R5 1400 with GTX 670.
Folder with caps from IvyBridge using iGPU in linux.
 
I remember why I stopped playing MC now, its a game built solely from bugs and programming glitches.  The game resolution scales with Windows UI scaling... WUT?  That's one mystery solved.  Also, do NOT force AF unless you disable it in game, it breaks the graphics pretty bad if you have it enabled in both places.  16X AF creates odd shimmering in some places due to the design of the textures, 4X AF is plenty for MC and causes the least issues.
 
Attached image is about what MC looks like using DSR.  Getting DSR working is very jankey but looks pretty good.
Steps to get MC working with DSR...
 
disable DPI scaling for the Minecraft shortcut
make sure full screen is disabled in game
set DSR factors in NV Control Panel
set desktop resolution to your desired DSR factor (4k on 1080p gives 4x AA)
start game
maximize the game window
NEVER hit F11, game will crash.

In B350 boards MSI Gaming Pro Carbon is likely your best bet.  It has one of the most robust VRM's for a B350 board.  If you want to spend a bit more money, Taichi is likely the most robust board on the market as far as voltage control.