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And if yields are a problem, breaking up a 32 core to components should mean a higher success rate per wafer? As long as performance loss is not significant I would guess that this would not be a factor.

Your assumption is that they were acting in good faith. You know what they say when you assume...

What do you do to need such equipment? Why so many VMs?

Hmm, MSM declare Pizzagate fake news in seconds despite some really questionable activity happening right in front of them. MSM declare the documents which come via Rick Wilson as fact in seconds despite some very obvious errors and 4Chan fanfic within. Why should I believe Facebook is going to tell me the truth?

Where did this belief of Zen 8c/16t being $500 or less appear. It smells of the silliness of Polaris 1600MHz+ on air. I thought people in that court would learn by now. My guess, Yes a pure guess not backed by anything other than my own thoughts... Zen will be within 10% of the Intel variant in terms of pricing. Performance? I will wait for benchmarks before making a solid comment.

Exactly. Athlon was fantastic, but in the end it's day in the sun ended. Also I agree, there is more to the story than superior product. Look at Apple...

I would bet it is 1 8-pin connector. Even if it is a 2x 8 pin I don't see the complaints as long as the performance can match the draw requirements (even if it is not a huge for myself). Of course everyone will test the PCIE draw at release. You would scary not too even the past, but also AMD would be crazy to do that again, so I highly doubt it happen. More details on release date would be nice.

Brand recognition, advertising your achievements, proving superior product is what you need to do to get noticed. What did AMD do? Basically nothing. I have been following this game for decades, my first PC was a 100Mhz 486 (I don't count my trusty C64 though otherwise it would be the first). I got unlucky with the cheap fake chipsets where if you put too much RAM in the Mobo would give up the ghost. You know something I nearly never saw, AMD makes it presence known. I saw Intel and IBM flapping their gums all they could. AMD was near silent. And when it was exposed, what did AMD do? It had a perfect opportunity to muscle its way into the market heavily on the back of this. It was a perfect opportunity for the company to really push some deals whilst the winds were favourable. What did they do? Nothing. Even before this event AMD was not really on the radar for market share. This reads like the your usual Standard Oil tale. But they forgot that Standard Oil was loosing its monopoly at the breakup point (from 90% in 1880 to around 60% in 1910). AMD has never hit the radar due to a combination of things. I know of the antitrust events well, but you have to give AMD massive criticism that outside of this AMD has done NOTHING to advance its position. It is always a victim tale for them. Look at their recent CES presentation, if they stopped trying to bag their competitor and instead FOCUSSED on their products they might get more traction than fanboys and a subreddit dedicated to them. Oh god, always back to the Athlon era. Yes, I had an Athlon as well. They were great. No challenge there. If they could bring out an Athlon level event again I would buy them without a single concern. But when you cast your line back a decade to provide an example you are only shooting yourself in the foot. What has AMD done since? Bulldozer... For a industry of innovation, if you are riding on your success a decade ago with nothing to show after that, you are struggling or dead in water. Also you are only looking at one aspect of the free market. AMD previously was doing NOTHING to advertise his superior product. Now it seems to have worked that part out but stumbles with every release. "overclocker's dream", the PCIE issue with Pascal, maintaining Bulldozer despite it being an anchor. Madness. AMD made historically great products then sat on them with next to no attempts to push itself out there. Basically lets say I could beat the 100m WR with the brick on my shoe, but I never enter races, never run in front of others and when I do run in front of otherI lie that I can do the time with three bricks, then try and fail. It doesn't matter whether I can really do it if no ones knows because I don't sell it. Hell Nvidia sprang from them and is now slaughtering them. If that is a sign of massive mismanagement I don't know what else to say. AMD plays the victim and hopes that is enough. Come on, stop blaming others and start AMD to get a bit wiser in the game.

OR maybe AMD get their house in order and compete without charity. When the solution relies on charity, the outcome is already known. If AMD can not compete (whatever the field) then they deserve to die off. Yes thank you for your contributions to the IT industry, here is your participation award and there is the door. Whether your comment was serious or not, the very fact that we are in this position is entirely the fault of AMD. Everyone goes on about Nvidia's 680GTX being a hot plate (it was) but to blast AMD for the wreck of a CPU is suddenly out of bounds? EVGA will live with people asking "Do they provide enough pads" and then others ckecking EVERY SINGLE CARD in every single review for years. Don't cry for AMD for their own failure. The FineWine bullcrap and other nonsense only makes the matter worse. If AMD can produce a chip I would use, I would buy it. I don't do charity. Make something good or I will not buy it, otherwise sell it at the Reject Shop.

For the AMD circlejerk to continue, apparently yes. The whole thread is crazy. For people asking for further optimizations from Kepler etc. What proof do you have that there is more headroom for this optimization that is worth investing time into?

LOL this thread has devolved into the "I am top tier Alpha" "No I am top tier Alpha" "I can bench press your mom" etc... Meanwhile I am

All it needs is a maid outfit and cat ears and tail and world domination would be complete.

Thanks, I am glad I am not the only one. Does question what is up with the TIM? The difference is not normally that large. I am not a "delidder" but this is a major delta.

Allow me to customize my waifu and I will buy one. 2D > 3DPD

Now that would be "reckless" behaviour. Totally out of character to these types of individuals... Oh god I can't even finish that sentence without getting angry.