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DDR5 is not close enough to production and no existing chipsets support it, so they're probably going to be disappointed. Like it's probably not going to be a thing until 2020, and again, new chipset required.

75 bucks my friend
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vDqbt6/nzxt-case-camantww1
 

Hey guys, So my office needs a build for our new render position. I'm putting together something budget and will be buying the following parts -
 
CPU - Ryzen 2600 
Mobo - Asrock HDV B450M
Ram - Corsair 16Gb 3000Mhz
Storage 1 - Kingston 120Gb SSD
Storage 2 - WD Blue 1TB HDD
PSU - Corsair CX550M 80+ Bronze
 
GPU Option 1 - Zotac Gaming RTX 2060 IceStorm - 6GB
GPU Option 2 - Saphire Radeon Pulse RX Vega 56 - 8GB
 
 
I've reached a conundrum with the GPU section because it was my understanding that the Vega 56 was one of the best budget options for rendering tasks.
However, the slightly more expensive RTX2060 seems to be a bit more, (shall I say) solid option with less chance for hitches or other notoriety like crashing.
 
If anyone has any experience with the two for blender/3dsmax or other mainstream rendering apps, please let me know below. All opinions are welcome.
Thanks!

If its Blender then Vega56 is a lot better choice. You usualy want more VRAM for 3D renders as those tasks can be very VRAM demanding and Vega has 8GB vs RTX 2060 which has only 6GB.
As for what other SW they use, it depends. If it can use OpenCL then Vega56 is usualy a better choice. If it can only use CUDA then you have to go with RTX 2060 (heck, GTX 1070 or 1070ti may actualy make more sense as it has more VRAM).

3ds max really likes vram from my understanding.
 
More is better, so if you are working on an animation that needs more than 6gb of vram, the vega 56 will yield better performance strictly by that fact alone.

So, back in 2018 blender finally picked up support for cuda acceleration officially, and there are a handful of engines in 3ds that can make use of cuda acceleration, however, when it comes to straight number crunches the vega does just take the cake. As far as stability is concerned I personally have had far more issues with nvidias drivers, but thats a personal thing, just dont let the whole mindset that amd has shit drivers get to you, its just a worn out meme at this point. Their stability is near identical.
 
Personally, I would probably still go for the 2060, but mostly just because of iray.
The added vram of the 56 is really nice though...

Thanks man, I'm really happy with the cahnge.
imo the MAX is beefy af compared to the other two. The prism is taller than the stealth but doesnt have enough "hunk" to soak up the heat you know? 

This should be a PSA cus I couldnt get enough info on it before.
 
I have an R5 2600 that I used with the stock stealth cooler. My first horizontal facing cpu cooler and I loved the aesthetics. 
Sadly, I couldnt overclock worth a damn, and just let it turbo to 3.700 while hitting 70-75. (I live in the mideast)
 
Recently I built a PC for a client and he got himself a 2700X but wanted an aftermarket cooler I grabbed the unused Wraith MAX rgb and by golly...
 
It turbo'd to 3.850 from the get go and kept under 50c idle. I was blown away and now I just used this headroom to OC to 4.1 at 1.35V and its kicking STILL UNDER 60.
People out there should know that a wraith MAX rgb is a stylish af cooler that also does performs brilliantly.
 
 
 
Thanks for reading my little flex

Friend of mine upgraded from the stealth to the prism, basically the same as the max. Didn't see the drastic gains you did but it's clearly better with that nice big cooler and XFR doing work.

This should be a PSA cus I couldnt get enough info on it before.
 
I have an R5 2600 that I used with the stock stealth cooler. My first horizontal facing cpu cooler and I loved the aesthetics. 
Sadly, I couldnt overclock worth a damn, and just let it turbo to 3.700 while hitting 70-75. (I live in the mideast)
 
Recently I built a PC for a client and he got himself a 2700X but wanted an aftermarket cooler I grabbed the unused Wraith MAX rgb and by golly...
 
It turbo'd to 3.850 from the get go and kept under 50c idle. I was blown away and now I just used this headroom to OC to 4.1 at 1.35V and its kicking STILL UNDER 60.
People out there should know that a wraith MAX rgb is a stylish af cooler that also does performs brilliantly.
 
 
 
Thanks for reading my little flex

This should be a PSA cus I couldnt get enough info on it before.
 
I have an R5 2600 that I used with the stock stealth cooler. My first horizontal facing cpu cooler and I loved the aesthetics. 
Sadly, I couldnt overclock worth a damn, and just let it turbo to 3.700 while hitting 70-75. (I live in the mideast)
 
Recently I built a PC for a client and he got himself a 2700X but wanted an aftermarket cooler I grabbed the unused Wraith MAX rgb and by golly...
 
It turbo'd to 3.850 from the get go and kept under 50c idle. I was blown away and now I just used this headroom to OC to 4.1 at 1.35V and its kicking STILL UNDER 60.
People out there should know that a wraith MAX rgb is a stylish af cooler that also does performs brilliantly.
 
 
 
Thanks for reading my little flex

pull the cmos battery and start over? 

Bad mem OC. Remove the memory overclock and they should disappear.

Your VRAM overclock is simply not stable like others mentioned.

gaming plus, because aorus m suck.

@LukeSavenije summon the PSU thread army! 

B450M Bazooka then, best AM4 mATX board so far. AM4 mATX boards from other brands are all much worse (even the TUF, even the Strix, just all of them)
 
mITX boards are out of your budget range

Hey guys. Im having some trouble with the PC.
Just changed the cables, cooler and made the mistake of swapping my EVGA G3 cables for some GQ ones. Long story short i noticed the PSU made a faint click and didnt even turn on so I swapped back the psu cables. One by one. Then I noticed that it did turn on, but i saw smoke coming out of one of the tiny modules. I swapped more cables and it happened one more time. Each time I would immediate kill the power to be safe. Now all the cables are back the way it should be and its running, lights and fans on everything on. But the display signal isnt out putting. The debug lights never even turned on and im noticing some of the lights on the back stopped working. Any help? Im happy to answer questions.

Unrelated to question at hand, but it shows up as two because it's a dual-gpu card.

Yeah, the motherboard you just sold would be able to run the new Ryzen gen CPUs.

I'd grab an 8700K and a decent motherboard, if you can for 450-500 CAD.
 
If you can't find that then the 2600 was a really good setup in the first place.
 

id recommend the same parts you already had for the money you have available now, the ryzen 2600 is a good cpu and wont really bottle neck your gpu id get that combo of parts again 

Is it fast enough for you? If yes, great! If not, overclock it! Do what works best for you, but don't criticize the OP for deciding to overclock ram. It is well documented that higher memory bandwidth benefits Ryzen systems, if you don't want to take advantage of that, that is your prerogative.
 
People love AMD for value. I sold an i7 4790k for $350 and purchased a Ryzen 1700 for $300 when it was new. Overclocked it and the performance is FAR better than my Intel. I consider overclocking ability to be an added value, AMD does it for free, Intel makes you pay extra on an already overpriced CPU.

it's free performance, as simple as that

Use something like memtest86 to test your memory and see if it crashes or spits our errors. If not, you can settle for your current OC or try to push it further (either tightening timings or frequency increase). Be careful about voltage though, I wouldn't push your ram too far as it can actually get quite hot. Look up whats safe on your set of ram and motherboard to be sure.
Why not? You clearly don't know much about ram overclocking, especially on Ryzen. You can attain a substantial benefit by overclocking, whether it be in games or professional work. Battlefield 5 is a personal example for me with my Ryzen 1700. Bringing my memory from stock to 3000mhz gave me quite the FPS boost. On Intel RAM speeds don't much matter, not the case with AMD.