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I really appreciate you for looking into it. The i3 won't be an issue for this board for now. Guess we will have to wait to see how well this holds up with a 14th gen i5.

Thanks so much for the detailed info. I will try to gain a deeper understanding of it. Seems like I really need to learn a lot about this stuff xD Thanks man that would be great https://www.gtstore.pk/category/motherboards.html?page=5&sort= This is the link to the site from where I am shopping. As you can see the motherboard I mentioned, Gigabyte B760 DS3H AX is listed on this page and costs PKR 40,500/-. So this is the price segment we are looking for. Its between 35k-45k. If you find something better for a bit more thats fine, but I will certainly not like to touch 50k price for a motherboard. Also you will need to open the individual product page to check if that motherboard is in stock. The site has a lot of motherboards still listed with old pricings and are mostly out of stock.

Thanks for the suggestion but unfortunately here, I don't have a lot of options to choose from. This is the best vrm (8+2+1 phase) I can find here. Anything in this price segment has a worse vrm i.e, mostly 6+2+1. The next board I can find that has a 14 phase vrm (12+1+1) is the Asus tuf b760m gaming d4 and it costs $50 more with no wifi. Now please correct me if I am wrong for judging a motherboard's power delivery capabilities just by looking at the vrm phase count and if there's anything more to it than that. If wrong I will mention a few other options available with fewer phase vrms for the same price if they are somehow more capable in handling the i5 k series chips. I am situated in Pakistan btw.

So I am planning on byuing the Gigabyte B760 DS3H AX DDR4 motherboard (the full size b760 atx and not the b760m which has a 6+2+1 vrm compared to the b760's 8+2+1) for my next build and will currently be pairing it with an i3. I do plan on upgrading the processor in the future to an i5 13600k or 14600k as there are no 13600/14600 (non K) processors available in my region and also because Adobe application suite benefits from higher clockspeeds on the K series processors. Here we only have to mostly choose from a 13600K/KF or a 13400F I don't plan on doing any overclocking with the cpus but only want them to constantly boost to their rated 5ghz+ clocks in games or even in all core wokloads such as rendering without having to worry about extremely hot VRMs or CPU throttling just because the morherboard's power delivery isn't capable enough. The K series i5s have a max TDP of 180W when not overclocked. So will the B760 DS3H AX DDR4 be able to handle i5 13600k without any throttling or super hot vrm situation? I am not considering a z690/z790 only because firstly I don't plan to overclock (just xmp) and secondly even the cheapest cheapest ones I can find here in my region have a huge price difference of $80 which is a lot here and they don't even have Wifi/BT etc.

Wow this is complex. I think I will have to forget about this idea lol. He even did some soldering around the BIOS chip as the clip damaged it, and had to correct some bent pins as well. And all this happened in the process even for someone who has experience and knows how to do it. Also I am still confused about all the files. I cannot afford to damage anything during the process because this is my primary pc. Don't have a laptop to do this either. I do have a secondary pc but it will make it to difficult, probably will have to take my board out. I have no first hand experience for all this nor do I have all the equipment to do the soldering and everything. Also need to put in some time for this I think I will leave the idea of Turbo Unlock and enjoy the current performance of my system which honestly is more than enough for me. But I just wanted to get the maximum out of it. Still if its possible with the current BIOS without having to flash anything or through any software, I can give it a try. But if not, its a big NO for me now. Anyways I appreciate you help bro. Thanks

Hi there! Hope you all are doing great! So I recently bought a Xeon E5-2697 V3 for my Dell Precision T5810 because it was cheap af i.e $17-18 for a whopping 3.1GHz all core Turbo on 14 Hyper-Threaded cores. One more reason to go for the V3 lineup was it can be turbo unlocked, meaning you can do the 3.6GHz Turbo on all 14 cores with a few modifications in BIOS. I need some help with this as I am totally new. I initially tried to change the multipliers in ThrottleStop after doing the sleep/wake cycle which allows you to change multipliers within Windows but it didn't worked for me probably because 2697 V3 isn't overclockable I guess. I found a link that has all the files you need to remove the 06F2 microcode from Dell's BIOS that will enable the turbo unlock for all cores. Here is a link to it: https://miyconst.github.io/hardware/workstation/dell/2020/05/01/dell-t5810.html The only problem is there is no guide on how to do it. I think it might need some type of a flash driver CH341A for doing this but I am not sure about anything so I need a proper guide on how to do this step by step. Basically I want Turbo Unlocked on my Dell T5810. As long as someone can guide me, whether it be from software or BIOS. I am down for it. I know its only a .5GHz Turbo unlock, but since it is on 14 cores, it can increase the performance by 15-20% and will also help with framerates in games. Right now the multicore Bench score in CPU-Z is 5900 at 3.1GHz all core turbo which puts it above i9 9900k / i7 10700 and R7 3700x. A successful Turbo Unlock will enable all cores to turbo at 3.6GHz which can get the multicore CPU-Z bench score to somewhere in the ranges of 6700 which puts it right on par or maybe above Intel Core i9 11900k which is absolutely insane at this price point. Looking forward to someone that enlightens me with how its done Regards.

Great to hear this Yeah I am using Quad-Channel running at 2400mhz which is why my scores are not that far. Thank you @unclewebb for explaing with such detail.

I obviously was not expecting a massive jump in performance just by the CPU clocking 200mhz faster and yes it is not going to make any difference in real world workloads. You cannot notice fps jumping from 162 to 175 so yeah I already know even after all this I won't be able to tell if all these tweaks did made a difference. But the thing is that I spent extra for the 1650 V4 instead of the 1650 V3, but the CPU is performing in the neighbourhood of its predecessor, the 1650 V3, honestly even below that. I don't know if the CPU is slow per cycle or something like that because now its not the issue of clock speed as turbo boost also seems to work @3.8Ghz all core and @4Ghz single core so I don't know why would the score of a next gen CPU be lower than the previous gen. I did disable all the Razer and Corsair softwares in the background and was able to get C0% much better than the previous screenshot. Its not as good as yours I would say but thats with Google Chrome open and typing this thread so yeah I think its better now however it is jumping up and high all the time (this one is on the low-end). Checked the BIOS, the C states is enabled and as mentioned I tried the cinebench R15 single core test and ThrottleStop was reporting 4Ghz on 1 core so thats good I guess. Tried Prime95 with Small FFTs selected. The power consumption was same, 84W. But the heat output was about 10 degree higher this time and the hottest core was sitting at 73 degrees. I am using quad channel Ram with 4 sticks of 4GB DDR4 ECC @2400mhz in all the 4 white slots of the motherboard (1st, 2nd, 3rd ,4th) a total of 16GB. 4 black slots are still free for room to upgrade so I don't think quad channel is the issue for lower scores. One more thing I am happy about is now somehow the processor is turboing at 3.8GHz on all cores by default without opening ThrottleStop and pressing Turn On so thats a good thing. I guess enabling SpeedStep did this so ThankYou I really appreciate your time @unclewebb. The way you described everything in detail helped me learn alot. Finally I just want to know if this is all the power I should expect from my CPU, which if yes is honestly not an issue but its just that I know this thing can do better as before buying I checked the benchmarks and it should be at max 8-10% slow on all cores than i7 8700 which has an r15 score of 1400. That makes my score of 1170 17% slower while the 1650 v3 scores 1200 with screen capturing so in theory it should perform better without screen capture and my processor should perform even better which will therefore make it sit in the 8-10% slower range of an i7 8700. I don't know if that all makes sense, here is the link from where I got those benchmark results. https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_xeon_e5_1650_v4-vs-intel_core_i7_8700 A lot of these benchmarks were not performed on the 1650 V4 which is why they are blank but those which were, in all cores they were 6-10% slower than i7 8700. I also tried Geekbench6 all core just about now and I managed a score of 5736 which is about 11.5% slower than 6412, the i7 8700's score so I think thats how it should be and may be the i7 performs better in some loads because it has iGPU so in terms of raw processing power I am probably doing fine. Just not sure. Anyways its just diving in to deep when it all really doesn't matter in real world so I really appreciate your time once again and lets not prolong this any further so I guess your next reply will be the answer to this thread as my initial issue (cpu not turboing) is now resolved. Thanks for the help. Best Regards.

Ok so just enabled the SpeedStep from BIOS, did all those settings in ThrottleStop and ran the benchmarks again.. BOOM its now turboing to 3.8GHz on all cores like it should and the Cinebench R15 scores are better this time around, but not so much. People have posted their videos running Cinebench R15 on a Xeon E3-1650 V3 while recording the screen and were able to get 1200 score (pic also attached). The score I got is 1170 on the next gen chip without screen recording and with the CPU turboing @3.8GHz. So why is my score low? Secondly and an important thing to note, this time while running the benchmark, the TDP was 84W. Never saw it jumped above 72 before that.

Okay so I have disabled Speedstep in BIOS (because it said disabling it puts CPU in the highest performing state) but as I said just like Turbo Boost it shows SpeedStep also as enabled. Anyhow I did the benchmark with both SpeedStep disabled and enabled but only from the software ThrottleStop and not from the BIOS, in the BIOS its disabled from the start. I have placed the screeshot of the second time where I ran it with SpeedStep disabled from the software.

Tried all what you mentioned but it didn't worked (you can see the screenshot). I am pretty sure and have checked more than once that Intel Turbo Boost is enabled in BIOS so I have no idea why ThrottleStop shows that as disabled. Also I need to know if I somehow am able to tweak any setting with this software and unlock my CPU's full potential, is there a way to do it in BIOS or will I have to do it manually every time the system boots. I do know that less Wattage consumption is a good thing. The lesser the wattage the more efficient the chip is and the less heat it dissipates. But I wouldn't want it if it affects my CPU's performance which is why I though that the CPU isn't getting enough power to perform at its full potential.

Here are the screenshots of what you have asked. I have no info about this software so I didn't messed around Here are the screenshots you asked for. I have no information regarding this software and it should a warning message of some king when executing the file so I didn't messed around with any setting.

No extra Network port on the motherboard I/O except the standard RJ45. Looked out for iDRAC in BIOS but couldn't find nothing.

Just Installed all the drivers with thi BIOS. No use still. I am pretty sure its locked by dell. I just want to know how to overwrite it and force enable full cpu utilization, if thats possible ofcourse. The fans seemed to be okay, don't know about the iDRAC

Pretty sure its not that.. I think its just a cpu tdp limit set by dell

Updated the BIOS from version A28 to A34. Checked the BIOS for any additional options but found none. Same result still. Locked at 3591.8MHz at 72W. Scores below i7 3730K

It says it supports upto 14 core E5 2600 and 1600 v3 line ups... but 14 cores... thats still way more power draw than in my case. Also if it supports 1650-1680 v3, they has the same bus speed and honestly my processor isn't event performing at the level of its predecessor 1650 v3.

BTW huge appreciation for the quick replies everyone. As expected from LTT Forums like always.

I went to dell support site and they didn't helped me with anything as they were saying the system is out of warranty. Also this cpu is not what this machine came with. I have upgraded the CPU. Don't remember what the previous one was but I don't think any CPU from the Xeon e5 1600 line-up draws anywhere near 70W.

temps around 70s under full load in back to back benchmarks when cpu fan speed is set to even 50-60%. power supply is original that comes with the workstation 5810 685w Gold rated 85% efficient.

The windows install is fresh. No dell softwares installed. Even those updates are in pending. As of power limiter, I tried my best to look every part of the BIOS but couldn't find anything, yet I am not 100% confident that it could be done from BIOS or not.

is set to Ultimate Performance!

Hi there! Hope you all are doing well! I have a Dell Precision Workstation 5810 with an Intel Xeon E5-1650 V4. The problem is that CPU draws only 72W from the wall as per Open Hardware Monitor under full load in Cinebench R15 (I know its the old one but I have tried R23 as well and it is not performing as it should). The CPU doesn't turbo pass its base clock speed i.e, 3.6GHz when its expected to draw 140W and clock somewhere near 4Ghz (I know it won't do full 4ghz at all cores) resulting in slower performance. And by slower I don't mean the system is slow or anything but in Benchmarks it performs similar to a 3rd Gen i7 3960X which is ridiculous for a Xeon 1650 V4. I have enabled Intel Turbo-Boost and Hyper-threading Technology in BIOS, checked the temps and they are under control even with low fan speeds but I really tried 100% CPU speed and really made it a server like noisy machine. But no help. It just straight up doesn't go above 3591Mhz and draws 72.6-73W at max under full load. I want to waive off this power limiter set from dell. I don't care the means even if there is no simple tweak present to do this. For additional info my PSU is also 685W Gold so its not the 480W some thing small one. Looking for someone to help me with this. Thanks in Advance, Regards.

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