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ATFink

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About ATFink

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  • Birthday 1996-04-27

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    lol... only for Crysis 3
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    Denver area of Colorado
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    Gaming, Biking, Hiking, Building, Tinkering, Design, Welding, Tesla, SpaceX, Research, LTT, etc
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    I don't see why anyone would care about my life just yet. Profile is still tiny.
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    Student

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    i7 4790k @ 4.7 GHz
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    ASUS z97-A
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    4x8 GB 1600 MHz Corsair Vengence
  • GPU
    XFX RX 580 4GB
  • Case
    NZXT S340 Elite
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    Evo 840 120 gb, Evo 840 240 GB, Crucial MX300 525 GB, and 1 Tb 7200 rpm Seagate
  • PSU
    Corsair HX850 80+ gold
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    LG 29UM68-P
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    Corsair h100i
  • Keyboard
    Roccat Ryos MK FX
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    Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum
  • Sound
    Sennheiser HD6XX
  • Operating System
    Windows 10

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  1. ATFink

    i7 6700 non k OC

    You need a z170 board and it needs an older BIOS. Then you can work with BCLK overclocking. BCLK overclocking makes everything clock out of spec including RAM and PCIe. This means you must adjust these back down or you won't have a stable system. If you do not have the motherboard already then don't bother trying to OC. Buying one is investing money in a dead platform and won't benefit performance much at all. Just get a new Motherboard and CPU that actually will increase performance. Preferably AMD since almost all their new products (except the 200GE (except on MSI motherboards with a specific BIOS)) do support overclocking.
  2. ATFink

    CPU fan full speed, please help

    I assume not because the fan speed ramped to 100% immediately on boot and never dipped below 100% at any point. The computer operated perfectly fine if it weren't for the noise from the CPU fan. Windows, SpeedFan, and MSI afterburner recognized the CPU and listed it by name (6700k). Where can you find lists of supported CPUs for OEM boards? EDIT: Apparently his desktop is an Alienware Aurora r5, not r4. Also, the version that ships with the 6700k has different CPU support than the one that ships with the 6400.
  3. ATFink

    CPU fan full speed, please help

    It is an OEM motherboard, this is my little bother's Alienware Aurora r4 desktop. The BIOS is bare bones like a skeleton. Idle temps on the old CPU core (i5 6400) were low to mid 30s. Idle temps on the new CPU core (i7 6700k) were mid to high 20s, but only because the CPU fan was blasted at 100% non-stop. Yes, I did reapply thermal compound. Arctic silver MX5. About a pea size drop right in the center. No air bubble were trapped in the paste during application. Spread was good. I know this because I put the old CPU back in and when I removed the heatsink the thermal compound spread out across almost all of the IHS (except a razor thin section in both the top left and bottom left corners).
  4. ATFink

    CPU fan full speed, please help

    Yes, yes, and yes. I reseated the fan's 4 pin connector several times. Here is a better picture from earlier in the thread: When I put the old 6400 back in the board the fan acted as it use to. That is, only throttling up as a response to the CPU getting hot.
  5. ATFink

    CPU fan full speed, please help

    Thanks for letting me know. I'll check out Argus Monitor and keep it mind in case I need a solution in the future. A resistor makes since to slow it down, but won't adjust CPU fan speed by thermal load. Honestly a thermistor and a few MOSFETs could do the trick. I'd want to etch my own PCB and solder on the components in order for the solution to be less trashy. That's too much work since it's not my PC and my little brother wanted his computer back soon. Unfortunately after discussing the issue with my little brother he said he'll probably just stick with the i5 6400 since the motherboard recognizes and supports the CPU. Fortunately for him he can send the CPU back by March 17th for a for refund since he bought through Amazon. Ironically this makes him want to stick with pre-builts more (since I couldn't fix the problem even though it was Dell's proprietary microcode that caused the issue in the first place).
  6. Once you have the computer together and verify it is working you should download some 3rd party stress testing programs and run them overnight to make sure the system is stable. This is just a precaution. The components are probably fine. I recommend MSI afterburner to monitor CPU and GPU temperature and utilization. I recommend Prime95 to stress test the CPU and RAM. I recommend Unigine Heaven 4.0, Unigine Superposition, and Unigine Valley to stress test the GPU. FireStrike extreme to simultaneously stress test the CPU and GPU. Then you can look into overclocking when you verify the system is stable. EDIT: You should probably leave the clock settings stock to start with. Only overclock if you need to squeeze out more performance from a hardware component. If you're going to overclock anyways I recommend sticking with GPU overclocking if anything since you're new. The PowerColor GPU I recommended will definitely be more than receptive to OCs since it's a way overkill triple fan design. If you really want to overclock the CPU just push the single core turbo across all cores to start. Don't go for broke in your first attempt. Also don't push the voltage slider much (if any) for either CPU or GPU. Voltage = heat = decreased component life. The stock AMD stealth cooler that comes with the 2200G may become a lot louder when if you overclock the CPU (it'll spin faster to convect heat away from heatsink). Whenever you make a tweak (only one at a time) run a stress test on the component to test stability. If it succeeds and meets your expectations do a several hour long test and keep those settings if it passes smoothly.
  7. 1 - Make sure you put the Motherboard on a hard, non-conductive surface outside the case (definitely NOT carpet). I recommend putting the anti-static bag the motherboard should have come in on top of the motherboard box, and put the motherboard on top of the anti-static bag. If there was no anti-static bag just put the motherboard straight on top of the motherboard box. Install the RAM, CPU, and CPU cooler on the motherboard (again outside the case, do not put this in the case yet). a - Be careful when handling the CPU. The pins on the CPU are very fragile. They will bend and you won't be able to install the CPU if you drop the CPU or drop anything on the CPU pins. Look at the pins to make sure they aren't bent prior to installing the CPU in the motherboard. They can bend during shipping. If they are bent they can be fixed, but you are in trouble. Check out Jayz2cents video about how to fix bent CPU pins on PGA CPUs (pins on CPU instead of in motherboard): b - Make sure the plastic clips on the side of the RAM slots are open before you attempt to install the RAM. When installing the RAM you must push with a little bit of force to seat the RAM all the way in the slot. The clips will snap in place once you've pushed the RAM all the way in. Make sure you install the RAM into the motherboard such that the RAM is run in dual channel. See either markings on the motherboard, color match the RAM slots on the motherboard, read the motherboard manual, or look up your motherboard online to make sure when you put in the RAM it is installed in dual channel. c - Make sure you plug the CPU fan into the header on the motherboard that is the designated CPU fan header. 2 - The first piece of hardware you should put in the case is the power supply. Mount it in the case and route the cables you will need to approximately where they should go. These cables should include the CPU power header (probably a 4+4 pin), the 24 pin for the motherboard, the 6+2 pin for the GPU, and the sata power cable for the SSD. 3 - Make sure you install the I/O shield in the case before the motherboard (unless the I/O shield is built into the motherboard). 4 - If your case has pre-installed mother board standoffs you're good to move onto the next step. If not install those now. 5 - Now you're good to put the motherboard with the RAM, CPU, and cooler already installed in the case. 6 - Wire up the front panel USB and I/O. 7 - Install the SSD, the sata power cable from the PSU, and sata data cable from the sata ports on the motherboard to the SSD. 8 - Plug the 24 pin and CPU power cables into the motherboard. 9 - Wire up case fan(s) to the motherboard. 10 - Install the GPU and plug in the 6+2 pin power cable to the GPU. a) You can put the case back together at this point if you want, but you should wait until the end in case you have to troubleshoot anything during installation. b) Plug the video cord from you monitor INTO THE GPU!!!. If you plug it into your motherboard you will not be using the GPU to power the display. That wouldn't help you at all. 11 - Install your OS. Do you know if you're going to run Windows or Linux? Do you know how to boot from a USB to install the OS?
  8. What kind of tips do you want? Building tips and/or a second opinion on the selected hardware? The hardware looks fine, but I'd recommend a better motherboard and a different AIB supplier for the RX 570. Gigabyte screwed the pooch on their RX 4xx cards, so I'm assuming they cheaped out on the RX 5xx series as well. Sapphire, XFX, and Power Color usually make good AMD GPUs. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant Type Item Price CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor £85.99 @ Aria PC Motherboard MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £89.99 @ Box Limited Memory Patriot - 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory £46.79 @ Amazon UK Storage Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £57.96 @ Amazon UK Video Card PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Red Devil Video Card £143.99 @ AWD-IT Case Xigmatek - Scorpio MicroATX Mid Tower Case £27.97 @ Ebuyer Power Supply be quiet! - System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £41.98 @ Amazon UK Monitor AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor £84.96 @ Amazon UK Headphones Patriot - V360 7.1 Channel Headset £26.99 @ Amazon UK Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total £606.62 Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-09 20:26 GMT+0000 I chose the MSI B450M Mortar motherboard because it is the best MicroATX motherboard. Pretty much all mATX b450 boards are very underwhelming and incapable of thermally supporting heavy-ish work loads with moderate core counts CPUs. Good VRM + ok heatsink layout. It'll easily handle an 8 core CPU if you upgrade to a better one down the line. Probably the only mATX motherboard that can be said about. Since the 8 GB of RAM will probably be upgraded I went with some value RAM to save on costs. It won't affect performance very much, but it could be faster with faster RAM. A compromise had to be made to get the computer cost down closer to £600.
  9. ATFink

    CPU fan full speed, please help

    OK, so from a forum on dell's website I read that the motherboards that ship with the i5 6400 and i7 6700k cpus have different microcode for fan control. The 6700k probably isn't a recognized cpu by the stock fan controller and sending full load to the CPU header to prevent overheat failure. I did the most janky rig in the world to get it operating without full speed fans at all times. I unplugged all fans from the CPU fan header and plugged the CPU fan into the top mount case fan header. I then plugged the top mount case fan into the front mount case fan header. Now when the CPU hits 80 degrees Celsius (prime 95 test going right now) the top fan kicks on and helps pull heat away from the stock cpu cooler. After 15 minutes the highest maximum core temp was 83. ~35 at idle. If anyone has a better solution I'm all ears.
  10. ATFink

    CPU fan full speed, please help

    Alright, things are getting strange now. I installed SpeedFan and it does not recognize any fans at all in this computer. Maybe SpeedFan is not compatible with this Dell motherboard? I don't know.
  11. ATFink

    CPU fan full speed, please help

    I plugged the fan back into the correct header. Intel stock heat sink, but it still shouldn't run full blast since the CPU is so cool. Stock motherboard setting. I did not touch the Bios. I assume there is software that came pre-installed on the machine to control CPU fan speed. That seems to not be working right now. There is no 3rd party software related to fan speed installed (except MSI afterburner, but I only used that to monitor cpu temperature).
  12. ATFink

    CPU fan full speed, please help

    Changed from RAID to AHCI and problem remains. No need to save Bios config, the computer will not be overclocked. The 6700k has higher base and boost clocks than the 6700 and costs the same used, so he chose the faster CPU.
  13. ATFink

    CPU fan full speed, please help

    I don't know how to tag on mobile
  14. Just upgraded my little brother's cpu in his alienware aurora today from a an i5 6400 to an i7 6700k. Upon installation of the new CPU the computer did a few bootloops and works fine now, but the CPU fan is running full speed. Immediately on startup the fan just runs full blast. This isn't an overheating issue either (if MSI afterburner is to be believed). MSI afterburner says the CPU temperature jumps around between 22-27 degrees Celsius across all cores (probably low because of the full speed cpu fan and no load). The computer is unusable it is so loud right now. I'd prefer to reinstall the stock fan speed software since it seems to not be working right now, but can any of y'all recomend good software to control the fan curve in case that doesn't work?
  15. ATFink

    AMD Radeon VII Benchmark/Launch Mega Thread

    Except that it is 3.52 TFLOPS not 1.6. It is not useless, it's actually half as fast as an nVidia Tesla V100 in FP64 at less than 1/10th the price.
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