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Also:
There's no reason why it shouldn't be 35, nor lower, nor higher. Being air or water cooled doesn't restrict the delta T to some magic number.
 
That's not informative. GPUs have different die sizes than CPUs, plus direct on-die heatsinks. The temperatures on your GPU don't tell you anything about what to expect on the CPU (other than in extreme cases of terrible case air flow, and still they'll be just loosely correlated).
 
Problem is, who know what settings "people" are using, how they are testing, etc.
Much simpler test: what temps do you get if you keep your settings but use the stock cooler instead?

I think it woudl be worse with a dead pump, but in any case you can check readings for pump rpm and, perhaps, temperature: the x60 had a USB header connector, so you could monitor liquid temps and pump rpm on NZXT software. That's whay I was asking about.
 
But that's not what you said. No, there is no reason to expect the delta T (that is, the difference between ambient temps and CPU temps) to be any specific temperature. I was not talking abotu the difference between the stock cooler and the radiator, but the difference between ambient and CPU. It can be anything, case-specific.
Yes, you would expect better cooling from the AIO, but you haven't told us what your temps are if you change nothing but the cooler.
 
 
It could be, I mean, stress tests are supposed to be stressful  At 70C your cooler seems to be handling your OC just fine, though, so your concern seems to be only in relative terms to other solutions, but for that we need to know what temps would look like under other solutions.
 
I don't think 20C away from the CPU's max temps is ridiculous, though.
 
If running an overclocked 8-core at 60C with ambien temps north of 30C is far from ideal, then maybe it does all boil down to unrealistic expectations...  

Gee speak about exaggeration

@EK Luc @EK_Derick

Yup.  Expect 3-10 years

480mm is easily enough for any component or even full system.   Hybrid pumps generally fail long before radiators 

it will be enough for sure.
temps might not be uber-low like you get with an overkill loop, but they'll still be very low nonetheless.

your choice bro.
you decide if you want to put in the work to redo a custom loop.
 
just FYI, Ryzen is a bad platform to put on water, simply because there are no gains to be had.
you can reach 3.9/4Ghz on air, and 4Ghz on water. no difference.

Ah yeah, I was looking at the Define s. But it doesnt fit my Mobo. It has a raised right edge which interferes with e-Atx mobos. same issue with the NZXT one . Shame as they are what I like aesthetically 
 
It's not big enough for my rads . It looks great though. I want to reuse as much of my existing kit as i can . Also the temps with overkill watercooling are very addictive haha  
 
I might get one of these for a replacement of my 750D proto-powerhouse build... as it is falling apart. So much for corsair quality  

What about NZXT H440?

nvm that poor cable management behind the pc  what sizes are ur rads? just look at that front wasted space due to no watercooling, i believe also without a hardrive and just ssd u can fit a 360 iin the front 

Phanteks enthoo pro m, tempered glass edition, extreme value, great room for watercooling, great airflow for cooling them radiators, infact i belive u can do a 360 in the top, but gl getting that in there, but a 280 in the top and in the should be a problem, has great cable management, looks good imo 
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LbPV2R

NZXT S340 Elite is good looking, there is also one case it is Fractal Design Define S, looks good when watercooling runs in it

http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Luxe-TemperedGlass.html
http://www.thermaltake.com/Chassis/Cube_Case_/Core/C_00003042/Core_X5_Tempered_Glass_Edition/design.htm
prob wil come with a pretty pricetag though
 
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002562 prob the biggest i can think off for you

http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002562 x9 from thermaltake i belive can hold 2x 480 or up to 560mm in the top 1x 480mm in both of the sides, a 360 or 240mm in the front

Same issue really. 
 
The top doesnt have enough clearance for my thick rads and the bottom compartment will be taken up by my ax1500i psu. 
 
Almost regretting getting those thick rads now.

use it as your desk? hahahaha

a 30gb ssd and 160gb hdd? what?
use the stock cooler and spend the money somewhere else.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($158.79 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($47.97 @ Amazon) PNY CS1311 if you can spend abit more.
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) get later if you can't pay extra for rebates.
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($226.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $652.19
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Swap out a 1700 non-x, get a smaller PSU~550W. Get rid of the hdd and invest in a better monitor and more case fans. No point getting a 1080ti and a 1080p screen. You can always add more hdd space later, 500gbssd is pretty adequate.
 
As for NHD-15 vs h115i. The performance should be similar albeit better on the watercooler. Also the watercooler puts less stran on the mobo as there is not a massive block of metal hanging off it and the heat is directly exhausted out of the case and not left to the case airflow to deal with.
 
personaly I would get the aircooler as it is a quality product a d should never leak or fail on you. And the fans you get are quality.
 
 
 
 

Both coolers are more than enough for Ryzen, the NH-D15 will be more reliable (as you won't need to worry about pump failure, water evaporation, or line blockages). air flow fans aren't great on radiators, and corsair fans don't have very good performance for their noise.

Swap out a 1700 non-x, get a smaller PSU~550W. Get rid of the hdd and invest in a better monitor and more case fans. No point getting a 1080ti and a 1080p screen. You can always add more hdd space later, 500gbssd is pretty adequate.
 
As for NHD-15 vs h115i. The performance should be similar albeit better on the watercooler. Also the watercooler puts less stran on the mobo as there is not a massive block of metal hanging off it and the heat is directly exhausted out of the case and not left to the case airflow to deal with.
 
personaly I would get the aircooler as it is a quality product a d should never leak or fail on you. And the fans you get are quality.
 
 
 
 

Swap out a 1700 non-x, get a smaller PSU~550W. Get rid of the hdd and invest in a better monitor and more case fans. No point getting a 1080ti and a 1080p screen. You can always add more hdd space later, 500gbssd is pretty adequate.
 
As for NHD-15 vs h115i. The performance should be similar albeit better on the watercooler. Also the watercooler puts less stran on the mobo as there is not a massive block of metal hanging off it and the heat is directly exhausted out of the case and not left to the case airflow to deal with.
 
personaly I would get the aircooler as it is a quality product a d should never leak or fail on you. And the fans you get are quality.
 
 
 
 

A passively cooled HD 5450 is what my Intel P67 chipset powered server uses since that lacks Intel IGP support.  While others argue an HD 7950 'won't use too much power if idle' let's considder some other things:
 
1) The HD 7950 is still going to need power connectors and clutter up the machine with more wires feeding into it.
2) The HD 7950 is huge and taking up two slots, possibly blocking another slot which could be used for a SATA controller card.
3) The HD 7950 will most likely be spinning it's fans, even if at low speed, at all times.
 
Meanwhile, while not as discrete as IGP, you can't deny that this HD 5450 in my server takes up a lot less space, it's passive (Not all versions are passive, so look before you buy), and it doesn't need any external power cables.
 

Literally just go buy the cheapest GPU you can find. HD5450's are often found for very cheap on most retailer websites. Or you can check eBay I guess.