bowman

How would you describe "way better"? Because the audio IC is technically the same on both boards. Is the difference in the software suite?

Its not about vendors being better of one another. Its abot certain VRM configurations each vendor chooses to use on a particular board design. In this case, among all B350 boards the pro carbon's "big 4+2" (4+2 PWM with double the components on the Vcore side) is the best design you can get on B350 currently. Period. Of course, Asuses simple 4+2 design is going to be better in current output than MSI's 3+2 but thats irrelevant to the point. The Strix uses doubled low side on a 4+2 design, so almost the same as MSI's big 4+2 but missing half the chokes and highside FETs per phase. Thats a difference though. Asuses design is doubled on SoC side however, which i find useless. Also they use different manufacturers for MOSFETs, like ONSemi for Asus, Niko-Sem for MSI. I've always known ONSemi to be better, but surprisingly the datasheets tell a different story, where the NikoSem-s can handle more current. Ultimately for anyone OCing an R5 both boards will do just fine. Into the future, regarding Zen+, the MSI's design seem to be a bit superior.

I think you are refering to lower end MSI boards being worse than the Asuses as they use 3+2 designs if i recall correctly. In his crash course video, buildzoid clearly marks the MSI B350 Gaming Pro Carbon to be the best B350 board VRM wise. Also you're missing the fact that the B350 variant pro carbon board has the same doubled 4+2 design as the much more expensive X370 one. Although the pro carbon is still technically the same 4phase design as the Strix, the doubling gives it twice the components altogether to supply current on. Priced nearly the same, the MSI board might be a better choice regarding power delivery. However, taking other factors into account like aesthetics, software, BIOS, the Strix holds on for its own. Im also in hesitation between the two of them...

It's like 90% the same as the old one, which was perfectly fine the way it was but like yeah....whatever..

I'd suggest that too. That wheel should not even remotely have those issues in 6months , considering that you dont use it very often.

Well i think its more likely some kind of a dfgt replacement as others said. It looks horrbile if you ask me... Oh really? I still own my very first controller; a G25 which is like 6-7years old, works perfectly fine and stable to this very moment. (and not like i didn't beat the shit out of it during the years) Never had any issue using it , other than the pedal potentiometers got itchy after a while, but usually a clean fixed it. I guess you're doing something wrong if you "used up" a G27 in half a year (considering a 27 should be even stronger than a 25 i guess)

Thats the point

Here we go again..the never ending debate over Hawaii's power draw. Unbeliveable. Dude , GCN and amd APU-s are cutting edge.

I think they understand this better than anyone else does.

+1 from me Corsair's branding always looked elegant and kind of mature for me. Why does everyone have to jump on this flameish wowz "so gaming" branding trend? Also, do they really want us to believe that these pre-existent, re-colored products are "so gaming" now? Bollocks......

If this absorbing capability is real, this is a great breakthrough, but the military is going to use it (obviously) for scary things like other technologies which we use in life. (or not yet) I think the scary part is not that you can hide something from "the naked eye" considering that it is so black that going to be the thing that makes it visible , but you can make it unvisible from technically all our modern detecting equipment. Dangerous and marvelous at the same time.

270X Hawk user here. Absolutely fantastic card. I can only recommend it. Top notch PCB, solid power delivery, outstanding cooling (the most quiet card i've ever had), strong OC potential. It is all around superior to the gigabyte version. Its among the greatest quality 270x cards that he could buy. The gaming edition is a great option too for a bit less money.

Bump (yeah i know its old but still..)

Just press the jump button , and you'll jump. wow i gotta preorder

Nope, nothing is being displayed then you dont need a working gpu. I am using DVI output. Yes it does switch off your first , or only GPU. (at least it should , as in my case) Anyone else?