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That's awesome! I mean, you are targeting 1080p60, so that card will last you a good while for that on high/ultra settings.

Glad to hear it!

What's the price difference? If they are similarly priced, I would get the RTX 2060. You get the new NVENC on RTX along with DLSS, which both I think are worth having.

I second this, as the Taichi is advertised for this task. This is actually the unique niche that justifies the Taichi's cost. I highly recommend pursuing this variant as you need this. https://www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/AMD/Radeon RX 5700 XT Taichi X 8G OC+/

I am running multiple displays and can confirm I would get a weird flicker coming out of standby trying to play games full screen. A reboot fixes it. I wouldn't classify this problem as a reason to avoid the card. I did just upgrade to 19.10.2 and the experience has been far more stable while toying with the AMD Overlay. Also, I have been playing Metro Exodus on Ultra butter smooth.

I recommend doing another DDU and then doing an express install of the optional 19.10.2 drivers. If you have not installed the AMD chipset drivers, please do so. I find a lot of people don't install these.

I recommend seeing how you perform on the monitor before upgrading. I would also recommend overclocking the 1070 to squeeze out some more performance. I wouldn't recommend anything less than a 2080S though for what you are targeting, if you do decide to upgrade.

The Gigabyte card is really good. I would recommend that between the two.

As a first generation Ryzen owner, I've seen similar weirdness happen too. I hope you aren't using Ryzen Master, as I've seen Ryzen Master do weird things, like lock the CPU to 1.5ghz for literally no reason back in 2017. I know you have done some of these things, but here is the order I would pursue. My recommendation would be to: Update the BIOS and set to factory defaults. Reinstall Windows (fresh, not from a reset). Install latest AMD chipset drivers and graphics drivers. Test If test is successful, then introduce your overclock. With a 1700X you should be able to run 3.8ghz-4.0ghz stable without much issue. I think your biggest problem here, which is a hugh bottleneck, is using DDR4 2400mhz memory. We are talking easily 10%-20% performance loss. The magic RAM number on gen 1 Ryzen is 3000, with 3200 being the absolute max for performance and compatibility. Though others may disagree, I would NOT use Ryzen Master with a generation 1 Ryzen CPU and stick to using the BIOS exclusively. That caused me such headaches back two years ago, to the point where I do not trust it in the slightest. The story may have changed, but I stick by my recommendation on this

If your budget is that low, a better power supply and a new RX 570/580 is my recommendation. you are running an i3-8100, so those cards will max out your CPU. 4C/4T will struggle with more modern AAA titles, so I think that's the highest you should go.

Are people in this thread seriously trying to say the RTX 2060S is comparable to the 5700XT in gaming performance? Based on respected reviewers, the 5700XT is 5%-10% slower than the 2070 Super on average across dozens of games. The RTX 2060S's niche is honestly for those both serious about streaming and content creation along with gaming. it blows the RX 5700 series out of the water in terms of what it can churn out in content creation tasks and the better NVENC makes it light years better for Streaming and any other GPU accelerated tasks. Until Navi drivers aren't iffy and AMD fixes VCE support (since the hardware isn't bad, just the software side is trash), the RTX 2060S is the better all around card. If you are just gaming and the other stuff isn't that critical to you, get the 5700XT and enjoy the better gaming experience. When it comes to ray tracing, performance is pretty bad across the board and only the 2080ti really gets good performance using it. We are along way away from most games having great implementation with it too, since let's be real, any of the console games currently in development are not using ray tracing in any meaningful way. The new consoles release over a year from now. I wouldn't expect real showings of ray tracing on consoles until 2021. By that time, cards will be out that can achieve 60fps+ at 1080p+, and that's when it will matter. That will also be the time where upgrading the cards we own today will make sense for better ray tracing performance among other perks. I doubt a single person on this forum is going to be recommending a current generation RTX card for ray tracing a year+ from now and most will be recommending to upgrade if at all possible. With that rant out of the way, I would get an RTX 2080 over an RTX 2070 Super if they are the same price. It is still a smidge faster, so why not get more performance for your money?

I was able to see 2088mhz max boost without really any additional tweaking on GPU Tweak, so that worked out. I find AMD Wattman buggy as my settings were pretty solid until I started playing in there, which then caused me to crash to desktop in some games. I am running the 10/17 release of 19.10.1 I may revisit when the next driver update hits, but I think the 1966mhz I am getting just from letting the Strix do its thing naturally is good enough :).

If money is no object, get a high end X570 and a nice 3600 ram kit and be done with it. You can do similar if you do your research on B450 boards that support faster ram. I do agree with @Streetguru that if you can spend it, go X570 and do it right.

Honestly, Wattman and Navi I find to be very buggy. I actually did a fresh driver install because I switched from using GPU Tweak to Wattman for OC profiles and it made it unstable. As per the Time Spy Stress Tests (Standard and Extreme) my Strix maxed at 80C, and this is with the stock OC profile hitting 1966mhz. I think if I undervolt, I may be able to get it to hit 2150mhz stable. I was toying with that OCed and would get game crashes here and there and it did not pass the stress test. Stress test reported temp rising up to 85C+ after 10-15 minutes or so, before it crashed. That's good to know!

Please go to AMD directly and download the latest chipset drivers. Also download the latest video card drivers from AMD. Depending on the game, HDD performance will cause stutters

I remember my experience with the R9 380 being pretty rock solid stable. What problems are you having? I have basically nixed alll of my performance issues by setting vsync to "Always off" in Global Settings. The only other issue I have had is black screen flickering when coming out of stand by on some games, but that is fixed with a quick reboot. This, however, is a known issue by AMD.

I honestly would recommend finding one that allows for two NVME capable M.2s.

Is it worth it to play around with? I am not familiar if Navi benefits in the same ways as Vega does from undervolting.

I don't think there is a reason to tease the OP asking this question. It is a legit question. Maybe it is just because I remember a time where both NVIDIA and AMD routinely just used the same GPUs across their spread of cards and just cut them down via software. I still remember when you could easily turn a Geforce 6800 into a 6800GT with a BIOS flash, as all of the hardware was identical, just shut off via firmware/bios. Modders almost never bought a GT at the time because why spend the money when the only difference was 4 pixel pipelines that were still present on the vanilla card. This was fairly common a decade ago, so you never know. People now are flashing RX 5700s into XTs and getting most of the performance back, so you never know. It's very generation specific. Sadly, this is not the case with a 2080 and 2080S.

If you want 144fps at high settings, I would recommend the 2080 Super. The 5700XT and 2070 Super are good cards, but you are not going to do high/ultra settings across AAA titles at that fps with them at that resolution.

I would highly recommend getting more ram. 16GB is really entry level for a content creation rig. I would argue 32GB minimum, 64GB being the sweet spot for performance for most workloads. I would also recommend, if possible getting two M.2s for Windows Apps, Source file / active projects, and an HDD for just storage for final projects. Cost should be similar, and that allows you to segregate Windows and Applications onto one, and use the other specifically for your source files. These two are probably far more important than nitpicking on CPU performance, as Ryzen 3000 really closes the gap and the option to drop in a 12C or 16C Ryzen 3000 part down the line for a massive upgrade makets Socket AM4 a no brainer IMO. I do plan to upgrade my friend on his X470 board to a Ryzen 3000 or 4000 when he starts to think his 2700X with the stock cooler isn't cutting it anymore. As long as the video card is a modern Geforce, it should be fine. I think the sweet spot would be a GTX 1660 as you get the new NVENC (you do NOT get that on the 1650) and you get more VRAM, which will help with preview rendering. RAM is critical for preview rendering and operating in more complex time lines, which is why I recommend more system ram and more VRAM. Great articles below to review: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CPU-Roundup-AMD-Ryzen-3rd-Gen-AMD-Threadripper-2-Intel-9th-Gen-Intel-X-series-1535/ https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/First-Look-at-AMD-Ryzen-3rd-Gen-CPUs-for-Video-Editing-1522/ https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/After-Effects-GPU-Roundup-NVIDIA-SUPER-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT-1553/

You will bottleneck the GPU using an EGPU solution. I would say the Vega 56 is plenty, as you won't be able to max out its performance over thunderbolt 3. My only concern with putting that in an eGPU enclosure is the power consumption, so definitely pay attention to that when looking at enclosures.

I would say yes. I have had a good time doing 2560x1080 with my RX 5700 XT on my 200hz monitor, and the 2070S is 5%-10% faster.

Silly ask, but going back to the beginning of the thread, it doesn't seem like you installed the AMD chipset drivers, just the video card drivers. I suggest you install the latest of those, and let us know if that helps. I could see odd stuttering occurring without them, especially with the Ryzen specific tweaks in the most recent Windows 10 patch. Another curiosity is the Crucial SSD. I do see stuttering here and there when using my 7200RPM HDDs for gaming, so I typically just run more demanding games on my M.2 I wonder what the read/write speeds are on that SSD, and if that is causing you to stutter in specific games.