GeathX
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lol my god...... The levels of mis-infomation, refusal to acknoledge facts and general butt hurt in the thread is astounding I'll just say one thing. The external box does nothing to provide extra processing power. I more akin to a video splitter, sending the image the the HMD and undistorting the image so it can be shown on a TV at the same time.
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Appears we have taken a slight turn off the main topic here
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Exactly. If people think a 5960X costs Intel 2x as much to make as a 5930K.....It don't
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Thing is though, AMD was never and will never get those peoples money anyway, so it isn't like they lost it. Whats been happening the last couple of years is that the people that do go by price and performance (for CPUs at least) are going to Intel.
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This is true. It's easy to forget that AMD use to price their CPUs comparativly to Intel not that long ago. Even then, a $600 Zen 8 core is going to be a lot cheaper than a 5960X or even a 5930k. Still a win in my books. Would then, stands to reason a 6 core variant would be even cheaper again. Thing to remember is the pricing we are seeing from Intel is because AMD doesn't have a competative high end CPU. Zen won't be as cheap as the current range of AMD cpus, but they don't have to be as long as they perform. if AMD can match intel on performance, hopefully they try to slightly under cut Intel to gain back market share.
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This sounds pretty much perfect to me. If a 6 core varient of Zen is priced below a 5820K and motherboards aren't stupidly expensive, sounds like I'll be rebuild my small render farm towards the end of the year
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And being able to plug headphones directly into the controller is one of my favorite features
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Ubisoft's Announced a New VR Game called Eagle Flight.
GeathX replied to Rohith_Kumar_Sp's topic in Tech News
The panel in the head set you mean? Pretty sure its rated for 120fps. -
I said it has the same ACE setup as the 290x... http://www.eteknix.com/playstation-4-amd-radeon-r9-290x-gpu-share-8-asynchronous-compute-engines/ http://gamenmotion.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/playstation-4-amd-radeon-r9-290x-gpu.html This allows the ps4 to have the same fine grain compute control as the 290x and its what every one was raving about with Ashes of the Singularity. Also going to be rather important for their VR venture. Actual power wise... looking at something between a 7850 and 7870. Lower clock than the 7870 but more stream processors than the 7850 and access to more RAM than either of the GPUs had.
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Hmm, at the very least it is mid range, borrowing design aspects from the higher range. It has the same 8 ACE setup as the 290x and elements of TrueAudio.
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That GTA V vid is interesting, at 6:49 the VRAM usage is at 4394MB, whats going on there? Its funny, only recently did I run into this issue with my 970. Messing around with SCII and DSR to see if I could game at 4k with it. I was playing some of the in engine cut scenes and suddenly get really low frame rates depending on what was in the shot. I was monitoring the VRAM usage and every part that had choppy frame rates the VRAM was over the 3.5GB mark. Other shots in the same cut scenese with less objects, the memory would drop down and I'd get good frame rates again. Yes, am very much aware the 970 isn't meant for 4k , just interesting that these cut scenes were able to show the very sudden impact of the less than optimum memory setup.
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I was more alluding to that even now most people wouldn't upgrade their machines at all, other than maybe the 3 groups you referenced. Or if they do it would be by recommendation of an enthusiast.
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To be fair, is it really that different now?
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Oh of course the CPU doesn't really gain that much being in a HBM setup. I was more looking at the big picture that a CPU, GPU and an entire systems memory, could be located within a very small amount of space. A dual or quad CPU with a half decent GPU and say....4-32GB of HBM2 memory would fulfill most combinations of Apple assorted Mac Books and iMacs. Would make for simpiler system boards as Apple wouldnt need to worry about where to solder the memory. This could be extended out to the rest of the manufacturures all trying to make smaller thinner windows machines. Could even go to tablets (though maybe not HBM but another varient) and most likely consoles, if the next batch are released with local hardware.
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Hey thanks Blake, thats a nice table of data EDIT (Removed table data. Table works in post setup but isn't posted correctly.) So what can we infer with this then...... HBM1 and 2 look to be in the same area of GDDR5 as far as latency goes. Looking at the above data, looks like HBM1 or 2 could maybe fill in that L4 cache. Slightly faster than going to system RAM, potential huge increase to BW. Looks like it could well compete with the whole setup intel is going with their crystalwell systems. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested/3 If I'm reading that graph correctly, the eDRAM Intel is using could have a slightly higher latency hit than a HBM setup? Obviously they are different tech for some what different purposes. But looking at this I feel that APU setups could benifit greatly from HBM1 or 2.
