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  1. Agree
    KaitouX got a reaction from LAwLz in Intel claims Core i9-13900K will be 11% faster on average than AMD Ryzen 9 7950X in gaming   
    The 7950X is usually slightly better in heavy all-core while the 13900K is usually better in lighter workloads and gaming. The 13700K and 13600K are way better than what AMD has at similar prices.
  2. Informative
    KaitouX reacted to Dr_Whom in Intel claims Core i9-13900K will be 11% faster on average than AMD Ryzen 9 7950X in gaming   
    ICYMI HUB has acknowledged the discrepancies in their power scaling tests and have contributed it to the motherboard auto voltage they believe.
     
     
  3. Informative
    KaitouX reacted to porina in Intel claims Core i9-13900K will be 11% faster on average than AMD Ryzen 9 7950X in gaming   
    I've plotted the power scaling for Cinebench R23 from Hardware Unboxed and ComputerBase. I got lazy, sorry, power on horizontal axis, score on vertical. I used same scaling on the two carts. I wanted to overlay them but I couldn't figure out how on Google Sheets. Anyway, it's obvious their results are very different, although 7950X remains on top in both cases. HUB's results make it look like are Intel even trying. ComputerBase's results are pretty close to each other. A little more digging may be an idea. Maybe tomorrow I'll see if I can get a different sheet, and also add more R23 scores/powers from other sources to see how they stack up.
     
    Edit: Better chart in later post. Scroll down to find it.
     
  4. Like
    KaitouX got a reaction from porina in Intel claims Core i9-13900K will be 11% faster on average than AMD Ryzen 9 7950X in gaming   
    Important to note that this Techspot/HUB chart goes against to what Intel themselves claimed and that ComputerBase confirmed, that 13900K@65W is almost on par with 12900K@Stock on average, Intel used SPEC, ComputerBase used their own test suite. DerBauer CB R20 results are close to ComputerBase ones too.
     
    You can find the complete ComputerBase charts here: https://www.computerbase.de/2022-10/intel-core-i9-13900k-i7-13700-i5-13600k-test/2/#abschnitt_leistung_in_apps_bei_reduzierter_tdp
  5. Like
    KaitouX got a reaction from porina in Intel claims Core i9-13900K will be 11% faster on average than AMD Ryzen 9 7950X in gaming   
    ComputerBase has a decent amount of tests on the 13900K and 13700K at lower power limits, derBauer has a video on it where he shows CB, 3DMark CPU test and games at lower power limits and some with undervolting on the 13900K. HUB did a Cinebench power curve comparison between the 7950X and 13900K in their review.
  6. Like
    KaitouX got a reaction from LAwLz in Intel claims Core i9-13900K will be 11% faster on average than AMD Ryzen 9 7950X in gaming   
    ComputerBase review show some pretty surprising numbers for the i7-13700K, I fully expected it to be just a 12900KS with some minor improvements, but in their tests it actually manages to almost match the 12900KS and slightly beat the 12900K in CB R23/R20 MT while limited to 142W, for better context the 12900K is a bit over 15% slower than stock when limited to 140W.
    The 13600K looks good too, managing to beat the 12700K by a decent 7% margin in MT, unfortunately I have yet to see any tests showing it with lower power limits.
     
    It still feels weird that Intel is the one significantly improving performance/$ in MT for the ~$400 and below price mark while AMD regressed when comparing to Alder Lake and Zen 3 prices in the last year.
  7. Funny
    KaitouX got a reaction from Gamer Schnitzel in 3 major L's for Apple in Brazil - A third court decision in Brazil in two years earned Apple it's third fine, and power adapters are now mandatory   
    Most people sell/give their old phones together with the charger to someone. Brand name chargers aren't cheap in Brazil, Apple own charger costs R$220 which currently is 42 USD, a bit less than 1/5 of the monthly minimum wage or 1/12 of the average monthly wage, Anker, Samsung, Motorola and similar chargers are all around R$100~120, the cheapest one that looks decent in my quick search is R$60. Also I'm pretty sure that if you try to buy an iPhone they will try to make you buy the charger with it, implying that it's better than others or that you could lose your warranty in case of any issues when using third-party ones. When my father was looking for phones in the Samsung store when they first released the phone without the charger, they said things like that, and when my brother bought his iPhone the shop pretty much made him buy the Apple charger arguing he needed the new one(the one with the USB-C port).
    Samsung solution of providing the chargers to those who request it seems to be valid, so not sure why you're going on that "Brazil wants Apple to send chargers to everyone who bought the iPhone 12".
  8. Informative
    KaitouX got a reaction from MD Utsho in 12700 build vs 12600K build?   
    As long as you give the 12700 enough cooling and power it's going to be faster than the 12600K in most tasks. Here's a review showing the 12700 at stock and no power limit: https://www.techspot.com/review/2391-intel-core-i7-12700/
    But it might be worth waiting for the 13600K to see if it's a good option.
  9. Informative
    KaitouX got a reaction from Bruuuh in 3060 vs 3060TI vs 3060TI   
    From the 3060Ti models the Nvidia one is much better, assuming you can get it for $400, go for it. Also that MSI 3060 model is pretty bad, MSI good model is the Gaming X, good models are only usually only worth considering if they aren't close in price to the next tier GPU though.
    I would go with the 3060Ti unless Linux support or something like that is an issue or the 6700XT is cheaper. The performance is basically the same*, but the 3060Ti has more features overall, is better at RT/Productivity and, at least in my experience, is also better when power limited/undervolted.
     
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  10. Like
    KaitouX got a reaction from MyLittleFella in 7700x or 7900x for 3440x1440 gaming?   
    Unless the good price you say is the Microcenter promotion that gives you a free 2x16GB DDR5-5600 CL36, essentially making the CPU+RAM cost $150 less, I wouldn't even consider Zen 4 CPUs. I would either go with Alder Lake for an all-rounder CPU, with the 5800X3D for a gaming only CPU, or wait for Raptor Lake.
    Raptor Lake might also get some good promotions on Microcenter too if you wait for it. The 12700K was sold for $300 shortly after launch there.
  11. Agree
    KaitouX got a reaction from thechinchinsong in Intel Innovation 2022 - Raptor Lake Announced, on shelves October 20   
    So pricing wise the competition would look like this:
    7950X - $700
    13900K(F) / 7900X - ~$550
    13700K(F) / 7700X - ~$400
    13600K(F) / 7600X - ~$300
     
    Intel seems to be the better option across the board even when ignoring the platform cost, which would put Intel further ahead. AMD might have to speedrun a price cut to be competitive, unless they're betting the platform longevity and current mindshare are enough to keep people away from going with Intel.
     
    Space efficiency, 4 E-cores are similar sized to 1 P core, but perform like 2. P-cores are as power efficient if not more efficient than E-cores when not boosting like crazy.
  12. Informative
    KaitouX got a reaction from Bearded_Ed in Using PC On TV In Another Room - Frustration with Windows opening things on the wrong screens   
    The options "PC Screen Only" and "Second Screen only" do the same thing as going in to the Windows/GPU options and turning the monitor/TV off. The selected display will act like it's the only display connected to the PC. If you select the TV, the monitor will automatically turn off due to signal loss, if you select the monitor, the TV will show the Signal loss/No Input screen and probably eventually turn off.
    The option "Extend" is probably what you're currently using.
    The option "Duplicate" is going to make one of the screens look bad, due to scaling/resolution mismatch.
  13. Like
    KaitouX got a reaction from Hairless Monkey Boy in Using PC On TV In Another Room - Frustration with Windows opening things on the wrong screens   
    Getting a keyboard to use at the TV and using Win+P to keep only the TV/Monitor in use by windows is the easiest way to achieve what you want in my opinion.
    I had a similar setup that I did that, it also avoid annoyances with the cursor disappearing to the other display.
  14. Like
    KaitouX got a reaction from rrats in Brazil bans charger-less iPhones and fines Apple   
    Samsung was fined and started including chargers with their phones in Brazil, all brands are required to include the charger with the purchase of the phone, it doesn't matter if it's inside the box or separate.
    The law considers mainly the reasonable expectation of the consumer regarding what is needed for the device to work, an accessory is usually used together with another device, making a charger not an requirement, a phone is considered as a product that should work without requiring others.
    From the official document:
    Roughly translates to: "The smartphones introduced in the market by the brand starting from the iPhone 12 line are not commercialized as accessories, updates, or appendages of previous versions of the same device, nor are the sales limited to owners of other devices made by the same company."... "If the utility of a good depends of another that isn't provided by the manufacturer, nor has its presence presupposed in the consumer's life and ambient, the simultaneous non-availability of the charger in relation to the smartphone becomes unlawful."
    Important to note that Apple was notified and requested to give the charger together with the phone before, and were fined multiple times by state consumer protections entities, just like Samsung, but due to the refusal to comply now they are getting fined again and having the sales halted in a federal level.
  15. Informative
    KaitouX reacted to igormp in Brazil bans charger-less iPhones and fines Apple   
    Didn't know about that, the one I saw was this one: https://g1.globo.com/tecnologia/noticia/2021/10/27/apple-e-samsung-sao-notificadas-pelo-governo-novamente-apos-venda-de-celulares-sem-carregadores.ghtml
     
    And yes, even if you buy a S22 straight from samsung or through a 3rd party it won't come with the charger and you'll need to request it from their website.
  16. Agree
    KaitouX got a reaction from DeScruff in Popular Illustration Software "Clip Studio Paint" announces change to its single-time purchase model, going towards subscription based updates.   
    Releasing a new version and requiring payment for it is fine, blocking updates to said new version behind an annual subscription, and downgrading the software back to the original if you stop paying for the subscription, not so much.
    This just looks like they're preparing to make it subscription only in the future.
  17. Like
    KaitouX got a reaction from GazCBG in RTX 2070 Super to RTX 3070 not TI worth it?   
    No, the 2080 Ti performs about the same as the 3070 which is ~10% better than the 3060 Ti.


     
     
  18. Agree
    KaitouX got a reaction from Bombastinator in Worth paying spending another 400$ on my build for DDR5?   
    DDR5 is only worth it if you're already on the best CPU and GPU for the use case. The performance increase from going for a better CPU or GPU is bigger than going for DDR5.
  19. Like
    KaitouX got a reaction from snappercayt in Popular Illustration Software "Clip Studio Paint" announces change to its single-time purchase model, going towards subscription based updates.   
    Summary
     
    Popular illustration software Clip Studio Paint announced this week that starting from version 2.0 it's going to be changing its business model, making subscriptions more prominent. Clip Studio Paint is popular between artists in great part due to its Comic/Illustration focused feature set and single-time purchase model, so the new model is being heavily criticized by the users. Celsys, company who makes the software, released the following image to illustrate their new business model:

    The new system would work the following way:
    Current license owners would receive features updates until the last update before the Ver. 2.0 release(H1 2023), and stability updates until the 3.0 release. Versions 1.X would continue to work.
    People who buy the Ver. 2.0 will have access only to stability updates, no feature updates at all.
    People who are already on the existing monthly subscription will have access to all updates.
    Anyone of the first 2 groups can subscribe to an annual Update Pass to get access to updates for one year, if the user doesn't renew the Update Pass the software would get downgraded to the last owned version.
     
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    My thoughts
     Another software going towards subscription based monetization, I wouldn't be surprised if the intention is to go fully subscription based by the release of Ver. 3.0. The worst part of the announcement in my opinion is that Version 2.0 buyers won't receive any feature updates at all, effectively forcing users to get either an annual or monthly subscription to get access to feature updates in a software that will have been just released. Though people that just bought the software with the expectation they would continue to receive updates for some time, as the software has been getting updates for many years, getting suddenly told they will only receive a few months worth of updates if they don't buy the "Season Pass/DLC" is also pretty bad.
    I use Clip Studio, but wanted to move to Krita for some time due to the lack of Linux support on Clip Studio, this change make me look forward even more to Krita improvements and new features, so I can finally make the change without missing useful features. This model change might greatly increase Krita popularity as a FOSS alternative, at least as long Celsys doesn't backtrack on their decision. I'm guessing many will continue using the older 1.X versions for quite some time, but with Windows seemingly going back to getting new versions every 3 years, it might start to have issues with those new Windows versions, many others will probably look into PaintTool SAI, Krita and other alternatives.
     
    Sources
    https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/22/23316413/clip-studio-paint-subscription-plan-angry-artists-digital-illustration
    https://gizmodo.com/clip-studio-paint-celsys-photoshop-1849442803
    https://fossbytes.com/clip-studio-paint-adds-update-pass-and-upsets-its-users/
  20. Agree
    KaitouX got a reaction from Mihle in Popular Illustration Software "Clip Studio Paint" announces change to its single-time purchase model, going towards subscription based updates.   
    Releasing a new version and requiring payment for it is fine, blocking updates to said new version behind an annual subscription, and downgrading the software back to the original if you stop paying for the subscription, not so much.
    This just looks like they're preparing to make it subscription only in the future.
  21. Agree
    KaitouX got a reaction from WereCat in Popular Illustration Software "Clip Studio Paint" announces change to its single-time purchase model, going towards subscription based updates.   
    Releasing a new version and requiring payment for it is fine, blocking updates to said new version behind an annual subscription, and downgrading the software back to the original if you stop paying for the subscription, not so much.
    This just looks like they're preparing to make it subscription only in the future.
  22. Agree
    KaitouX got a reaction from PDifolco in Making Sure this is a good build   
    PCPartPicker Part List
    CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£316.98 @ Amazon UK)
    CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£55.00 @ Computer Orbit)
    Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£127.99 @ Box Limited)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£94.79 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Storage: Silicon Power A60 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£76.43 @ Amazon UK)
    Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB TUF GAMING OC V2 Video Card  (£699.00 @ Amazon UK)
    Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£74.49 @ Ebuyer)
    Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£97.99 @ AWD-IT)
    Total: £1542.67
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-27 13:40 BST+0100
     
    Better CPU and GPU, I made it based on the price of the build you posted, so it ended up £140 over the budget.
  23. Informative
    KaitouX got a reaction from thechinchinsong in Popular Illustration Software "Clip Studio Paint" announces change to its single-time purchase model, going towards subscription based updates.   
    Summary
     
    Popular illustration software Clip Studio Paint announced this week that starting from version 2.0 it's going to be changing its business model, making subscriptions more prominent. Clip Studio Paint is popular between artists in great part due to its Comic/Illustration focused feature set and single-time purchase model, so the new model is being heavily criticized by the users. Celsys, company who makes the software, released the following image to illustrate their new business model:

    The new system would work the following way:
    Current license owners would receive features updates until the last update before the Ver. 2.0 release(H1 2023), and stability updates until the 3.0 release. Versions 1.X would continue to work.
    People who buy the Ver. 2.0 will have access only to stability updates, no feature updates at all.
    People who are already on the existing monthly subscription will have access to all updates.
    Anyone of the first 2 groups can subscribe to an annual Update Pass to get access to updates for one year, if the user doesn't renew the Update Pass the software would get downgraded to the last owned version.
     
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    My thoughts
     Another software going towards subscription based monetization, I wouldn't be surprised if the intention is to go fully subscription based by the release of Ver. 3.0. The worst part of the announcement in my opinion is that Version 2.0 buyers won't receive any feature updates at all, effectively forcing users to get either an annual or monthly subscription to get access to feature updates in a software that will have been just released. Though people that just bought the software with the expectation they would continue to receive updates for some time, as the software has been getting updates for many years, getting suddenly told they will only receive a few months worth of updates if they don't buy the "Season Pass/DLC" is also pretty bad.
    I use Clip Studio, but wanted to move to Krita for some time due to the lack of Linux support on Clip Studio, this change make me look forward even more to Krita improvements and new features, so I can finally make the change without missing useful features. This model change might greatly increase Krita popularity as a FOSS alternative, at least as long Celsys doesn't backtrack on their decision. I'm guessing many will continue using the older 1.X versions for quite some time, but with Windows seemingly going back to getting new versions every 3 years, it might start to have issues with those new Windows versions, many others will probably look into PaintTool SAI, Krita and other alternatives.
     
    Sources
    https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/22/23316413/clip-studio-paint-subscription-plan-angry-artists-digital-illustration
    https://gizmodo.com/clip-studio-paint-celsys-photoshop-1849442803
    https://fossbytes.com/clip-studio-paint-adds-update-pass-and-upsets-its-users/
  24. Informative
    KaitouX got a reaction from Taf the Ghost in Popular Illustration Software "Clip Studio Paint" announces change to its single-time purchase model, going towards subscription based updates.   
    Summary
     
    Popular illustration software Clip Studio Paint announced this week that starting from version 2.0 it's going to be changing its business model, making subscriptions more prominent. Clip Studio Paint is popular between artists in great part due to its Comic/Illustration focused feature set and single-time purchase model, so the new model is being heavily criticized by the users. Celsys, company who makes the software, released the following image to illustrate their new business model:

    The new system would work the following way:
    Current license owners would receive features updates until the last update before the Ver. 2.0 release(H1 2023), and stability updates until the 3.0 release. Versions 1.X would continue to work.
    People who buy the Ver. 2.0 will have access only to stability updates, no feature updates at all.
    People who are already on the existing monthly subscription will have access to all updates.
    Anyone of the first 2 groups can subscribe to an annual Update Pass to get access to updates for one year, if the user doesn't renew the Update Pass the software would get downgraded to the last owned version.
     
    Quotes
     
    My thoughts
     Another software going towards subscription based monetization, I wouldn't be surprised if the intention is to go fully subscription based by the release of Ver. 3.0. The worst part of the announcement in my opinion is that Version 2.0 buyers won't receive any feature updates at all, effectively forcing users to get either an annual or monthly subscription to get access to feature updates in a software that will have been just released. Though people that just bought the software with the expectation they would continue to receive updates for some time, as the software has been getting updates for many years, getting suddenly told they will only receive a few months worth of updates if they don't buy the "Season Pass/DLC" is also pretty bad.
    I use Clip Studio, but wanted to move to Krita for some time due to the lack of Linux support on Clip Studio, this change make me look forward even more to Krita improvements and new features, so I can finally make the change without missing useful features. This model change might greatly increase Krita popularity as a FOSS alternative, at least as long Celsys doesn't backtrack on their decision. I'm guessing many will continue using the older 1.X versions for quite some time, but with Windows seemingly going back to getting new versions every 3 years, it might start to have issues with those new Windows versions, many others will probably look into PaintTool SAI, Krita and other alternatives.
     
    Sources
    https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/22/23316413/clip-studio-paint-subscription-plan-angry-artists-digital-illustration
    https://gizmodo.com/clip-studio-paint-celsys-photoshop-1849442803
    https://fossbytes.com/clip-studio-paint-adds-update-pass-and-upsets-its-users/
  25. Informative
    KaitouX got a reaction from Noah0302 in Popular Illustration Software "Clip Studio Paint" announces change to its single-time purchase model, going towards subscription based updates.   
    Summary
     
    Popular illustration software Clip Studio Paint announced this week that starting from version 2.0 it's going to be changing its business model, making subscriptions more prominent. Clip Studio Paint is popular between artists in great part due to its Comic/Illustration focused feature set and single-time purchase model, so the new model is being heavily criticized by the users. Celsys, company who makes the software, released the following image to illustrate their new business model:

    The new system would work the following way:
    Current license owners would receive features updates until the last update before the Ver. 2.0 release(H1 2023), and stability updates until the 3.0 release. Versions 1.X would continue to work.
    People who buy the Ver. 2.0 will have access only to stability updates, no feature updates at all.
    People who are already on the existing monthly subscription will have access to all updates.
    Anyone of the first 2 groups can subscribe to an annual Update Pass to get access to updates for one year, if the user doesn't renew the Update Pass the software would get downgraded to the last owned version.
     
    Quotes
     
    My thoughts
     Another software going towards subscription based monetization, I wouldn't be surprised if the intention is to go fully subscription based by the release of Ver. 3.0. The worst part of the announcement in my opinion is that Version 2.0 buyers won't receive any feature updates at all, effectively forcing users to get either an annual or monthly subscription to get access to feature updates in a software that will have been just released. Though people that just bought the software with the expectation they would continue to receive updates for some time, as the software has been getting updates for many years, getting suddenly told they will only receive a few months worth of updates if they don't buy the "Season Pass/DLC" is also pretty bad.
    I use Clip Studio, but wanted to move to Krita for some time due to the lack of Linux support on Clip Studio, this change make me look forward even more to Krita improvements and new features, so I can finally make the change without missing useful features. This model change might greatly increase Krita popularity as a FOSS alternative, at least as long Celsys doesn't backtrack on their decision. I'm guessing many will continue using the older 1.X versions for quite some time, but with Windows seemingly going back to getting new versions every 3 years, it might start to have issues with those new Windows versions, many others will probably look into PaintTool SAI, Krita and other alternatives.
     
    Sources
    https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/22/23316413/clip-studio-paint-subscription-plan-angry-artists-digital-illustration
    https://gizmodo.com/clip-studio-paint-celsys-photoshop-1849442803
    https://fossbytes.com/clip-studio-paint-adds-update-pass-and-upsets-its-users/
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