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  1. I would either go with the 13500 or skip to the 13600K. The slightly higher clocks on the 13600 won't make any noticeable difference compared to the 13500, but the 13600K Raptor Lake improvements + higher clocks can make a decent difference in some workloads.
  2. I have no idea what you were expecting, and also have no idea why people recommended an upgrade, because in most games the difference between the 13900K and the 12400F in 4K is about 10% while using a 4090. At 1440p a 13900K with DDR4 would be maybe 15% better than the 12400 on average while using the 4080. You don't. The best CPU+RAM combo in the market will net you maybe 15% more performance than your 13500+DDR4 at 1440P with the 4080, but that would cost about 700 euros, which is obviously not worth it. I would personally even consider returning the 13500 and saving the money for a future upgrade if you don't need the extra performance in non-gaming tasks and feels that the price you've paid isn't worth the small improvement in gaming. The 13500 is a great all-rounder CPU, but it's an incredibly small upgrade from the 12400 for gaming, no idea why people recommended it without even mentioning how tiny the improvement would be. Wait until you start to notice performance issues with you current CPU, then look for an upgrade. You probably shouldn't assume current AM5 motherboards will receive support beyond Zen 5, AMD didn't confirm anything regarding future CPU support on current motherboards. And I personally always recommend skipping at least one generation when upgrading, for non gaming use cases it can make sense, like if you wanted more multi-core performance and went from the 12400 to the 13600K, but for gaming I wouldn't do it unless it's necessary.
  3. I don't really see why get a 7800X3D if it isn't for 1080p with a 4090, so here's a significantly cheaper version of the build with the 13600KF, you could also do it with the 7700, but the Intel option is currently cheaper while being faster, the power consumption being higher shouldn't be an issue, as most of the time the difference will be at most 30~40W at games. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (€309.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€73.85 @ Azerty) Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 UD AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€224.00 @ Azerty) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€119.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€139.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€211.64 @ Amazon Netherlands) Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card (€383.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Compact ATX Mid Tower Case (€119.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€145.85 @ Azerty) Total: €1725.24 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-03 11:48 CEST+0200 I personally would rather wait for next gen to get any GPU above the 3060Ti/6750XT, almost everything above those is either extremely overpriced, power hungry or both. I added some extra storage, but how useful it is depends on personal preferences, so you could easily change the second SSD to another (maybe cheaper) 2tb one to save some money there.
  4. Yeah, but quality also isn't as good on HW encoder/decoders, even the best H265 HW encoder still looks like shit compared to x265 when comparing high quality videos encoded to similar filesizes. In general, for archival and higher quality playback software is better, for speed and low power consumption hardware is better.
  5. There are multiple AV1 CPU encoders(SVT-AV1, rav1e, aomenc, and others), it doesn't need any specific hardware. And as you said decode can also be done on the CPU. It can, but it might not be perfectly smooth depending on the video and player, passive cooling should be possible with a bigger cooler, smaller low profile ones might throttle it too much. As example my 12100F stays at roughly 35% utilization across all cores @~2.5GHz while playing a not so heavy AV1 video(4K, avg bitrate 18.8mb/s, 23.976FPS) using VLC, mpv stays at a lower clock of ~2.1GHz but slightly higher utilization around 42%. It probably would drop frames quite a bit. I believe Intel added AV1 decoding on 11th gen, so no HW decode on these older CPUs.
  6. 13400F is a locked 12600K both have 6 P-cores and 4 E-cores 13500 has 6 P-cores and 8 E-cores The 13400F performs roughly the same as the 5700X in multi-core workloads, while the 12600K is about 20% faster. Single-core the 13400F is 15~20% faster than the 5700X, the 12600K is 5% faster than the 13400F. In gaming the 13400F is like 5% faster than the 5700X while the 12600K is another 5% faster than the 13400F. The 13500 is equivalent to the 12600K in Single-core, 20% faster in multi core and about 5% slower in gaming. If the performance difference is worth the price difference, it depends. Gaming, as in using a 4090 at 1080p, realistically there's no difference between any of the CPUs on average.
  7. Last week I got one asking to select the squirrels, but there was no squirrels on the options, the closest thing to a squirrel looked like a scuffed beaver. I kept selecting that and after a few tries it let me through.
  8. Important to note that some games in some resolutions can be affected way more than the average, and that lacking VRAM can make the lack of bandwidth a lot more visible. As example here's a few graphs on an older TechSpot/HUB test on the 5500XT. Many of the games tested show no difference(check the link for those), but some of them have pretty significant drops in framerate from using PCIe 4.0 x4 while VRAM limited like the ones in these graphs. https://www.techspot.com/review/2396-pcie-bandwidth-test/ Other examples can be found on the 6600XT PCIe Scaling test on TPU, again most games aren't affected or barely, but some show big differences.
  9. I'm pretty sure my XZ1 already had PS4 remote play and supported the DS4 controller, and I bought that like 5 years ago, so i would assume their new phones would support the Dualsense controller, but maybe I'm wrong. I guess that if they sell this for something like $100 it might be a nice accessory for PS5 owners, for more than that I don't see why someone would get it over a android tablet or Steam Deck and just use remote play on those devices.
  10. Nvidia actually selling the 4050 as 4060Ti lol. There's absolutely no way a GPU with 8GB of GDDR6, 128bit bus and x8 slot should be selling for $400 as a 4060Ti. Those specs are identical to the 3050. Also wtf is Nvidia planning to do with the 4060? It could actually manage to be slower than the 3060 while also having less memory looking at the specs. The lower power consumption is nice, but Ampere was really badly optimized in that front, that even a simple power limit drop could achieve huge improvements in efficiency.
  11. Yes. i3 12100F on B660 board. I can change both PL1 and PL2, just set those values as example.
  12. I don't know where you're, but I don't know of any country where importing that from Aliexpress would cost more than $20 for everything. The customs on most countries don't even bother taxing small cheap items like that. The bending issue doesn't seem to have any significant effect on most users, I would only consider it if I had issues after testing the CPU. I personally don't have issues with mine, and I don't care for the slightly improvement that I could maybe get with one. But at the same time I power limit all my CPUs to make them more efficient, so I'm not really affected by temperature issues in the first place.
  13. You can get the Thermalright one from Aliexpress for $10. You probably don't need neither though.
  14. Power limit it to ~180W, it should perform pretty close to stock while greatly reducing power consumption and consequently temperatures in heavy all-core workloads. ComputerBase test shows that their 13700K achieved 90% of stock performance at 142W at CB R23, so 180~190W should be around 5% slower than stock. Also please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't B760 locked from manual undervolting?
  15. I wouldn't go with the 2700 at this point, if you want something cheaper I would look into the 12100 which performs similarly in multithread applications while being significantly better in gaming and singlethread. And make sure to check the prices for the 12400 and 13100, some locations might have good prices for them.
  16. My experience with the G600 and other mice: I had a G600 and really liked it, the buttons are really handy and helped a lot, but after some time, i believe 2 years or so, 2 side buttons started to fail some times, few months after that 3 buttons didn't work at all and one other failed some times, shortly after the scroll click stopped working, Logitech refused my warranty because I bought it in another country, so I just got a cheap G302 that was on sale for $15. The G302 scroll click stopped working after 2 years or so of use and the left click started to fail some time after, so I just started avoiding Logitech. Currently using a rebranded Fantech Helios XD3 V2 that I got for $35, this time around I will probably fix it myself if some switch start to fail.
  17. The 7700 and 7900 aren't bad, but the 13600KF and 13700KF are better and cheaper. Buying DDR5 now to future proof is like if you bought DDR4-2666 for Skylake, It isn't future proofing, it's just overpaying for what is going to be slow memory after few years. If you go DDR5 it should be for the current benefits.
  18. With DDR4: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (€319.90 @ Alza) CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler (€74.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) Motherboard: Gigabyte B660 GAMING X DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€146.90 @ Alza) Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€82.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Kingston KC3000 1.024 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€88.90 @ Alza) Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card (€687.10 @ Mindfactory) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (€94.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€128.24 @ Amazon Deutschland) Total: €1623.91 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-09 14:12 CET+0100 You could change the RAM to a second kit identical to the one you already own, as long as your current kit isn't slow. With DDR5: PCPartPicker Part List Motherboard: ASRock B760M PG SONIC WiFi Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€180.08 @ Mindfactory) Memory: Patriot Viper Black 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€169.89 @ Alternate) Total: €1742.30 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-09 14:04 CET+0100 DDR5 is faster in some games while being basically the same in most. You can also change the motherboard to a Z690/Z790 if you want to overclock.
  19. While there are exceptions like Fortnite, most apps that try to become exclusives to 3rd party stores just lose users. It isn't really a problem on Android, so I'm not sure why you would assume it would become one on iOS. I personally use a 3rd party store in my phone mostly to bypass region blocking, but other people around me seems to never use anything other than the Play Store in their phones. He uses Meta as an example, but Amazon and others tried it on Android and barely could make a dent into Play Store market share.
  20. When you consider that the case is often dark, and the GPU backplate might be a bit over 2mm longer than the socket, it doesn't seem that weird that some people ended up with bad connections. This connection probably would look fine when looked from above inside a case. Also due to the locking system being bad, a small <1mm gap can become much larger when you are moving the cable around to close the case. This just looks like a bad design in many different ways.
  21. Higher nits mean the monitor can get brighter. Proper sRGB support means the monitor won't look oversaturated, as most content is based around the sRGB color space. Adobe RGB support means the monitor can display a higher range of colors, DCI-P3 is basically the same thing, just a different range of colors.
  22. From Nvidia side all GPUs below the 3070 are around MSRP or lower, and the 3080 and above can be found at MSRP if you wait for the restocks, as old stock is pretty overpriced, probably because shops overpaid for them and aren't willing to take the losses. AMD is a pretty good option currently for gaming, so not sure why you act like they aren't. The 6900XT is around $650 and it performs better than the 3080 at anything that isn't AI/RT related, the 6800 has options below $500, and there's one 6800XT model for $535.
  23. Considering that it's 70% more expensive than the 2 year old predecessor, and only 50% faster, It's pretty shit. Any new GPU that is worse value than the old ones is shit for me. The current market isn't what it was 1 year ago. GPUs are mostly below their original MSRP, and in AMD case well below it, with the 6900XT going for as low as $650 while being pretty close to the 3090 gaming performance wise. The 4080, together with the 4090 are some of the worst value GPUs you can get currently only being slightly better than some of the cash grabs Nvidia launched during the GPU shortage. I didn't look that much, but I have yet to see any shop where you would have a hard time getting one. I've seen claims that physical shops are full of 4080 with no interest from consumers, including a few photos/videos from Microcenter that show loads of GPUs(4080 specifically) with no one picking them.
  24. Unless you're going to run it at full load, with Blender CPU rendering, video encoding/rendering, or similar, it's not going to be anywhere near 100C, if you're going to use at full load and the temperatures you get bother you, you should try lowering the power limits, in the ComputerBase test the 13600K limited 125W is only ~5% slower than stock in heavy all-core loads. With that said the CPU can probably run for way longer than it's useful lifetime at 100C.
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