So a couple of weeks ago I sent out a…

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So a couple of weeks ago I sent out an application (or resume what ever you wanna call it) for an apprenticeship as an Electrican to a local Electrician business thing and I got invited to a 4 day practiceship/work experience. It actually takes me excactly 17 minutes with my Xiaomi Mi Pro Electric Scooter for one way from my House to the business in the neighbouring Town, I already did that whole go and drive to the thing and have a look where I will have to go thing two weeks ago so that's all sorted. So that apprenticeship would be 4 years long, as most of them are, so that would mean if that would actually work out and I start that in August this year then I would be finished with that in 2024 and I would be 21 when I finish in summer and then turn 22 that following October.

And the payout is pretty good too, imo:

So first year: Per month: 600 CHF or 7200 CHF in total
Second year: Per month 750 CHF or 9000 CHF in total
Third year: Per month: 950 CHF or 11400 CHF in total
And finally the fourth year: Per month: 1100 CHF or 13200 in total

So that'll be a total of 40800 CHF in those 4 years, that's bare minimum, without any bonuses and with out spending anything of course. Just plain cash.

@sub68 Then I can buy all the Tech and Tools I want

My Dad actually also did an apprenticeship as an Electrician that's similar to this one, so he'd sure be proud of me. Plus he knows a couple of guys at the company already since they work as contractors on a usual basis in the company he works for.

Yeah jumping straight in and getting an apprenticeship as a System Engineer or Software Developer just didn't work out so this really is my last last chance for this year as all of the other bastards whom I've been sending my applications to haven't even answered that they got it and stuff. Man, just getting into the whole job market itself is plain cancer and difficult as fuck, don't wanna imagine how it is gonna be once I'm in it.

Fun Fact: This was my 99th application actually, ehh and I'm completely tired of this whole process like I've been on it for 2 and a half years now.

So yeah once that's done the Military is gonna come knocking on your Door of course ! So as being a male and a Swiss Citizen and us still having the Conscription in place they're gonna send out some letters to every native Swiss Male at the age of 16/17 and to every foreigners who just got the Swiss Citizen Ship, yeah that's right if you're male and between the age of 15 and 26 DON'T try to move to Switzerland (I mean you can still move to Switzerland and get the C Visa thing but hold off and wait till your over 26 if you explicitly want to become a Swiss Citizen for some reason) and apply for a Swiss Citizen ship because otherwise they're gonna draft you for military service and as being one of the last countries in the world where it's obligatory to do military service you don't wanna do that, with clear instructions. So I got my first letter from them about a year ago, just having to fill out a couple of forms for them to collect all the necessary data about me. And the second one came in a couple of days ago, it's an straight up invite to an informational day on the 31st of August this year. So will have to get all of that filled out and get a copy of my Eyesight test and receipe thing of the glasses (because they wanna know all of the health details and ask literally everything regarding to that) and also a copy of the Apprenticeship contract thing should that work out. Because obviously you gotta do either an Apprenticeship first or have gone to college and then to uni in order for them to draft you into Military Service.

So yeah after that Informational day there will be a another couple of event day things where I have to go to and then they'll do a whole bunch of fitness and psychological tests to see if I would be suitable for service. So yeah if I pass that which I most likely will if I don't get a serious illness or break all of my bones in an accident (never know what's gonna happen in a few years amiright) then I'd like to do my whole Service back to back which would excactly be one year and that'll be called "Durchdiener": "Durch" means through or full and "diener" means servant aka just soldier. Instead of doing the tradiontinal WK model which is 18 (up to 21 weeks if you choose to go with the special forces such as the Grenadier or Infantry) weeks of basic and specific training in your assigned Troop type and then every 4 years there's two weeks of rehearsal millitary training till you're 40 or something. So if I would go with the WK model then you're assigned as Back Up in your specific troop till your 45 years old, this is if War breaks out or there's extreme political instability in the country or a Natural Disaster happens then they can just call you right into Service even if your long done with your Service and have given back all of your stuff. VS. if I would go with the "Durchdiener" model then I would only be on the back up list till 3-4 years after I fulfilled my Service which if this plans out will be at the age of 28.

If I can do the "Durchdiener" model then the minimum payout for that year if you don't rank up is 20'000 CHF. Good thing everything is free of course including public Transport and they'll cover the Health Insurance for the whole Service, for the Travel to the assigned Millitary Base and on Holiday, with Holiday they mean the weekends of course and you've got like a couple of days that you can take of if you apply for it, for instance if there are special family events, or you're graduating from a school or something.

So just to be clear if I could choose and wouldn't live in a Country where military service is mandatory then I totally wouldn't do it of course. But hey at least I get to receive some really in depth weapons and tactical training, you know something for my Gamer Heart.

If you wanna know more and do your own digging, the first four Websites aren't natively translated into English so hope your Google Translate does that for you:

Also they have a YouTube Channel if you wanna see some cringey videos:

https://www.youtube.com/user/schweizerarmee/featured

Most of the videos are also in French, Italian and English besides German or just turn on subtitles.

Just felt like letting you guys know too what's happening in my live

July 2, 2020

dizmo

You can live off of $9k a year?

July 2, 2020
Meganter

That's some good planification of your life

I still wonder why Swiss has a military service

July 2, 2020
Void Master

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So a couple of weeks ago I sent out an application (or resume what ever you wanna call it) for an apprenticeship as an Electrican to a local Electrician business thing and I got invited to a 4 day practiceship/work experience.

@Pascal... Reminds me of myself when i was 15, my dad helped me take a job at his friend's workshop. They used to build PCs and sell them, and they used to have lots of old PCs in the basement. (stacks of cases and laptops, some had problems, others were perfectly fine but no longer any usable) It was basically heaven for me, and it contributed positively to my experience. I used to assemble and disassemble those old PCs all day. And when i proved myself to my boss, i felt that i was above the clouds as i started building modern PCs (at that time) with his team . He then introduced me to a lot of people in high places (his workshop was the only way to get a PC in the city and nearby towns, so he became extremely successful and popular) and from there i got introduced to a guy that works at Intel, who directed me towards my dreams. So what i say to you: good job, working as a teenager for something you like is an amazing experience and also EXTREMELY valuable. Good luck, take care, and plz don't electrocute yourself. You will get tired, and you won't get payed as an adult. But it's all about the experience, with hard work you can destroy all the obstacles that life throws in your way.
July 2, 2020
soldier_ph

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soldier_ph

@dizmo I obviously still live at Home and I only have to pay for my own Tech and Gadgets and then taxes, everything else gets paid for.

@Meganter Well Switzerland has always had an army of some sort since it's founding back in 1291. Modern day Switzerland so as it is today was established in 1848 after a big Revolution. Since then we always stayed Neutral, we had a lot of luck in both World Wars to not get invaded. We joined the UNO in 2002 but still refuse to this day to join the European Union and the Nato. But we do of course work together with the European Union and Switzerland has diplomatic missions to pretty much every Country in the World, even North Korea. Remember being a Country in Europe doesn't mean you're automatically in the European Union, those are two separate things. We mainly need an army to maintain our long going Neutrality and to defend ourselves should it come it. The Swiss army is also used in the event of natural disasters, large events such as the Swiss Wrestling Festival to help civil organizers build and maintain facilities. Every year from February 18th to the 21st the WEF (World Economic Forum) takes place in Davos. The Army is deployed to support local police corps and security services to secure and protect buildings, critical assets, VIPs, presidents, and other guests at the event. The Air Force is responsible for the surveillance and protection of Swiss airspace. Should an aircraft enter Swiss airspace and it has not contacted and registered with the Swiss Skyguide and the towers of the airports and they cannot establish radio contact with the aircraft, then it must be possible for two FA-18 interceptors to track down the aircraft and establish visual and verball contact with the Pilots of the aircraft in no time. In most cases where two interceptors have to escort a plane either to the nearest airport or out of the country, it only is due to them having radio problems. The army is also regularly deployed at borders and airports to help the Border Force and security services search and inspect people, vehicles and luggage. The last official deployment by the army was just finished: the medicine and logistics battalions were used to support the fight against corona in hospitals and caring centers. In addition, other troops, including the military police themselves, were called up to close the borders and again to help the local Border Force at the borders to check people for possible simpotme for corona. The army has several special units that can be used very quickly in the event of conflicts or a terrorist attack to support the civilian blue light organizations. They also have departments at the Swiss Intelegience Service (SNB) aka our verion of the CIA and FBI and their own cyber command to prevent hackers and DDods attacks on large Swiss companies, institutes, universities and federal infrastructures. Plus Switzerland has multiple Peace keeping programms and operations in Europe, North Africa and the middle east.

@Void Master Wow how cool. Thanks for the encouragement.

Videos to watch:
July 2, 2020
Meganter

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dizmo

Not sure why you think it's obvious. It's not. I moved out when I was younger than you.
July 2, 2020
soldier_ph

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Meganter

Well it has the same fonctions as our army and the same effective as ours

Good Luck with all that !
July 3, 2020
soldier_ph

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